Title: From Prince to Parenting: Tamron Hall on Style, Stories, and Strength

03/28/25 • 59 min

The best adventures are often found when we embrace curiosity. That’s a lesson that Tamron Hall has learned in her storied career as a cultural icon, Emmy-winning talk show host, and broadcast journalist, as well as in her role as a young parent to a son with a shy but investigative nature to explore the world around him.

In today’s conversation, Tamron talks to Jen and Amy about that curiosity and why it is a trait that should be celebrated and nurtured, both in our children and in ourselves. They talk about the many cultural treasures that already exist right in our own neighborhoods, if we open ourselves up to the beauty of exploring new places and faces.

And, Tamron also shares details with Amy and Jen about her latest labor of love, the children’s book that she just released called Harlem Honey: The Adventures of a Curious Kid, an endearing story inspired by her real-life son and his adventure visiting Harlem's most iconic spots, learning a valuable lesson about the meaning of home.

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Thought-provoking Quotes:

Things that are authentic tend to come easy but that doesn't mean that the process isn’t challenging. – Tarmron Hall
As adults, through our urgency, we can rush our children through great opportunities of curiosity. – Tamron Hall
I was very worried when my son presented as shy. Shy kids, especially boys, can be steeped into tropes and stereotypes of what a shy kid is. It forced me to talk more openly about my own social anxieties. – Tamron Hall
The best of my journey as a reporter was opening my eyes to the cultural difference and nuances of neighborhoods. – Tamron Hall
Storytelling is something that we all have the ability to do. When you tell it from your heart and from an authentic space, it can resonate. It transcends gender, economics. It transcends everything. – Tamron Hall

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

Prince - https://www.prince.com/

The Tamron Hall Show - https://tamronhallshow.com/

Jen Hatmaker Gets Real About Healing After Divorce on The Tamron Hall Show - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkm0RqfRYMI

As the Wicked Watch: The First Jordan Manning Novel by Tamron Hall - https://amzn.to/4hnc8qn

Harlem Honey: The Adventures of a Curious Kid by Tarmron Hall - https://amzn.to/4hJEuea

Deadline: Crime With Tamron Hall - https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/show/deadline-crime-with-tamron-hall-investigation-discovery

The TODAY Show - https://www.today.com/

Sisterwives Tell All - https://www.tlc.com/shows/sister-wives/episodes/sister-wives-tell-all

Ebony Glenn, Illustrator - https://www.ebonyglenn.com/

100 Mighty Dragons All Named Broccoli by David LaRochelle - https://amzn.to/4jOvGFz

Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret by Judy Blume - https://amzn.to/3CCSsjc

Billie Holliday - https://billieholiday.com/

The Apollo Theater - https://www.apollotheater.org/

A Confident Cook: Recipes for Joyous, No-Pressure Fun in the Kitchen by Tamron Hall and Lish - https://amzn.to/3ErTZJq

Building Bridges, Not Walls: Tim Shriver on Dignity that Transcends Disagreements - https://jenhatmaker.com/podcasts/series-64/building-bridges-not-walls-tim-shriver-on-dignity-that-transcends-disagreements/

Guest’s Links:

Tamron’s website - https://tamronhallshow.com/

Tamron’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tamronhall

Tamron’s Twitter - https://x.com/tamronhall

Tamron’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TamronHall/

Tamron’s TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@tamronhall

Tamron’s Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/tamronhallshow

Connect with Jen!

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Thought-provoking Quotes:

Things that are authentic tend to come easy but that doesn't mean that the process isn’t challenging. – Tarmron Hall
As adults, through our urgency, we can rush our children through great opportunities of curiosity. – Tamron Hall
I was very worried when my son presented as shy. Shy kids, especially boys, can be steeped into tropes and stereotypes of what a shy kid is. It forced me to talk more openly about my own social anxieties. – Tamron Hall
The best of my journey as a reporter was opening my eyes to the cultural difference and nuances of neighborhoods. – Tamron Hall
Storytelling is something that we all have the ability to do. When you tell it from your heart and from an authentic space, it can resonate. It transcends gender, economics. It transcends everything. – Tamron Hall

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

Prince - https://www.prince.com/

The Tamron Hall Show - https://tamronhallshow.com/

Jen Hatmaker Gets Real About Healing After Divorce on The Tamron Hall Show - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkm0RqfRYMI

As the Wicked Watch: The First Jordan Manning Novel by Tamron Hall - https://amzn.to/4hnc8qn

Harlem Honey: The Adventures of a Curious Kid by Tarmron Hall - https://amzn.to/4hJEuea

Deadline: Crime With Tamron Hall - https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/show/deadline-crime-with-tamron-hall-investigation-discovery

The TODAY Show - https://www.today.com/

Sisterwives Tell All - https://www.tlc.com/shows/sister-wives/episodes/sister-wives-tell-all

Ebony Glenn, Illustrator - https://www.ebonyglenn.com/

100 Mighty Dragons All Named Broccoli by David LaRochelle - https://amzn.to/4jOvGFz

Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret by Judy Blume - https://amzn.to/3CCSsjc

Billie Holliday - https://billieholiday.com/

The Apollo Theater - https://www.apollotheater.org/

A Confident Cook: Recipes for Joyous, No-Pressure Fun in the Kitchen by Tamron Hall and Lish - https://amzn.to/3ErTZJq

Guest’s Links:

Tamron’s website - https://tamronhallshow.com/

Tamron’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tamronhall

Tamron’s Twitter - https://x.com/tamronhall

Tamron’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TamronHall/

Tamron’s TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@tamronhall

Tamron’s Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/tamronhallshow

Connect with Jen!

Previous Episode

Midlife Renaissance: Reclaiming the Conversation about Our Bodies and Menopause with Dr. Louise Newson

Description:

Today, Jen and Amy have an intimate conversation with preeminent perimenopausal and menopausal specialist and women’s health advocate, Dr. Louise Newson, who has been described as the “medic who kickstarted the menopause revolution” for her commitment to increasing awareness and knowledge about hormones, perimenopause and menopause through her books, podcast, and educational videos on social media.

In this candid and enlightening conversation, we discuss:

The biggest misconceptions women have about menopause including understanding the array of symptoms that can be attributed to it
How the conversations our mothers and grandmothers had (or didn’t have) about menopause are evolving
The discussions we should be having with our doctors about our health and symptoms but aren’t, either due to shame or lack of information
Important steps we can take now to minimize our menopausal symptoms later
Treatment options to alleviate our perimenopause/menopause symptoms once they begin, including hormone replacement therapy
And, why it’s imperative for policymakers, insurers, employers, and doctors of all specialties to be part this conversation

Thought-provoking Quotes:

What’s going wrong or right in this [menopause/perimenopause] conversation is that women are understanding this faster than their healthcare professionals are. – Dr. Louise Newson
I’ve been taking hormones now for 9 years but the dose of estrogen I need, I cannot get from my NHS GP and I am white, I’m middle-class, I’m middle-class, and English-speaking. If I’m struggling, what does that mean for the majority of people globally? They're not having a voice and they’re struggling. – Dr. Louise Newson
Menopause lasts forever (i.e. until the day we die). It's not just something to get you through until the next job interview, or the next phase of your life, or the next relationship. It is forever. You have to make sure the [treatment] choice you make is right for you. – Dr. Louise Newson
Hormones are good but they’re not going to help me as much as if I look after myself. – Dr. Louise Newson

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

The Definitive Guide to the Perimenopause and Menopause by Dr. Louise Newson- https://amzn.to/3Rf4LFQ

Newson Health Menopause and Wellbeing Centre - https://www.newsonhealth.co.uk/book-an-appointment/

Balance App - https://www.balance-menopause.com/balance-app/

The Dr. Louise Newson Podcast - https://open.spotify.com/show/7dCctfyI9bODGDaFnjfKhg?si=b382cda4537246d5&nd=1&dlsi=b4764565942d4037

Guest’s Links:

Website - https://www.drlouisenewson.co.uk/

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/menopause_doctor/

Twitter - https://x.com/drlouisenewson

Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@menopause_doctor

Podcast - https://open.spotify.com/show/7dCctfyI9bODGDaFnjfKhg?si=b382cda4537246d5&nd=1&dlsi=b4764565942d4037

Connect with Jen!

Jen’s Website - https://jenhatmaker.com/

Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmaker

Jen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/

Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmaker

Jen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker

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Next Episode

Reclaiming Your Power: Moms Demand Action’s Shannon Watts on Living a Life of Passion and Purpose

Description:

Today’s guest, Shannon Watts, has come to be known as a formidable force in the world. As the founder of Moms Demand Action, the largest grassroots movement against gun violence formed after the Sandy Hook school shooting tragedy in 2012, her activism has mobilized millions of moms to successfully pass over 500 gun safety laws. As Amy poignantly stated, Shannon’s work “has legitimately made a tangible impact on the safety of my kids in their classrooms”, demonstrating the profound significance of Shannon’s contributions.

Watts has since shifted her time and attention to empowering women, whom she credits as the real changemakers in any movement. She has founded the Firestarter School, a platform designed to help women reclaim their power and has a forthcoming book, Fired Up: How to Turn Your Spark into a Flame and Come Alive at Any Age, releasing in the summer of 2025, which explores the necessary elements needed to ignite a fire in your life and pursue your passion and purpose.

Thought-provoking Quotes:

When you get involved in something like activism, it helps you realize that you have all of this untapped power. And it does give you the audacity to become a firestarter, to prioritize your desires over your obligations. – Shannon Watts
Right out of college, I married my college sweetheart at 23-years-old. By the time I was 29, I had three children. I have a job I don’t love. By my mid-thirties, I realized, this is not the person I would have chosen to be. I was having a difficult time acknowledging that I was living a life that was not true to me. – Shannon Watts
So many women keep collecting new fuel, acquiring new skills, waiting for the other pieces to come together. And we’re prepared when the opportunity presents itself. – Amy Hardin
Society shoulders women with so many burdens so she doesn’t have room to explore her desires. If you’re going to claim space, raise your voice, you are going to get blowback. The direct proportion of how much you can grow your fire corresponds to how much blowback you're willing to withstand. – Shannon Watts
Remind yourself of your wins everyday, whether they’re your wins or wins for what you want to see in the world. Give yourself hope and affirmation. – Shannon Watts
Fighting for your safety and your rights is a form of self-care and a form of protection for other people. – Shannon Watts

Resources Mentioned in This Episode: