Hospitality Hangout

In today’s episode of the Hospitality Hangout, Michael Schatzberg, “The Restaurant Guy”, and Jimmy Frischling, “The Finance Guy”, are joined by 5-time returning guest Josh Halpern, founder and CEO of Big Chicken and Beer Park.

Josh narrates how he began his business and how the relationships he has fostered with shareholders like Dr. Shaquille O’Neal has become invaluable. He also delves into what it is like to own a franchise, walks us through the mindset needed to run one, and uncovers the often forgotten demographics businesses must consider serving in pursuit of success. describes what it takes to bridge the gap between coworkers from multiple generations.

Key Takeaways:

• Breaking News: Josh Halpern’s business Big Chicken goes global with its first international location opening in the United Kingdom. Having started originally in Seattle, when Co-Op Live, Europe’s largest live music venue, opens this year, Big Chicken will be revealed. Josh shares that Big Chicken will be introduced to Canada in a similar fashion later this year. On top of this, Big Chicken will be expanding to parts of Central America where brick-and-mortar restaurants are already being built.
• Market Growth Strategy: Josh opens up about his strategic plan to expand globally and his mindset behind it. When franchising a business, Halpern says, you are not simply in the restaurant business, but also the franchise business. From the time he first dreamt of this idea to now global expansion, Josh has always made it known his sole business objective is a maniacal focus, meaning they are constantly optimizing their product and business model.
• Developing Relationships: The business relationship and friendship Josh has developed with Dr. O’Neal is one he deeply charishes and appreciates. Josh stresses the importance of finding sponsors that identify with your brand the same way Shaquille O’Neal resonated with Big Chicken, being reminded of his mother’s cooking when he was a child.
• Do Fathers Ever Get to Choose? Sit back and enjoy listening to Jimmy, Schatz, and Josh discuss who gets to pick where to eat out and why it’s never the father.
• Michael Schatzberg never fails to make guests of the podcast laugh with his playful nature and quick wit and today is no different. Enjoy as Jimmy lets him narrate Josh and his road to success with plenty of repartee to go around.
• You came for the entree, but stay to indulge in the best dessert the show can offer as Jimmy Frischling, “The Finance Guy”, quizzes Michael Schatzberg, “The Restaurant Guy”, in today’s episode of Trivia Tuesday.

In this episode of Hospitality Hangout, Michael Schatzberg, “The Restaurant Guy,” and Jimmy Frischling, “The Finance Guy,” dive into an engaging conversation with guest Greg Flynn, founder, chairman, and CEO of the Flynn Group and Flynn Properties.

Pull up a chair and grab a napkin as Greg serves a hearty helping of inspiration. Greg shares his pursuit in the hospitality industry, his insights on various market segments, and his experiences with different aspects of the business, including restaurant operations, real estate investments, and the expansion into fitness centers. From flipping burgers at McDonald's to running the show as the head honcho of the world's largest franchise operation, Greg's journey is a real-life recipe for success, highlighting the key ingredients of operational excellence, a dash of strategic diversification, and a generous portion of adapting to ever-changing market trends. So, sit back and enjoy this conversation that's sure to leave you hungry for more knowledge in the dynamic world of hospitality.

Key Takeaways:

• Greg leads the largest franchise operation globally, managing over 2,600 units across several iconic brands, including Applebee’s, Taco Bell, Panera, Arby’s, Pizza Hut, Wendy’s, and Planet Fitness. This massive scale and diversity in operations are unparalleled in the industry.
• The Flynn Group’s emphasis on operational excellence is reflected in their numerous accolades, such as being named Pizza Hut's Franchisee of the Year and Applebee's Franchisee of the Year multiple times. Achieving these recognitions, especially as the largest franchisee, underscores their commitment to high standards and quality management.
• The Flynn Group’s strategic pivot into the fitness industry with Planet Fitness is a notable diversification move. This expansion beyond traditional restaurant operations into adjacent consumer-facing businesses showcases Flynn’s innovative approach and adaptability in identifying and capitalizing on new market opportunities. Greg jokes about the Flynn Group's expansion into Planet Fitness as "vertical integration" – feeding customers at their restaurants and then slimming them down at their gyms.
• The unique aspects of Flynn Properties illustrate Greg exceptional ability to diversify, innovate, and adapt in the dynamic fields of real estate and hospitality.
• Greg offers a golden nugget of advice for aspiring operators and franchisees, “be an operator” first and foremost. In a highly competitive industry, excellence in hospitality trumps all. He emphasizes that it's not about the finance or buying assets but about being exceptionally good at running the operations. His perspective underscores that even with perfect timing and other strategies in place, the core of success lies in mastering the day-to-day operations and delivering unparalleled service. This advice from a proven industry leader highlights the essential focus on operational excellence as the key to thriving in the hospitality sector.

Savor the flavor of engaging segments like "What’s Hot and Not," a Quickfire Round that's sure to add some zest, and the pièce de résistance, Trivia Tuesday.

In the latest episode of "Hospitality Hangout", industry insiders are treated to an enlightening conversation as hosts Michael Schatzberg, fondly known as "The Restaurant Guy", and Jimmy Frischling, dubbed "The Finance Guy", sit down with G.J. Hart. Currently at the helm of Red Robin as President, CEO, and Director, Hart's journey from the Netherlands to leading a renowned American food brand is nothing short of inspiring.

G.J. Hart: From Immigrant Dreams to Restaurant Reality

Arriving in the U.S. in 1963 with dreams of freedom, Hart's initial foray into the hospitality industry was with Howard Johnson's, toggling roles from a dishwasher to a short-order cook. His professional odyssey then took a detour into the poultry business, helping fund his college education. A move to New Orleans saw Hart working under Al Copeland of Popeye's fame, subsequently partnering with Texas Roadhouse's founder, which they took public.

Though Hart dabbled in the idea of retirement, his passion was unwavering. Drawn back to the restaurant cosmos, he took the reins at Red Robin, a brand he had admired for decades.

Revitalizing a Legacy: The North Star Comeback Plan

For over half a century, Red Robin has remained etched in the minds of patrons for its family-centric aura, captivating ambiance, and mouth-watering meals at fair prices. Under Hart's stewardship, the "North Star Comeback Plan" was birthed, aiming to rejuvenate the brand by emphasizing its time-honored attributes. In a span of just 12 months, Red Robin, with Hart's vision and a spirited team, witnessed commendable growth and resurgence.

Leadership: A Game of Authenticity

Hart, with his rich tapestry of experiences, extols the virtue of authenticity in leadership. He advocates for genuine concern for staff and believes that constructing a robust team in a conducive environment is pivotal. This episode offers listeners an intimate look into Hart's life, his strategic leadership methods, the essence of brand identity, and most importantly, his dream for Red Robin's future.

The Core: People and Food

Despite the tsunami of tech advancements swamping the restaurant industry, Hart, along with Schatzberg and Frischling, concurs that the core of the business is, and should always be, about people and the food. While technology acts as a facilitator, enhancing the guest experience, the culinary journey must remain at the forefront.

A Personal Touch to the Conversation

Rounding off the episode, in a jovial segment, Hart turns the tables by posing a personal question to the hosts, revealing their camaraderie and offering listeners a glimpse into their dynamic rapport.

In essence, this episode of "Hospitality Hangout" is a testament to the fact that while the restaurant landscape is continuously evolving with tech innovations, the heart and soul remain in the people and the dishes they serve.

Tune in to "Hospitality Hangout" for this and more episodes, as it continues to engage, enlighten, and entertain those in the hospitality and foodservice sector.

In this episode of Hospitality Hangout, Michael Schatzberg, “The Restaurant Guy,” and Jimmy Frischling, “The Finance Guy,” sit down with second-time guest Sam Bakhshandehpour, CEO of José Andrés Group.

Sam started his career as a financial analyst, working with major banks such as Deutsche Bank, JP Morgan, UBS, and Bear Stearns, and has a background in real estate. He transitioned into the hospitality industry, starting with the SLS Hotel and later partnering with José Andrés through Silverstone and the Bazaar brand. His experience includes successfully integrating nightlife, dining, and hotel services to create a comprehensive guest experience. By combining his financial expertise, hospitality experience, and strategic vision, Sam has successfully guided the José Andrés Group to new heights, ensuring the brand's continued growth and excellence in the industry.

Key Takeaways:

• Breaking News: The José Andrés Group (JAG) is expanding its presence in the hospitality industry.
• The concept of "activating the whole hotel box" involves creating a holistic experience for guests, integrating lodging, dining, and entertainment. Sam emphasizes the "trifecta" for creating a successful hospitality experience. This model ensures guests have an all-encompassing experience, leading to higher guest satisfaction and increased revenue.
• The Bazaar Hotel brand draws from the successful SLS Hotel concept, where the restaurant and hotel experiences are intertwined.
• Sam mentions that implementing this model has led to one of the highest-grossing restaurants in Manhattan and top room rates in the city.
• Impact on the Brand: Sam discusses the strategic expansion of José Andrés Group into the media space, leveraging content to drive engagement and business growth across their restaurants and products. The brand's storytelling capabilities create engaging and informative media that promote the brand’s restaurants and products.
• Is there potential for career growth in hospitality? The importance of mentorship and the value of diverse experiences within the industry.
• José Andrés Group emphasizes purpose-driven work, exemplified by World Central Kitchen’s humanitarian efforts.
• Sam's principle that "hospitality is a responsibility" emphasizes treating guests with respect and ensuring they have a great experience, and the mutual efforts required from both staff and guests to create exceptional experiences.
• Talking Back: The hosts discuss the importance of leadership, team culture, consistency, and strategic growth in maintaining quality as a restaurant brand expands globally.

Enjoy the dynamic interaction between guest and hosts as Sam plays "What’s Hot and Not," rating QR code ordering, virtual kitchens, and all-day breakfast, and other entertaining games like "Branded Quick Fire," "Name That Recipe," and "Trivia Tuesday."

This month on Hospitality Hangout, Michael Schatzberg “The Restaurant Guy” and Jimmy Frischling “The Finance Guy” are taking a break from their usual interview episodes and bringing you a Best Of season of all your favorite segments. They bring back “Best Of” old favorites such as “Top of the Tech Stack” and “The Branded Quickfire.”
In this episode they feature a Best Of Talking Back with special guest and Co Founder & CEO at Chowly, Inc., Sterling Douglass. When Schatzberg and Frischling started Hospitality Hangout podcast to talk to people in the industry, they quickly learned that their guests had questions for them as well. They created Talking Back to give their guests the opportunity to ask them questions.
This episode shares several great questions from many industry leaders. David Bloom, Chief Development and Operating officer at Capriotti’s and Wing Zone had a three part question. He asked, “What are you the most excited about for the future of tech?” Frischling answered he was most excited and loves the optionality and the large “menu” of tech available to operators. Bloom also asked, “What is the biggest lever a brand can pull to position themselves ahead of the curve?” Frischling said that the biggest lever would be to leverage AI and automation to address the issue of labor shortage and that he’s interested in a combination of data and analytics dominated decision making.
Marty Hahnfeld, Chief Customer Officer at Olo was a guest on season 4 and he asked, “What is one thing that is a normal part of the restaurant experience today that will be gone in 5 years?” Schatzberg answered, Handwriting menus and written reservation books will be a thing of the past. Everything will be done on mobile. Also the idea of walking into a McDonalds and an employee asking what you would like, that will become fully automated.
When Anand Gala, Managing Partner at Gala Capital Partners asked, “What does Branded think about restaurant companies buying tech companies?” Frischling believes no one size fits all and that there are opportunities for restauranteurs to be good investors in tech companies, as well as good clients in tech companies. It depends on the company goals. Schatzberg said being a good customer is key, but maybe as a defensive measure, a restaurant could invest in a company to stop it from going exclusively to a competitor.
To hear Dan Rowe, CEO of Fransmart ask about trends, CEO of Piestro, Massimo Noja De Marco’s question about helping smaller operators and Steven Elinson, Head of Worldwide Business Development, Restaurant, Catering and Food Service Industries for Amazon Web Services ask about opening a new restaurant during the pandemic plus get the guy’s answers, check out this best of episode on Hospitality Hangout.