
Cruelty: the point
07/09/21 • 61 min
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Matt is joined by Atlantic staff writer Adam Serwer, author of the new book The Cruelty Is the Point. They discuss the racial politics of the Trump-era, how these tactics persist in the GOP today, and how the dynamics of the present moment have led us to relitigate Reconstruction-era problems that go against the fundamental understanding of American equity. They also have a few things to say in there about Die Hard and Indiana Jones.
Resources:
"The Cruelty Is the Point" by Adam Serwer (The Atlantic; Oct. 3, 2018)
The Cruelty Is the Point: The Past, Present, and Future of Trump's America by Adam Serwer (Penguin Random House, June 2021)
"The Flight 93 Election" by Michael Anton (Claremont Review of Books; Sept. 5, 2016)
"The Great Awokening" by Matthew Yglesias (Vox; Apr. 1, 2019)
"The Case for Reparations" by Ta-Nehisi Coates (The Atlantic; June 2014)
Steadfast Democrats: How Social Forces Shape Black Political Behavior by Ismail K. White and Chryl N. Laird (Princeton' Oct. 2021)
Schoolbook Nation: Conflicts over American History Textbooks from the Civil War to the Present by Joseph Moreau (U. Michigan; 2004)
Guest:
Adam Serwer (@AdamSerwer), staff writer, The Atlantic; author, The Cruelty Is the Point
Host:
Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias), Slowboring.com
Credits:
Erikk Geannikis, Producer
Ness Smith-Savedoff, Engineer
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Matt is joined by Atlantic staff writer Adam Serwer, author of the new book The Cruelty Is the Point. They discuss the racial politics of the Trump-era, how these tactics persist in the GOP today, and how the dynamics of the present moment have led us to relitigate Reconstruction-era problems that go against the fundamental understanding of American equity. They also have a few things to say in there about Die Hard and Indiana Jones.
Resources:
"The Cruelty Is the Point" by Adam Serwer (The Atlantic; Oct. 3, 2018)
The Cruelty Is the Point: The Past, Present, and Future of Trump's America by Adam Serwer (Penguin Random House, June 2021)
"The Flight 93 Election" by Michael Anton (Claremont Review of Books; Sept. 5, 2016)
"The Great Awokening" by Matthew Yglesias (Vox; Apr. 1, 2019)
"The Case for Reparations" by Ta-Nehisi Coates (The Atlantic; June 2014)
Steadfast Democrats: How Social Forces Shape Black Political Behavior by Ismail K. White and Chryl N. Laird (Princeton' Oct. 2021)
Schoolbook Nation: Conflicts over American History Textbooks from the Civil War to the Present by Joseph Moreau (U. Michigan; 2004)
Guest:
Adam Serwer (@AdamSerwer), staff writer, The Atlantic; author, The Cruelty Is the Point
Host:
Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias), Slowboring.com
Credits:
Erikk Geannikis, Producer
Ness Smith-Savedoff, Engineer
As the Biden administration gears up, we'll help you understand this unprecedented burst of policymaking. Sign up for The Weeds newsletter each Friday: vox.com/weeds-newsletter.
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"The Rise of Finance" by Jonathan Levy (Public Books; Nov. 22, 2011)
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Dara Lind (@DLind), Immigration Reporter, ProPublica
Dylan Matthews (@dylanmatt), Senior Correspondent, Vox
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Ness Smith-Savedoff, Engineer
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