Considerations In Choosing a 4 vs 6 Year OMS Program
10/25/21 • 50 min
If you’ve made the (great) decision that you want to be an oral surgeon but you’re struggling to choose between the 4 year, 6 year, or the less common 5 year program, this episode is for you. My brother, Jake Stucki, and I chose different paths, and in today’s episode we talk you through the costs and benefits of the single versus dual degree options, and what these years of your life are likely to consist of. There is no one size fits all approach; don’t listen to anyone who tells you that one type of program is better than another! But it’s important to understand what you’re getting into, and there are a number of factors to take into consideration before you commit yourself to any program. After listening to today’s episode you’ll be well equipped with knowledge that will help you to make this decision, and if you’re still confused we’re just a phone call or an email away!
Key Points From This Episode:
- Who this episode is aimed at.
- The amount of time that you will spend on oral surgery when doing a 6 year (i.e. dual degree) program.
- Off-service time that is a part of the 4 year (i.e. single degree) OMS programs.
- Jake explains what a six year program generally consists of.
- Misconceptions about the 5 year program.
- Benefits of doing an internship year before medical school.
- Differences between the costs of 4 and 6 year programs.
- The value of moonlighting during medical school.
- Money making potential of the 4 versus 6 year degrees.
- Reasons to do a 6 year program.
- Variety between 6 years programs in the amount of general surgery that forms part of the degree.
- Our experience of general surgery residency.
- Why you should take into consideration the certification that you are going to receive before choosing your program.
- We share our thoughts on patients’ opinions of a 6 years versus 4 year program.
- Circumstances where having a 6 year degree may make your life easier.
- The split between 4 year and 6 year programs within the 100 accredited OMFS programs in the United States.
- My struggle to decide between a 4 and 6 year program.
- Unfortunate mentalities that people hold towards one degree or the other.
- Why you should find out how much practical experience you are going to get during the course of your degree before you enroll.
Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:
Dr. Grant Stucki Email — [email protected]
Dr. Grant Stucki Phone — 720-441-6059
Dr. Jake Stucki Email — [email protected]
If you’ve made the (great) decision that you want to be an oral surgeon but you’re struggling to choose between the 4 year, 6 year, or the less common 5 year program, this episode is for you. My brother, Jake Stucki, and I chose different paths, and in today’s episode we talk you through the costs and benefits of the single versus dual degree options, and what these years of your life are likely to consist of. There is no one size fits all approach; don’t listen to anyone who tells you that one type of program is better than another! But it’s important to understand what you’re getting into, and there are a number of factors to take into consideration before you commit yourself to any program. After listening to today’s episode you’ll be well equipped with knowledge that will help you to make this decision, and if you’re still confused we’re just a phone call or an email away!
Key Points From This Episode:
- Who this episode is aimed at.
- The amount of time that you will spend on oral surgery when doing a 6 year (i.e. dual degree) program.
- Off-service time that is a part of the 4 year (i.e. single degree) OMS programs.
- Jake explains what a six year program generally consists of.
- Misconceptions about the 5 year program.
- Benefits of doing an internship year before medical school.
- Differences between the costs of 4 and 6 year programs.
- The value of moonlighting during medical school.
- Money making potential of the 4 versus 6 year degrees.
- Reasons to do a 6 year program.
- Variety between 6 years programs in the amount of general surgery that forms part of the degree.
- Our experience of general surgery residency.
- Why you should take into consideration the certification that you are going to receive before choosing your program.
- We share our thoughts on patients’ opinions of a 6 years versus 4 year program.
- Circumstances where having a 6 year degree may make your life easier.
- The split between 4 year and 6 year programs within the 100 accredited OMFS programs in the United States.
- My struggle to decide between a 4 and 6 year program.
- Unfortunate mentalities that people hold towards one degree or the other.
- Why you should find out how much practical experience you are going to get during the course of your degree before you enroll.
Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:
Dr. Grant Stucki Email — [email protected]
Dr. Grant Stucki Phone — 720-441-6059
Dr. Jake Stucki Email — [email protected]
Previous Episode
Dr. Faisal Quereshy: a program director's perspective on interviews, externships, and ranking applicants, as well as thoughts on running both a residency and successful private practice.
A native of Toronto, Canada, Dr. Faisal Quereshy is a board-certified oral, maxillofacial, and facial cosmetic surgeon practicing in Cleveland, Ohio, as well as Professor and Residency Director for the Case Western Reserve University’s Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery (OMFS) Program. As today’s guest, Dr. Quereshy shares his unique perspective as a program director on interviews, externships, and ranking applicants, as well as his thoughts on running both a residency program and a successful private practice. He also shares his advice for dental students on showcasing your personality in interviews, respecting the hierarchy and etiquette within the residency program you choose, and using the externship experience to learn about the residency they want to attend. For all this and so much more, make sure to tune in today!
Key Points From This Episode:
- A brief history of Dr. Quereshy’s training and practice setup.
- He shares his thoughts as a program director on running a residency program as well as a successful private practice.
- The financial and surgical benefits that residents gain from a part-time academic model.
- Learn about the fast-paced structure of the five-year OMFS program at Case Western.
- What Dr. Quereshy looks for in applicants: self-motivation and the ability to multitask.
- Power tips for interviewing well and showcasing your personality during the interview.
- Why Dr. Quereshy says they are not trying to fit an applicant to the current resident pool.
- How the theme of diversity has been stressed and prioritized in the OMFS program.
- Dr. Quereshy shares his applicant ranking system and the essential attributes he looks for.
- Why externs should use the experience to learn about the residency they want to attend.
- Dr. Quereshy’s advice for externs; respect the hierarchy and etiquette within the program.
- The value of fellowships for residents; a niche area of expertise in a sub-discipline.
- The educational and marketing benefits that social media can provide.
- Find out why Dr. Quereshy is currently pursuing an MBA and how he dodges burnout.
- Why Blue Ocean Strategy is the best book Dr. Quereshy has read in the past year.
- How daily prayer grounds his wellbeing and allows his to treat patients with honesty, sincerity, humility, and respect.
- Why Dr. Quereshy would use upper cowhorn forceps #88R to extract tooth number three.
- Ending on a quote: “You begin in the name of God, the most merciful, the most beneficent.”
Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:
Dr. Faisal Quereshy on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/faisal-a-quereshy-md-facs-5666551b/
Dr. Faisal Quereshy on Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/facesurgeon/
Case Western Reserve University — https://case.edu/
Blue Ocean Strategy — https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Ocean-Strategy-Uncontested-Competition/dp/1591396190
Dr. Grant Stucki Email — [email protected]
Dr. Grant Stucki Phone — 720-441-6059
Next Episode
Dr. Mykle Jacobs and consultant Bob Spiel: keys to running a successful private practice
Many oral surgeons are likely to have a type-A personality and are often inclined to want to control, rather than delegate tasks and responsibilities. While these traits are useful to the focus required during oral surgery, it’s not always conducive to instituting a well-run practice. In today’s episode, we are joined by Dr. Mykle Jacobs and Consultant Bob Spiel, to discuss the keys to running a successful private practice. When Dr. Jacobs purchased his practice in March last year he only had a week before the world was hit by the COVID 19 pandemic. In our conversation, we discuss the transformative effect that Bob’s approach had on Dr. Jacobs’ practice and what it was like instituting these changes during a pandemic. Bob explains key adjustments that can revolutionize a practice, like foregoing a stop-start schedule, in favor of blocking your time off with like-by-like procedures. We also hear about Bob’s Roles to Goals method to create a more meaningful and motivating environment for staff members, and Dr. Jacobs reflects on what he’s learned from Bob, especially when it comes to delegation and understanding his leadership style. This conversation is jam-packed with indispensable insights and excellent tips so make sure you tune in to hear it all!
Key Points From This Episode:
- Introducing today’s guests Dr. Mykle Jacobs and consultant Bob Spiel.
- Dr. Jacobs’ experience of acquiring his new practice a week before COVID hit.
- How Bob assisted Dr. Jacobs during the height of the pandemic.
- Some of Bob’s methods for facilitating changes for his clients’ practices.
- The transformative impact that Bob had on the practice.
- How Bob structures schedules to avoid burn-out in a dental practice.
- The impact that restructuring their scheduling and consultation has had on the practice.
- The joy and efficiency of establishing a flow in your practice.
- The role of a flow manager.
- How to empower your team so that they can support the doctor.
- Bob’s Roles to Goals process and how he uses it to train staff.
- How Dr. Jacobs incentivizes his staff to reach their goals.
- The importance of an effective and proactive manager upfront.
- The value of morning meetings and regularly communicating with your staff.
- Having a system mindset and how it helps your team take ownership of their actions.
- Why hiring Bob as a consultant was the best decision Dr. Jacobs could have made.
Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:
La Grange Oral Surgery and Implant Centre Website — https://www.lgoralsurgerycenter.com/
La Grange Oral Surgery and Implant Centre Phone — (706) 884-2655
Bob Spiel Email — [email protected]
Bob Spiel Phone — 2085 206900
Flip Your Focus: Igniting People, Profits and Performance through Upside-Down — https://www.amazon.com/Flip-Your-Focus
Dr. Grant Stucki Email — [email protected]
Dr. Grant Stucki Phone — 720 441 6059
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