
Ep | 77: From Fairytale to Nightmare: Escaping the Wolf of Wall Street with Dr. Nae
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01/28/25 • 47 min
This week on From Mrs. to Ms., we’re joined by the remarkable Dr. Nadine Macaluso, aka Dr. Nae—a licensed marriage and family therapist, trauma expert, and author of Run Like Hell: A Therapist’s Guide to Recognizing, Escaping, and Healing from Trauma Bonds.
As a 22-year-old, Nadine was swept up in a fairy tale romance with Jordan Belfort, the infamous "Wolf of Wall Street," played by Leonardo DiCaprio in the hit movie. Their eight-year marriage started with extravagant gifts, romantic dinners, and lavish parties, but soon turned into a nightmare filled with infidelity, narcissistic abuse, and uncontrollable addiction. Nadine, like so many others in toxic relationships, remained trauma-bonded—believing her love could save him—until the pain became unbearable.
At 30, Nadine made the courageous decision to leave Jordan, pack up her children, and start over in Los Angeles. Through intensive therapy and deep self-reflection, she not only healed but discovered her passion for helping others break free from similar cycles of abuse. By 39, she returned to school and later earned her PhD in Counseling and Somatic Psychology, becoming an industry expert in narcissistic abuse, trauma bonds, and complex PTSD. In this powerful conversation, Dr. Nae shares her personal journey from a trauma-bonded marriage to finding healing, purpose, and ultimately, love again. She breaks down what trauma bonds are, why they’re so hard to escape, and the steps you can take to reclaim your authentic self. Whether you’re navigating a difficult relationship or simply curious about the psychology of toxic dynamics, this episode is filled with valuable insights and hope.
Don’t miss this heartfelt discussion with a woman who turned her pain into power and is now helping countless others do the same.
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This week on From Mrs. to Ms., we’re joined by the remarkable Dr. Nadine Macaluso, aka Dr. Nae—a licensed marriage and family therapist, trauma expert, and author of Run Like Hell: A Therapist’s Guide to Recognizing, Escaping, and Healing from Trauma Bonds.
As a 22-year-old, Nadine was swept up in a fairy tale romance with Jordan Belfort, the infamous "Wolf of Wall Street," played by Leonardo DiCaprio in the hit movie. Their eight-year marriage started with extravagant gifts, romantic dinners, and lavish parties, but soon turned into a nightmare filled with infidelity, narcissistic abuse, and uncontrollable addiction. Nadine, like so many others in toxic relationships, remained trauma-bonded—believing her love could save him—until the pain became unbearable.
At 30, Nadine made the courageous decision to leave Jordan, pack up her children, and start over in Los Angeles. Through intensive therapy and deep self-reflection, she not only healed but discovered her passion for helping others break free from similar cycles of abuse. By 39, she returned to school and later earned her PhD in Counseling and Somatic Psychology, becoming an industry expert in narcissistic abuse, trauma bonds, and complex PTSD. In this powerful conversation, Dr. Nae shares her personal journey from a trauma-bonded marriage to finding healing, purpose, and ultimately, love again. She breaks down what trauma bonds are, why they’re so hard to escape, and the steps you can take to reclaim your authentic self. Whether you’re navigating a difficult relationship or simply curious about the psychology of toxic dynamics, this episode is filled with valuable insights and hope.
Don’t miss this heartfelt discussion with a woman who turned her pain into power and is now helping countless others do the same.
IG: @threaldrnadine
TikTok: @drnaelmft
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drnaelmft
Website: https://drnae.com
Instagram: @from.mrs.2.ms
TikTok:@from.mrs.2.ms
Website: www.frommrs2ms.com
Email: [email protected]
YouTube: @FromMrs2Ms
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On this episode of From Mrs. to Ms., I’m joined by the incredible Julie Menanno—licensed marriage and family therapist, founder of The Secure Relationship Coaching, and Instagram powerhouse with over a million followers on @TheSecureRelationship. Julie has dedicated her career to helping couples strengthen their bonds through Emotionally Focused Therapy and secure attachment.
We dive deep into what inspired Julie to specialize in Attachment Theory and why secure attachment is the foundation for healthy relationships. She breaks down the key traits of secure attachment styles, how to identify them early in a relationship, and why they’re more beneficial than anxious or avoidant dynamics.
Julie also shares actionable advice for anyone feeling stuck in conflict or disconnection, offering hope for singles navigating modern dating challenges like hookup culture and dating apps. Whether you’re in a relationship or searching for love, Julie’s insights will help you reframe your approach to connection and create a stronger foundation for love.
Join us for this empowering and eye-opening conversation!
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Ep | 78: Enneagram and Marriage with Christa Hardin
Ready to unlock deeper connections and reignite the spark in your relationship? On this special episode of From Mrs. to Ms., we welcome Christa Hardin, Enneagram expert, marriage coach, and founder of Enneagram & Marriage. Christa has helped countless couples find harmony and fulfillment by understanding the unique dynamics of their personalities.
Join Andrea and Christa as they dive into how the Enneagram can help couples thrive, balancing emotional, sexual, and social time together while learning to appreciate each other's gifts. Christa breaks down practical steps for discovering your true chemistry and creating a love that flourishes—even during life’s busiest seasons.
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