162: Harry and Meghan called Charles on his birthday, Kate's golden thread speech

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11/18/23 • 24 min

Introduction: Minutes 0 to 4:45 We were off for three weeks due to my health. I watched the docuseries The Billionaire, the Butler and the Boyfriend on Netflix, about L’oreal heiress Liliane Bettencourt. She reminds Chandra of the late great Duchess of Alba.

Royals: Minutes (4:45) to 19:30 The Earthshot Awards and the Kenyan Tour were flops. King Charles had his 75th birthday on November 14th. Courtiers told Roya Nikkhah at the Times that Charles invited Harry to his 75th birthday party but Harry “snubbed” the invite. This was an obvious move by the palace to deflect from the mediocre Kenyan tour. A day later, the Archewell spokesperson went on the record to say Harry had not been invited and so there was no “snub.”

Charles supposedly wanted Harry to call him for his birthday. Both Harry and Meghan called and talked to him along with sending a little happy birthday video with their kids. It definitely sounded like the palace briefed the media but then they did what they always do and claimed Harry and Meghan were the source.

Kate gave a speech about early childhood as part of a symposium. They previewed it in The Telegraph and made it sound so groundbreaking. However it was super generic and basic like everything she does. I remember the Shaping Us claymation video they did earlier this year.

Omid Scobie’s Endgame: Inside the Royal Family and the Monarchy’s Fight for Survival is out on November 28th. His last book, Finding Freedom, came out in August, 2020 and that was an international bestseller. We’ve been covering the excerpts from the book which were published in People Magazine. Harry’s family snubbed him after the Queen died and worked to exclude Meghan. We heard some of this before but not the extent of it. The press claimed that Charles told Harry about the Queen dying but as Harry explained in Spare, he found out from the press as he was on a plane when it happened.

Scobie also wrote that William sees Harry as a defector and that he thinks Harry and Meghan blindsided their family by going public with their issues. William also thinks that Harry is brainwashed by therapists and that he’s California and self-important.

Harry still has warmth for Charles though and that came through in Spare. Chandra thinks Camilla would rather they didn't talk.

The Daily Mirror claimed that Scobie timed his book excerpt release to overshadow Kate’s big girl speech. They royals are panicking about the book.

The first half of The Crown season six is out now. We wonder how Peter Morgan will show Will and Kate’s love story and if he’ll just go with the official version.

Comments of the week: Minutes (19:30) to end Chandra’s comment of the week is from Berkeleyfarm on the post where William calls Harry Californian and self important.

My comment of the week is from Jane on the post with Travis Kelce’s old tweets.

Thanks for listening bitches!

Harry still has warmth for Charles though and that came through in Spare. Chandra thinks Camilla would rather they didn't talk.

The Daily Mirror claimed that Scobie timed his book excerpt release to overshadow Kate’s big girl speech. They royals are panicking about the book.

The first half of The Crown season six is out now. We wonder how Peter Morgan will show Will and Kate’s love story and if he’ll just go with the official version.

Comments of the week: Minutes (19:30) to end Chandra’s comment of the week is from Berkeleyfarm on the post where William calls Harry Californian and self important.

My comment of the week is from Jane on the post with Travis Kelce’s old tweets.

Thanks for listening bitches!

Previous Episode

162: Princess Kate and Prince William are living separate lives, Britney Spears is dishing the dirt in her memoir

Introduction: Minutes 0 to 6:00 We’ll be off next week. Chandra thinks the gossip will pick up when The Crown and Omid Scobie’s book come out. I’ve been watching The Fall of the House of Usher. Chandra can’t do ghosts or body horror. Chandra watched the Beckham series and loved it.

Royals: Minutes 6:00 to 14:00 We’re getting more details about the bankruptcy of the Middleton’s business, Party Pieces. We talked about that in episode 153. Someone has been putting up posters in Bucklebury where the Middletons live calling them out for stiffing creditors and suppliers. We’re wondering why there aren’t any photos of the posters. The man who bought Party Pieces earlier this year, James Sinclair, said it’s all the investment firm’s fault and everything was fine before Carol sold half her business. These excuses don’t add up.

William and Kate are said to be divided over whether Prince George should go to boarding school at Eton where William and Harry went. It looks like they’ve been separated for some time. William went to the Rugby World Cup semifinal in France with George on Saturday. Then Kate went solo to another match on Sunday.

Britney Spears: Minutes 14:00 to 20:30 Britney Spears has a new memoir coming out on October 24th called The Woman in Me. We’re getting advanced details and she really dished the dirt. She talked about how she’s been controlled and criticized since she was a teenager, and she revealed that Justin Timberlake got her pregnant when she was 18 or 19 and convinced her to have an abortion. She said he cheated on her with another celebrity. She also admitted that she made out with another guy, a choreographer named Wade Robson, when she was with Justin. We are sure Justin cheated a lot and we remember when he cheated on Jessica Biel. In response to this story a source told Entertainment Tonight that “Justin has been focusing on his own family... and just want[s] everyone to grow and evolve instead of continuing to bring up the past.”

I read a quote from Lisa from the Eat, Pray, Britney podcast. We wonder how Justin Timberlake dumped Britney over text when not many of us were texting in 2002. Did he use a Blackberry? They had just come out in 2002 and Britney and Justin broke up in March of that year.

Comments of the Week: Minutes 20:30 to end Kaiser’s COTW is from Ameerah M on the post about Travis Kelce’s love of fashion.

My COTW is from Bee on the post where Jada Pinkett Smith said that people blamed her for Will smacking Chris Rock at the Oscars.

Thanks for listening bitches!

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164: Omid Scobie's Endgame is excellent

Introduction: Minutes 0 to 6:00 We’ll have episodes out for the next two weeks and we’ll be off for two or more weeks for the holidays. Last week I named the podcast #162 when it was actually #163. I watched the documentaries The Bleeding Edge on Netflix about the medical device industry and Love Has Won: The Cult of Mother God on HBO. Chandra recommends Fair Play on Netflix and she loves the second season of The Gilded Age.

Royals: Minutes 6:00 to 28:15 Chandra tweeted last Saturday that she had signed an NDA to read Omid Scobie’s Endgame and that Scobie lays out how “none of the left-behind Windsors can manage their way out of a paper bag.” The Telegraph ran a story on that claiming that Omid was sending his book to “Sussex Squad influencers.”

We’re floored by how good and thorough Endgame is and by Scobie’s pithy cutting observations. It’s an excellent book, well written and entertaining. It’s a great read for both royal followers and for people with a casual interest. Endgame has so much more of Scobie’s voice than Finding Freedom and it’s so impressive.

The British media is mischaracterizing Scobie’s book and focusing on the wrong things. They called him misogynistic for mildly criticizing Kate’s worth ethic.

One of the big stories out of Endgame is that Meghan mentioned two names of royal racists who inquired about her baby’s skin color when she was corresponding with King Charles after the Oprah interview. If you read the transcript of the Oprah interview, it’s clear that there were “several conversations” about it, both when Harry first started dating Meghan and again when she was pregnant with Archie. We first heard about Meghan’s correspondence with Charles earlier this year. Chandra thinks that this was leaked by Buckingham Palace as a way to explain why Meghan didn’t go to the Coronation.

Scobie was careful and didn’t name the royal racists in Endgame, however the Dutch translation of the book named Charles. Scobie said in an interview that Fleet Street journalists were aware of the names of the two royal racists for some time. He has said it’s not true that his book had the names in it. Piers Morgan claimed that Kate was named in that inaccurate translation too.

William’s press secretary Christian Jones bargained with renowned blackmailer and abuser Don Wootton to bury the story about William’s affair with Rose Hanbury in exchange for negative stories about the Sussexes. Wootton is the one who published the details about the Sussexit in early 2020. When Harry tried to call out Jones for leaking details to Wootton the firm protected Jones over Harry. We heard about this in the Byline Times report in late October and Scobie has more details and a timeline. Jones leaked the news about the Sussexit as the statement was being written.

Harry was threatened in 2020 by The Lord Chamberlain, the most senior officer in the royal household, who said Harry would face severe consequences if he didn’t back down. Harry’s security and financial support was later withdrawn although we wonder about the timeline.

Piers Morgan also wrote in his column in The Sun that “Harry would do well to heed the warning of Dionysius the Tyrant who was left a broken man by his constant warmongering and got finally bumped off by his own fed-up family.” He’s basically threatening that Harry will be murdered! Piers is close with Camilla. Morgan also mentioned Samantha Markle in that column, and we think he’s behind her lawsuit against Meghan.

Comments of the Week: Minutes 28:15 to end Chandra’s comment of the week is from Crowhood on the post about Linda Evangelista not wanting to hear a man breathing.

My comment of the week is from Concern Fae on Rosie’s post where Jennifer Garner was showing what’s in her backpack.

Thanks for listening bitches!