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Dave Montgomery
Final Surge Podcast
06/12/20 • 36 min
Welcome to episode 162 of the Final Surge Podcast. Every spring the track world watches as high school boys chase the elusive sub-4 minute mile club. This year with the quarantine lockdown that chase looked more elusive than ever. In late May a group of elite runners got together for the Quarantine Clasico. In that race Leo Daschbach unleashed a 56 second last 400 to become the 11th American high school boy to break 4. We talk to Leo's coach Dave Montgomery about his career and that race.
1:10 How did you get started in running?
3:36 Leo ran a 4:44 1600 which is good for a Freshman, but not what points to a sub-4 miler someday.
5:54 With his interactions with other kids Leo seems like such a good kid
6:42 Did he run before he was a Freshman or just soccer?
8:14 Was it the Sophmore year that you really saw the potential?
11:25 Some kids are great at the 800 and some are great at the 5k, not many have the range he does. Is that something you try to develop?
12:30 He had a great cross country season obviously, was there talk of chasing 4 at the time?
14:00 Where is he committed to college?
15:23 At the point it was clear there was not going to be a season did he ever back off?
17:15 During cross at Desert Twilight he was far enough behind Cole with 600 to go I didn't think he had a shot, but he unleashed a kick that was amazing.
19:14 When did the idea for the Quarantine race come about?
21:33 Pick a week 3-4 weeks out, what did a week of training look like?
23:42 Was 10-miles the typical long run?
24:32 Do you run by time or miles?
25:06 Things looked good going into the race, what was your conversation before the race?
27:14 With 250 left to go he is in a group of 3 of the best runners in the country and he just takes off from the group
28:28 Knowing he finished with a 56.6 do you think he could have gone even faster?
29:07 What do you think his ceiling is when he goes off to college?
30:50 What do you think his race will be in college?
32:34 What is your situation right now, how are you dealing with what is going on?
Resources Dave on Twitter Dave on Facebook Dave's Email
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Steve Palladino
Final Surge Podcast
01/10/20 • 51 min
Episode 148: We welcome back 2:16 marathoner turned coach Steve Palladino. Steve coaches using the Stryd Power Meter. We talk to Steve about what power is when it comes to running, how it differs from other training guides and what has changed in the power world in the last two years.
1:37 What is running with power?
2:44 There have been some critics of power, what is it in power we measure that makes it so effective?
7:04 Is power related to perceived effort?
9:08 There are a lot of people who run with heart rate and some do off time charts based on race pace, how does power differ in training compared to those two models?
13:42 You have been using power for 4 years now, cyclist all use power meters, will this catch on like it did in cycling?
17:28 Stryd is on their 3rd generation, Polar and Garmin are putting more into power, how has power changed in the last two years since we talked to you?
19:58 If someone got a new Stryd Power Meter, what is the first thing they need to do?
23:50 We talk about some of the changes that Stryd has made
24:37 Nicole Lane qualified for the marathon trials in Chicago, can you talk about using power with her in training?
30:10 How does a workout look like for her using power?
35:03 How have you used power with helping guide high school runners?
38:10 What advice do you have for a coach on how they could add this to their program with a high school team?
40:41 Have you noticed any data with the Nike 4% shoes and impact on power?
46:04 What is in your plans you sell?
Resources Palladino Power Facebook Group Palladino Coaching Page with plans Episode 77 with Palladio Stryd Power Meter
Best of: Tinman Tom Schwartz
Final Surge Podcast
10/10/19 • 47 min
This is a best of episode. Tom Schwartz joined us to talk about skills, hills and keeping the ball rolling.
Mark Sortino
Final Surge Podcast
10/04/19 • 34 min
Episode 139: Today we welcome back triathlon coach Mark Sortino to the podcast. Mark joined us on Episode 39 and now he joins us again 100 episodes later. Mark runs Team MPI and we talk to him about his coaching organization, some coaching continuing education sessions that he has coming up and what to expect at Kona 2019.
1:10 Tell is who you are and what you do in 2 minutes. For a more full bio listen to episode 39.
3:07 How many coaches are Team MPI up to?
3:40 With your 15 coaches are they full time or part-time and this is something they do on the side?
5:04 How many coaches are each coach working with and how do you match the athlete to the best coach?
6:58 How individualized is each plan if you have a coach working with 20 athletes.
8:22 What is the Team MPI system look like?
10:25 How do you work on a swim stroke or run gate for someone you are working with online?
13:52 Do you have people video themselves doing strides or such?
15:09 What type of education process do your Team MPI coaches go through?
17:04 A key is communications, how do you communicate with your athletes?
19:56 Do you find yourself using the Final Surge App more and more?
21:48 Talk about the upcoming coaches retreat you have at Ironman Arizona
25:05 Kona is coming up, can anyone beat Daniela Ryf on the women's side?
28:25 Patrick Lange, can someone beat him at Kona? Does any prepare better for one race than he does?
30:50 Jan Frodeno and Sebastian Kienle will likely be his biggest competition. All three are from Germany, what has happened to the American's?
32:23 Which of the men do you think is going to win?
Resources: Upcoming Coaches Retreat at IMAZ Team MPI Training Plans Team MPI Website Team MPI on Instagram Team MPI on Facebook
Brad Curtis
Final Surge Podcast
09/12/19 • 44 min
Episode 137: Brad Curtis is the cross country coach of a small school in Arizona. Their boy's team this year is a top ten school in the state, not bad for a school of only 200 kids with only 12 boys on the team. We talk to Brad about the struggles of being a coach from such a small school and how he has built a strong culture.
1:10 When did you start in running?
2:08 His background in boxing and how far the boxing career went
4:02 How did that lead to being a cross country and track coach?
4:59 How old is the school and how big is it?
4:58 You are competing in a state where some schools have 3-4,000 kids
6:23 Small school makes it tough in what way?
7:52 How many kids are on the high school team?
8:15 When you took over the program from Josh how big was the team at the time?
9:00 When your team is not big and not competitive how do you entice kids to come out and get involved?
10:50 How big is your middle school program?
11:38 Are you losing them because you are a small school without the resources or facilities?
13:29 You have 25 kids and 12 boys, and you are looking at a top 10 school in the state this year. How hard is it to keep kids so you can build this?
16:00 When you have 3500 kids and you have 50 boys on the team it is much easier to develop and find those top driven kids, when you only have 12 you have to get the most out of each one of the kids, what is the secret to keeping them all driven and focused?
18:33 Has the success of Jordan Black helped by getting people working harder or does it discourage people because they cannot keep up with him?
22:21 How did you change the culture in the program?
24:33 How has training changed, what has been your philosophy?
26:40 What does a normal day look like at your practice?
27:40 What does the week look like?
29:38 So how many miles is that a week?
30:35 Small schools can fluctuate, what advice do you have to make the program more consistent?
33:00 Did it help with recruiting?
34:45 If you have only 12 boys, and some are really fast and some are really slow and then in between, that doesnt leave large packs, how do you monitor how much people are running and at what effort?
37:23 Do you find it beneficial for those who do log their miles?
38:35 Do you have a workout you repeat to kind of gauge your level of fitness and progression?
40:03 Are your 1k's at CV pace?
Final Surge 5 questions in under a minute
Favorite endurance/running book? - Running with the Buffalo's Current trainers you are wearing? - Brooks Ghost Favorite race? - 5k Favorite recovery meal or recovery drink? - Chocolate Milk Your favorite workout - 1k repeats
Resources Brad Curtis on Twitter North Phoenix Prep on Instagram
Reed Fischer
Final Surge Podcast
09/06/19 • 42 min
Episode 136: Reed Fischer of the Tinman Elite Group has had quite a year. He has set a PR in everything from the 5k to the half marathon and just came in 5th in the 20k National Championship. This is quite an accomplishment for someone who didn't break 23 minutes in a 5k his freshman season or 5 minutes in a mile until he was a sophomore in high school. We talk to Reed about his growth and about the success of his team.
1:15 How did you get started in running?
4:20 When you were a freshman/sophomore what type of times were you running?
6:50 Where was it that you made your biggest change that set you on this path?
9:53 You had a steady progression after that, when was it you realized that college running may be a possibility?
12:14 Did you think you had a shot at making the team at Drake?
14:21 Who started working with Tom first you or Brogan?
15:45 How did you end up teaming up with Tinmen?
18:31 Most of you are not the NCAA Champions but you have tremendous success as a team and competing for national championships so what is it that is making you guys so successful?
23:40 Tom has been fairly open about his training, what has been the biggest change in your training since you joined him?
27:33 Breaking down the 7/7/7 a little more and many PR's this year, what is the plan with the marathon?
29:00 Does your success this year make you want to give the 800 a go and see what you could do?
30:37 The first marathon is always an experience, so going into your first one what are your expectations and goals?
35:00 Next year is an Olympic year, what will your focus be?
36:55 You are a very young team how has the reception been from other teams?
Final Surge 5 questions in under a minute
Favorite endurance/running book? - Running with the Buffalos Current trainers you are wearing? - Asics GT-2000 Favorite race? - Drake Relays Favorite recovery meal or recovery drink? - Cheeseburger Your favorite workout - Tempo and a long run
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Instagram: @reedfisch Twitter: @reedfisch
Lawrence Avery
Final Surge Podcast
07/05/19 • 24 min
Episode 128: Lawrence Avery did not start running until he was 30 years old. Almost a decade later he is running sub 2:30, has a successful coaching business and splits his time between his home UK and Kenya. We discuss what inspired him to get running, how an injury lead to his passion for coaching and what he has learned spending that time in Kenya.
:40 Got into running much later, not until he was 30
3:10 When you decided you wanted to run a marathon, how did that training go?
4:35 Were the 5ks the only racing you did in your marathon build up?
5:03 How many people show up for free 5ks in the park?
6:18 So is the running scene really healthy in the UK?
7:50 How big of an impact has Mo had on the running scene?
8:25 Was there anything that drew you towards the sport to start competing?
9:10 When did you go to Kenya to train?
9:46 What have you learned from your time there?
12:03 You picture everyone in Kenya running, is it that way, or it is it the ones who do run just have a lot of success?
12:44 How has your coaching changes because of the Kenya experience?
13:26 So with the easy runs being so easy to do you just say effort of giving them a pace?
13:59 What distances do you coach?
15:42 In the UK is there an emphasis on BQ or do you focus more on European marathons?
16:25 What is your buildup plan like for the marathon?
18:12 Give us an example of a key workout you do during the 10-week marathon training
19:45 Where can they learn more about your coaching?
20:15 Tell us about the contest you are running right now
Final Surge 5 questions in under a minute
Favorite endurance/running book? - British Marathon Legands of 1980's Current trainers you are wearing? - Vapor Fly Favorite race? - Night of the 10,000 PB's Favorite recovery meal or recovery drink? - Smoothie with milk, oatmeal and peanut butter Your favorite workout - Long marathon pace repeats
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Bernie Montoya
Final Surge Podcast
06/06/19 • 45 min
Episode 126: In 2012 Bernie Montoya won the high school Dream Mile in a time of 4:01 and became the top recruit in the country. He decided to stay home and go to ASU. Whatever happened to Bernie? Well in college he was diagnosed with a heart condition and then had a series of injuries. Hope you enjoy this great story of overcoming adversity.
:50 There are going to be some that don’t follow the high school running scene too closely, you were the top recruit in America in 2013 and I want to get into the story of where you are now and what you have gone through. First take us back to when you were younger, back to when you were a football player and how you ended up in running
3:25 You ran your first race ever it was the Footlocker West Qualifier?
5:45 It is the summer right now and some kids are thinking about what they want to do their first year in high school What advice do you have for an HS freshman who is just starting their first summer of training?
7:22 When you were getting ready for your first track season did you push yourself to run with the better runners or did you hold back some?
8:39 Over your career what type of ancillary work or non-running work did you do that you would recommend to a serious high school runner?
10:00 Did you hit the weight room in high school?
10:43 Did you do many 2-a-day running sessions in high school?
12:06 All around the country there are kids getting ready to run their junior and senior years who are going to be aiming for that sub 4:10 mile or sub 4:50 mile for female. For that athlete that was a star like you, what advice do you have as far as getting finishing the career and the college decision-making process?
14:58 What was the most memorable or favorite race you had in high school?
16:40 One of the things that I always heard about you was how everyone liked you. You didn’t act like a star athlete that was different than anyone else, you respected your competitors and you were friends with them. Was this something you did consciously?
18:50 Let’s move to the next part of your career. You had to make a decision on where to go to college. Oregon, Colorado, all the big teams were recruiting you, how did you make your decision?
21:26 You get to college and you are an immediate impact for ASU, you have a lot of success as a freshman, how do you feel your freshman year went, how was the transition from high school to college?
22:55 Your whole story changes in 2015, talk about the heart condition
27:21 What was it like being forced to take that time off?
29:45 How hard was the comeback after six months off?
31:24 How long did it take to get back?
33:15 What is your best advice coming back from a long downtime?
35:19 What are you working on now?
36:50 What does the future hold for you in terms of running?
38:39 You can look back at your career with this time off, who can you point to that really helped you as an athlete and as a person?
40:48 I notice the passion you talk about your high school coach with, you think you will ever take that road?
Final Surge 5 questions in under a minute
Favorite endurance/running book? - Pre Current trainers you are wearing? - Adidas Favorite race? - Twilight Favorite recovery meal or recovery drink? - Pizza and a Coke Your favorite workout - 12x400
Where can people follow you online? Instagram 2_bernie
FS105: Brogan Austin
Final Surge Podcast
12/05/18 • 48 min
When people were projecting the winners of the Californian International Marathon, which served this year as the USATF Marathon Championship Race, Brogan Austin was not the most mentioned name. Not even close. After his win the message boards lit up, who is this guy, he must be a doper. Turns out he is not a doper but another Tom 'Tinman' Schwartz trained athlete who has been working hard for his moment. And we caught up with him to talk about his win.
Background
- Dad ran to lose weight and would run with him as young as 5 years old
- 1-mile route would run and kept running
- Tried football in 7-8th grade and was too small
- Made varsity as Freshman in high school and progressed from there
- Senior year took on another coach and went from 30 to 70 miles a week
- Ran at Drake but overtrained by working more on side
- After college ran but cut way back
Tinman connection
- Saw success the Tinmen Elite crew were having and wanted to start working with Tom
- Started working with Tom in July 2018
- Tom proved you don't need to outwork everyone
- An approach of one day at a time and keeping the ball rolling
- All workouts are reasonable, feel you could do more at end of a workout
- Questioned if it was too easy
- Never once did we do marathon pace specific running
Training
- Used to do 3 staple workouts, 6-8 mile tempo a 5:00, mile repeats at half marathon pace, 800 repeats at 5k pace. Was only done one of those a week and Saturday long run as a progression
- Ran 12 miles almost every day
- Tom had mix workouts, one we did every 2-3 weeks with 10k pace, then hills, then 800-1600 pace
- Noticed each time did that workout felt progress
- Ran 62:39 in half marathon and knew he was fit
- Workouts are easy to recover from
Expectations Going In
- Had expectations that could win
- 1/2 marathon gave me confidence
- Tinman said could win it
- Consistently doing 90 miles a week with a few longer weeks here and there
- Longest runs 2:20 minutes
- No marathon pace work had me worried, but Tom said at 21-miles you will be stronger than everyone
- Never had a workout could not do because was fatigued
Race
- When Matt Llano opened the lead had to force himself to not go with him, plan was to go 66
- Mid-race started doubting training
- After mile 20 was told Matt was 2 miles ahead so focused on the pack for second
- With 5k to go tried to make move and was surprised legs responded even though tired
- Started reeling in Matt, could see lead vehicles
- Caught him with 500m to go and surged past making strong move
Final Surge 5 questions in under a minute
Favorite endurance/running book? - Born to Run Current trainers you are wearing? - Nike Air Pegasus Favorite race? - Drake Relays Favorite recovery meal or recovery drink? - Buritto Your favorite workout - Long Run
Previous interview with Tinman Brogan's sponsor Rabbit Instagram: @brogan.austin Facebook: Brogan Austin Twitter: @brogan_austin
Christine Thorn
Final Surge Podcast
11/17/20 • 34 min
Welcome to episode 174 of the Final Surge Podcast where today we welcome professional runner Christine Thorn to the program. Four years ago Christine was playing basketball on a scholarship in college. Last year she ran 11th in the Steeplechase at the US National Championships. We talk to Christine about the path she took to get here, the coaching she is involved with, and what she hopes for next year on the track.
1:09 How did you get into running?
4:15 You ran with your high school team in Junior High right?
5:00 Did you run in high school?
5:54 Did you run on the side on college or no just basketball?
6:39 What gave you the thought that you could compete at the D2 level after your basketball career?
7:32 In college you sound like you were reluctant to try the steeple?
11:15 How did you feel coming back to run the 1500 finals after?
12:00 Did you consider yourself more of a cross or track runner?
13:03 When did you think you could compete post-collegiate?
14:58 Was it your college coach that convinced you to keep doing this?
15:29 How did you meet up with coach Jeff Boele?
17:16 15th in the country in D2 is good, but that is a long ways away from someone who will run in the Olympic Trials. How was it mentally getting here?
19:10 Since Corona hit have you done any racing?
20:28 If I remember Jeff's training correctly he does a lot on speed development and sprinting?
21:54 What do the wicket workouts look like?
22:57 Are there any cues in your head you use?
24:00 Have you been staying healthy during the shutdown?
24:35 Is there anything on the calendar?
25:18 You are working on Hammer and Axe, how did that happen?
27:00 We absolutely need more women coaches, who have been your influences?
29:27 Who is your target audience?
31:13 Are you involved in the Hammer and Axe Turkey Trot?
Resources Coaching Page Instagram Turkey Trot
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How many episodes does Final Surge Podcast have?
Final Surge Podcast currently has 194 episodes available.
What topics does Final Surge Podcast cover?
The podcast is about Health & Fitness, Training, Triathlon, Running, Marathon, Podcasts, Sports, Coaching and Endurance.
What is the most popular episode on Final Surge Podcast?
The episode title 'Final Surge Episode 184: Running Lane' is the most popular.
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The average episode length on Final Surge Podcast is 37 minutes.
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Episodes of Final Surge Podcast are typically released every 7 days, 5 hours.
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The first episode of Final Surge Podcast was released on Jun 7, 2016.
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