
#083 - From Bongs to Beverages: Leading in Cannabis Through 20 Years of Change w/ Dave Daily, Founder of Grav
04/11/25 • 58 min
Dave Daly, founder of Grav Labs, shares his 20-year journey from creating the original Gravitron in his parents' garage to building an iconic cannabis accessories brand that's now expanding into THC beverages.
• Building a differentiated product with the original all-glass gravity bong in 2004
• Growing through innovation when a simple taster product helped save the company from debt
• Navigating the evolution from a single-product company to a full accessories line
• Making the transition from founder-CEO to bringing on a 50-50 partner
• Creating legal agreements that discourage litigation through requiring neutral arbitration
• Expanding into new categories with a glass-bottled THC beverage that "tastes and feels like you smoked weed"
• Developing distribution strategies through existing smoke shop channels while exploring liquor store opportunities
• Bringing valuable product expertise to the board of a public cannabis company
• Dealing with supply chain challenges from the recent US-China tariff increases
Visit grav.com to try the new Grav cannabis spirit beverage, a full spectrum product that captures the authentic cannabis experience.
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Dave Daly, founder of Grav Labs, shares his 20-year journey from creating the original Gravitron in his parents' garage to building an iconic cannabis accessories brand that's now expanding into THC beverages.
• Building a differentiated product with the original all-glass gravity bong in 2004
• Growing through innovation when a simple taster product helped save the company from debt
• Navigating the evolution from a single-product company to a full accessories line
• Making the transition from founder-CEO to bringing on a 50-50 partner
• Creating legal agreements that discourage litigation through requiring neutral arbitration
• Expanding into new categories with a glass-bottled THC beverage that "tastes and feels like you smoked weed"
• Developing distribution strategies through existing smoke shop channels while exploring liquor store opportunities
• Bringing valuable product expertise to the board of a public cannabis company
• Dealing with supply chain challenges from the recent US-China tariff increases
Visit grav.com to try the new Grav cannabis spirit beverage, a full spectrum product that captures the authentic cannabis experience.
--
High Spirits is brought to you by Vertosa and Wolf Meyer.
Your hosts are Ben Larson and AnnaRae Grabstein.
Follow High Spirits on LinkedIn.
We'd love to hear your thoughts. Who would you like to see on the show? What topics would you like to have us cover?
Visit our website www.highspirits.media and listen to all of our past shows.
THANK YOU to our audience. Your engagement encourages us to keep bringing you these thought-provoking conversations.
Remember to always stay curious, stay informed, and most importantly, keep your spirits high.
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#082 - How The Tariff War Will Reshape the Cannabis Industry w/ Ben & AnnaRae
The world of cannabis isn't isolated from global economic shifts—it's deeply embedded in them. When the Trump administration announced sweeping new tariffs against major trading partners, from China to Canada, few analysts considered how these protectionist measures would impact an industry that's already entirely domestic by legal necessity.
In this deep-diving conversation, Ben and Anna Rae unpack the paradox at the heart of cannabis economics: an industry that already achieves the "domestic manufacturing" goal that tariffs supposedly promote, yet still struggles with profitability and scale. The new trade war creates a perfect storm of upward pressure on manufacturing costs while simultaneously dampening consumer confidence and purchasing power.
The ripple effects of these tariffs expose fundamental tensions in the cannabis industry. Labor costs will rise while consumers become more price-conscious. Smaller craft operations will face greater challenges than larger, more efficiently scaled businesses, likely accelerating consolidation. Value products will gain market share as premium offerings struggle to justify higher price points to budget-conscious consumers.
Most importantly, this economic moment highlights the urgent need for regulatory convergence between hemp and cannabis frameworks and the breaking down of state barriers to create true economies of scale. As the hosts note, "If you're in the business of strengthening or building walls, you might be on the wrong side of history."
Whether you're an industry operator navigating these challenging waters or simply curious about how global economic policies affect niche markets, this episode provides critical context for understanding cannabis as both a product category and a business ecosystem. The path forward requires both responding to immediate economic pressures and advocating for sensible policy reform that centers consumer needs while allowing businesses to operate efficiently.
Ready to join the conversation about the future of cannabis in this changing economic landscape? Listen now and discover why smart industry leaders are thinking globally while acting locally.
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High Spirits is brought to you by Vertosa and Wolf Meyer.
Your hosts are Ben Larson and AnnaRae Grabstein.
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We'd love to hear your thoughts. Who would you like to see on the show? What topics would you like to have us cover?
Visit our website www.highspirits.media and listen to all of our past shows.
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Remember to always stay curious, stay informed, and most importantly, keep your spirits high.
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#084 - Less Hype, More Grit: Mitchell Osak on the Cannabis Industry
Mitchell Osak, veteran cannabis consultant and founder of Cannabis Management Review, joins us to share insights on navigating the complex cannabis business landscape and finding success through fundamental business principles.
• Hemp and cannabis policy debates highlight the challenges of finding middle ground in an increasingly polarized environment
• Cannabis business dynamics parallel historical precedents from Renaissance trading states to modern boom-bust cycles
• Companies that focus on core fundamentals like capital efficiency and operational excellence are weathering industry challenges best
• Successful cannabis leaders like Mike DiGiulio (Village Farms) and Zach George (SNDL) demonstrate the value of understanding your business and strong governance
• Execution matters more than strategy in today's competitive cannabis market
• Pricing strategy remains a critical challenge with many companies trapped in a race-to-the-bottom dynamic
• Corporate culture suffers when profitability remains elusive
• The global cannabis market offers promising alternative models to North American approaches
Be brave. This industry is getting harder before it gets better, but when it improves, it will be amazing. Look at cannabis through clear eyes without rose-colored glasses as it becomes a real industry requiring real business fundamentals.
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High Spirits is brought to you by Vertosa and Wolf Meyer.
Your hosts are Ben Larson and AnnaRae Grabstein.
Follow High Spirits on LinkedIn.
We'd love to hear your thoughts. Who would you like to see on the show? What topics would you like to have us cover?
Visit our website www.highspirits.media and listen to all of our past shows.
THANK YOU to our audience. Your engagement encourages us to keep bringing you these thought-provoking conversations.
Remember to always stay curious, stay informed, and most importantly, keep your spirits high.
High Spirits: The Cannabis Business Podcast - #083 - From Bongs to Beverages: Leading in Cannabis Through 20 Years of Change w/ Dave Daily, Founder of Grav
Transcript
Hey everybody , welcome to episode 83 of High Spirits . I'm Ben Larson and , as always , I'm joined today by Anne-Rae Grabstein . It's Thursday , april 10th 2025 . And we just got back from the so Curious Conference in Chicago . We got a great show for you . Today we have a legend of the industry . If you've smoked out of a bong , you've probably used one of his products , but h
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