Hashing It Out

The global fixed-income market is massive, yet it’s nearly absent in crypto. In this episode of Hashing It Out, Elisha Owusu Akyaw sits down with Treehouse CEO Brandon Goh to explore how DeFi can integrate fixed-income products, why benchmarks matter and what’s next for institutional adoption. They dive into risk management, yield generation and the future of decentralized finance.

(00:03) – The fixed-income gap in DeFi
(01:15) – Brandon Goh’s journey to Web3
(02:53) – Why fixed income matters in crypto
(05:43) – DeFi’s missing infrastructure
(07:39) – Treehouse: a new DeFi primitive
(09:58) – Risks in yield-generating products
(14:46) – Decentralized offered rates (DOR)
(18:29) – Treehouse’s growth to $340M TVL
(21:20) – Choosing the right blockchain for DeFi expansion
(25:38) – The future of DeFi and institutional adoption

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In this episode of Hashing It Out, host Elisha Owusu Akyaw sits down with Armani Ferrante, CEO of Backpack, to discuss the evolution of centralized exchanges, Backpack’s innovative approach to trading and the role of compliance in crypto. From proof of reserves to Backpack’s new perpetual futures system, they dive into how exchanges can build trust in a post-FTX world.

(00:00) – Intro and guest Introduction
(01:12) – Crypto in 2025
(06:02) – The birth of Backpack
(09:51) – Lessons from FTX
(15:04) – Proof of Reserves debate
(22:05) – What makes Backpack unique?
(27:32) – Traders’ reactions
(29:04) – New blockchain integrations
(31:22) – Solana’s future
(35:50) – DEXs vs. centralized exchanges

This episode of Hashing It Out is brought to you by Cointelegraph and hosted by Elisha Owusu Akyaw, with post-production by Elena Volkova (Hatch Up).

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Dive into the future of decentralized infrastructure with Elisha Owusu Akyaw and Fluence Labs CEO Tom Trowbridge on this episode of Hashing It Out.
Discover how DePIN (Decentralized Physical Infrastructure Networks) disrupts centralized giants, enables real-world utility and shapes blockchain's next frontier. Tom unpacks the challenges, opportunities and innovations driving Fluence Labs and the broader DePIN ecosystem, offering a compelling vision for 2025 and beyond.
(00:03) Introduction to Tom Trowbridge and DePIN
(01:24) Tom’s Journey into Web3 and DePIN
(03:26) What is DePIN? A Clear Definition
(05:20) Is DePIN a Meme or a Game-Changer?
(08:26) Why Fluence Labs? Tackling Centralization in the Cloud
(11:53) How Decentralization Enhances Security and Scalability
(13:42) Marketing DePIN: Product First, Crypto Second
(19:27) Role of Tokens in DePIN Projects
(23:28) DePIN Use Cases: What Excites Tom Most?
(27:07) Lessons Learned from Building in DePIN
(28:58) What’s Next for Fluence and DePIN in 2025?
(30:32) Closing Remarks
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While major markets such as Nigeria, South Africa, Ghana and Kenya have appeared in various headlines for breaking multiple records, some argue that adoption is not as high as we think. Fonbnk’s co-founder and head of growth in Africa, Michael Kimani, breaks it down.
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Welcome to Hashing It Out, a podcast by Cointelegraph! The Web3 space is full of conversations, and this show makes it easier for you to follow the most important issues and hear from the brightest minds and voices. Hosted by Elisha, Cointelegraph’s social media specialist who has watched the industry’s ups and downs firsthand, Hashing It Out is set to become part of your weekly crypto diet.
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