What We Oughta Know ... About Powerful, Internationally-Recognized & Accomplished Women
03/15/25 • 49 min
In this first episode of Season 6 of Getting Lit With Linda, the host – Linda Morra – begins with a few important announcements: GLWL is now being supported by the Canada Council for the Arts! With that support, we have a "special" season that we're calling GETTING LIT GOES GLOBAL. It means we are emphasizing books or topics that take on international proportions or have international repercussions.
Getting Lit With Linda will now also feature an annual prize – more of that in future episodes. And we have a new team on board, featuring Maia Harris (Associate Producer), James Healey (Sound Producer), Aki Barabadi (Marketing Consultant), and Raphael Krux (Music).
Linda begins her discussion with a consideration of Martha Nussbaum’s Anger and Forgiveness, to mull over what to do with our anger (and specifically feminist anger, 21:00). Her guest, Andrea Warner points the way in her fresh and accessible book, We Oughta Know. Warner tells us what we should know, but don’t – that is, she tells us about how much the women she is examining – Celine Dion, Shania Twain, Alanis Morissette, and Sarah McLachlan -- did to work past gendered biases in the music industry to achieve international fame.
Warner reminds us that we need to understand and confront not just misogyny (18:00), and the male gaze (19:00), but also internalized misogyny (16:20), and that we ought to know is how to develop solidarity and love for all of us. And, even when we mess up, we need to remember we are all works in progress (16:40).
Andrea Warner has her own podcast, Pop This!, and has published other books, including The Time of My Life, and Rise Up and Sing: Power, Protest, and Activism in Music. We also speak about the following:
- Sabrina Carpenter's Christmas special, A Nonsense Christmas
- Lisa Whittington Hill's Girls Interrupted: How Pop Culture is Failing Women (Vehicule Press) and gender inequality in music representation (15:00)
- Miss Piggy's anger (22.50)
- Celine Dion's VERY AWESOME CANARY YELLOW POWER SUIT
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In this first episode of Season 6 of Getting Lit With Linda, the host – Linda Morra – begins with a few important announcements: GLWL is now being supported by the Canada Council for the Arts! With that support, we have a "special" season that we're calling GETTING LIT GOES GLOBAL. It means we are emphasizing books or topics that take on international proportions or have international repercussions.
Getting Lit With Linda will now also feature an annual prize – more of that in future episodes. And we have a new team on board, featuring Maia Harris (Associate Producer), James Healey (Sound Producer), Aki Barabadi (Marketing Consultant), and Raphael Krux (Music).
Linda begins her discussion with a consideration of Martha Nussbaum’s Anger and Forgiveness, to mull over what to do with our anger (and specifically feminist anger, 21:00). Her guest, Andrea Warner points the way in her fresh and accessible book, We Oughta Know. Warner tells us what we should know, but don’t – that is, she tells us about how much the women she is examining – Celine Dion, Shania Twain, Alanis Morissette, and Sarah McLachlan -- did to work past gendered biases in the music industry to achieve international fame.
Warner reminds us that we need to understand and confront not just misogyny (18:00), and the male gaze (19:00), but also internalized misogyny (16:20), and that we ought to know is how to develop solidarity and love for all of us. And, even when we mess up, we need to remember we are all works in progress (16:40).
Andrea Warner has her own podcast, Pop This!, and has published other books, including The Time of My Life, and Rise Up and Sing: Power, Protest, and Activism in Music. We also speak about the following:
- Sabrina Carpenter's Christmas special, A Nonsense Christmas
- Lisa Whittington Hill's Girls Interrupted: How Pop Culture is Failing Women (Vehicule Press) and gender inequality in music representation (15:00)
- Miss Piggy's anger (22.50)
- Celine Dion's VERY AWESOME CANARY YELLOW POWER SUIT
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Season 6: Happy International Women's Day Wishes + Teaser
Happy International Women's Day - this is our Teaser for Season 6, in which a special guest joins Linda Morra to share our International Women's Day wishes with you, the listeners of Getting Lit With Linda!
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"Now is the Time that Artists Must Get to Work" - Zilla Jones' The World So Wide
As a result of Zilla Jones’ The World So Wide, slated for publication with Cormorant Books on April 26, 2025, Linda reflects on opera (specifically Verdi’s La Forza Del Destino) – historically an elitist art form, but one that Felicity Alexander, the protagonist of Jones’ novel, in part challenges and overcomes through the very successes of her career. The trajectory of that career takes a darker turn when she finds herself in Grenada during the 1983 American invasion of that country – not an untimely revisioning of history in view of the current American political situation (27:40; 28:50).
Linda also speaks about Verdi’s La forza del destino with Renata Tibaldi as Leonore and her father's love for opera (2:15), before she turns to the interview with Zilla Jones to speak about the following:
- Opera’s potential as an artform vs. its polarizing, and its elitism as art form (3:20; 12:30)
- Arts vs. politics (13:30)
- Sara Ahmed’s What’s the Use? (5:00; 6:15)
- Of what use is art in a time like this? (6:00; 31:45)
- Shani Mootoo (Season 3, Episode 6, 6:00)
- Decolonization and racial politics (12:15)
- The novel as a colonial construct (16:15)
- Dionne Brand, Salvaging the Wreck (16:03)
- Robinson Crusoe (16:15)
- Felicity as mixed-race heroine (17:30; 33:20)
- Kathleen Battle (18:46; 19:00)
- Grenada (history of, 20:45, and its “Revo,” 23:10; Red Sky Revolution, 23.20)
- Jones' research for the novel (24:35)
- The history of the Panama Canal (27:40)
- Toni Morrison (31:50)
- Gender and racialized motherhood (34:10)
- Felicity (naming of) (39:30)
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