In this episode, we take a closer look at the complex concepts of gods and worship. We start by defining God and then discuss how historical figures, like George Washington, have been worshipped in certain situations. We also explore the historical practice of deification, focusing on the worship of emperors and monarchs.
Moving on, we discuss divine intervention in American history and how historical figures are sometimes treated like deities. Our perspectives on worship highlight its submissive nature and stress the importance of having a real connection to a deity or hero.
We touch on monotheism and the challenges it poses, examining the history of religious leaders being treated as gods. Lastly, we explore various gods and entities, including the portrayal of ancient gods in modern times, and discuss the potential problems associated with excessive or harmful worship practices.
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Katie Dooley 00:11
Alright, welcome to the next episode of The Holy watermelon podcast. Preston, what are we talking about today? Because it's all you,
Preston Meyer 00:21
we are talking about what is it God? And without looking at our show notes, what do you How would you describe or define a god?
Katie Dooley 00:30
Oh, no. I would describe a god as an invisible being that controls our lives. So pretty strong Yes. Yes, that has some sort of control over the outcomes of things, life. Stuff we pray for and asked to happen. Okay, outcomes of the Superbowl and whether we're gonna get a rain for harvest. Okay.
Preston Meyer 01:12
But it has to be invisible. Does it have to be here?
Katie Dooley 01:17
No, it definitely doesn't have to be here. But that's just the feminist in me. And I don't know of any visible Gods unless we're talking about
Preston Meyer 01:28
idols. What about George Washington? I
Katie Dooley 01:31
wouldn't consider him because
Preston Meyer 01:35
believe it or not a lot of people do.
Katie Dooley 01:40
Oh, wasn't his slave owner?
Preston Meyer 01:43
He was a slave owner. That's okay. Yeah, absolutely. Back in a time when that was the economic norm. If you had any sort of power at all, you definitely own somebody.
Katie Dooley 01:57
I mean, back in
Preston Meyer 01:58
those days, that's the way it was still on people. Right? I mean, you can get a slave from Africa for 400 bucks. cheaper if you, you know, hunt around a little better than the average person grows. We don't condone slavery, no, slavery is bad. Owning another person treating them as property instead of a person is definitely not okay. And there's a reason it's not normal anymore. But it used to be. And that sucks. But absolutely, George Washington is worshipped as a god, if you go to Washington, DC, there's this huge painting. And I wish I can remember the the name of the building it's in. There's somebody out there who'd be happy to share that information of the deification is huge painting of George Washington becoming a god. And there's a shrine in Hawaii of all places, that has a portion of it dedicated to George Washington. It's also very close to a nearly identical shrine for Abraham Lincoln, who was also worshipped as a god. It does not seem weird.
Katie Dooley 03:10
It does. It sounds like anyone or anything could be a god. And I know. For poor listeners, the next few episodes are going to be very big and very vague with no answer. So we're just going to talk around what a god is for the next 45 minutes to lay the foundation for the next episodes because this is information that although there's no answer to people need to know,
Preston Meyer 03:38
a religion can't exist without these ideas, whether they use the same vocabulary there has to be in some measure these ideas
Katie Dooley 03:47
and that's the worship of person, place or thing, right.
Preston Meyer 03:51
The worship of a noun object.
Katie Dooley 03:57
Yeah, an object.
Preston Meyer 03:59
Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
Katie Dooley 04:01
you just need to be a noun. Should we r...
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10/19/20 • 49 min
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