
14 Simone Surgeoner | Loss of Significant Men
10/10/22 • 44 min
Today Simone and I talk about losing the most significant men in her life. She dealt with the loss of her life partner through cancer, the sudden death of her father, and the dissolution of two marriages. After all these losses she investigated into the masculine, and she found an appreciation for the male aspect in her life and in herself.
She describes the experience of grief’s intensity in the following way:
‘The pain and intensity of it has not lessened in those moments. Yes, there are fewer and further between, but ... it's okay now because I know that it comes up like a huge wave and it feels so overwhelming in the moment, but I know that it's going to leave now so it doesn't topple me over. But I'm still always quite... It's almost like impressed with that level of grief does not abate when it comes up.’
About this week’s guest
Simone Surgeoner is a therapist and mentor who has helped thousands of people find their own authentic path in life. She enjoys nothing more than exploring the depths of what it means to be human. Using herself as her own guinea pig, Simone demonstrates beingness as arising from integrity with one’s essence. Helping people find their inner truth, through their own direct experience, is the core of Simone’s work.
Simone’s website: www.saksana.com.au
Topics discussed in this episode
- Loss of life partner
- Loss of her father
- Loss of relationships, divorce
- Loss of a lifestyle, home, relationships, values, dreams, identity, religion
- Supporting children who lost their father
- Child’s experience of grief
- Giving herself a full year of grief
Resources mentioned in this episode
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Today Simone and I talk about losing the most significant men in her life. She dealt with the loss of her life partner through cancer, the sudden death of her father, and the dissolution of two marriages. After all these losses she investigated into the masculine, and she found an appreciation for the male aspect in her life and in herself.
She describes the experience of grief’s intensity in the following way:
‘The pain and intensity of it has not lessened in those moments. Yes, there are fewer and further between, but ... it's okay now because I know that it comes up like a huge wave and it feels so overwhelming in the moment, but I know that it's going to leave now so it doesn't topple me over. But I'm still always quite... It's almost like impressed with that level of grief does not abate when it comes up.’
About this week’s guest
Simone Surgeoner is a therapist and mentor who has helped thousands of people find their own authentic path in life. She enjoys nothing more than exploring the depths of what it means to be human. Using herself as her own guinea pig, Simone demonstrates beingness as arising from integrity with one’s essence. Helping people find their inner truth, through their own direct experience, is the core of Simone’s work.
Simone’s website: www.saksana.com.au
Topics discussed in this episode
- Loss of life partner
- Loss of her father
- Loss of relationships, divorce
- Loss of a lifestyle, home, relationships, values, dreams, identity, religion
- Supporting children who lost their father
- Child’s experience of grief
- Giving herself a full year of grief
Resources mentioned in this episode
Links
--> For more information, please visit Nathalie’s website.
--> Subscribe to the newsletter to receive updates on future episodes here.
--> Join the podcast’s Instagram page.
Thanks for listening to HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA. If you’d like to be updated on future episodes, please subscribe to my newsletter on Nathalie Himmelrich.com
If you need grief support, please contact me for a FREE 30 min discovery session.
HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA is produced and edited by me, Nathalie Himmelrich.
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13 Sharon Ehlers | Dealing With Suicide
Today Sharon Ehlers and I dive into the topic of loss by suicide. We both share how we dealt with losing close people who took their own lives.
Sharon has lost multiple people in her life, two of which died by suicide. She shares so generously about all the tools and resources she found along her way that helped her deal with the losses after she realized that she wasn’t coping at all with the first loss of her best friend Joy. Attending to her grief and learning about death opened things for Sharon she wouldn’t want to miss and she says:
‘The one thing that has changed that I wouldn’t want to miss is the fact of finding what feeds your soul. Certainly, as an intellectual person, it's been about work all of my life and achieving to the point of craziness. And so now it's like, what feeds your soul, and, in many cases, it may not be what you currently do. It may not be your work, maybe something else. And finding that is important.’
About this week’s guest
Sharon Ehlers’ grief and trauma journey began when her best friend as well as her former fiancé both died by suicide within two years of each other. Then her beloved Dad died unexpectedly from a fall.
Read the full bio in the show notes...
Sharon's books:
Grief Reiki® - An Integrated Approach to the Emotional, Physical and Spiritual Components of Grief and Loss
Grief Diaries: Surviving Loss by Suicide
Sharon’s Website: www.grief-reiki.com
Topics discussed in this episode
- Suicide: Sharon’s best friend Joy and ex-partner John both died by suicide
- The death of Sharon’s father
- Dealing with the topic of suicide and the grief and trauma following a suicide
- Trying to understand suicide and depression
- ‘How did it happen?’ - the repercussions of this question
Resources mentioned in this episode
- Grief Education Program: The Grief Recovery Method
- Death Midwife Program: Sacred Crossings
- Learn More About Reiki: International Association of Reiki Practitioners
- Medical Reiki: Medical Reiki International
- Suicide Loss Support Group: Didi Hirsch Suicide Prevention & Counseling (Los Angeles)
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15 Amie Lands | Child Loss, Cancer and Life’s Trauma
Today I speak with Amie where she shares how her life started with the loss of connection to her father due to mental illness and the challenging relationship with her alcoholic mother.
Amie then became pregnant for the first time, but her daughter Ruthie died after 33 days.
At 36 years, Amie was diagnosed with neck cancer which was successfully treated. She then shares how they moved across the States and their truck caught fire with many of their belongings including Ruthie’s memories gone.
Dealing with all those extreme situations, Amie learned and practiced one thing:
‘I live in this moment. I try not to think too much ahead of what's to come next or what so many call future tripping. I don't put myself in what could happen and so I really truly live today. I have a calendar and plan ahead, but I really just try and be in this moment.’
About this week’s guest
Amie Lands is the author of Navigating the Unknown, Our Only Time, Perfectly Imperfect Family, and the Tending to Your Heart series. She is a cancer survivor, founder of The Ruthie Lou Foundation, and a Certified Grief Recovery Specialist®. Since her daughter’s brief life, Amie’s passion is offering hope and providing support to bereaved families. Amie lives in South Carolina, United States with her husband and their two sons.
Amie’s website: www.amielandsauthor.com
Instagram: @amielandsauthor
Topics discussed in this episode
- Early loss of her father through mental illness
- Early child loss and pregnancy after loss
- A neck cancer diagnosis at the age of 36
- Moving across the States and a fire that destroyed many personal belongings
- How to love somebody that isn’t part of your life
- Learning to ask for help
Resources mentioned in this episode
- The Me You Can’t See (show on mental illness, Apple TV)
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