
How International Development Works
02/14/24 • 51 min
This week Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg sit down to deconstruct several economic theories dealing with developing nations, export oriented manufacturing, the roles of engineers across the world, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite http://netsuite.com/102 and download your own customized KPI checklist.
He rebuttals arguments made by Turkish economist Dani Rodrik relating to on manufacturing, automation, employment, and more.
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RECOMMENDED PODCAST: History 102 with WhatifAltHist
Every week, creator of WhatifAltHist Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg cover a major topic in history in depth -- in under an hour. This season will cover classical Greece, early America, the Vikings, medieval Islam, ancient China, the fall of the Roman Empire, and more.
Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36Kqo3BMMUBGTDo1IEYihm
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-102-with-whatifalthists-rudyard-lynch-and/id1730633913
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@History102-qg5oj
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Check out Erik's new show Request for Startups featuring a rotating cast of founders and investors (including Dan) sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore. The first episode is out now - we over better dating apps, references as a service, and WeWork for productivity
Watch and Subscribe on Substack: https://requestforstartups.substack.com/p/receipt-based-dating-reference-checks
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/request-for-startups-with-erik-torenberg/id1728659822
Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/739L1LR32QI2XyoZlRh5nv
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➕ We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.
Sponsors: NETSUITE
💫 NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite http://netsuite.com/102 and download your own customized KPI checklist.
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📈Econ 102 is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: www.turpentine.co
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✍️ LINKS:
Noahpinion "The Developing Country Industrialization series" on Substack: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/the-developing-country-industrialization
Thread on the economy: https://twitter.com/RealEJAntoni/status/1753450904840286367?s=20
EJ Antoni's "Why the Unemployment Rate Is Much Higher Than It Seems" : https://www.heritage.org/jobs-and-labor/commentary/why-the-unemployment-rate-much-higher-it-seems
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X / TWITTER:
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@noahpinion (Noah)
@Econ102_Podcast (Econ 102)
@TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)
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TIMESTAMPS
(00:20) Episode Preview
(02:12) Debunking economic myths
(03:03) Unemployment rates
(04:56) Alternative labor market indicators
(06:40) Misconceptions about inflation
(09:33) Understanding borrowing and debt
(12:10) SPONSOR: NETSUITE
(17:28) The possibility of economic collapse
(21:34) International development strategies
(26:11) Bangladesh’s need for electronics manufacturing
(30:27) Dani Rodrik's views on manufacturing
(36:15) The impact of automation on manufacturing
(39:19) The role of engineers in manufacturing
(43:25) Future of manufacturing in developing countries
This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-le...
This week Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg sit down to deconstruct several economic theories dealing with developing nations, export oriented manufacturing, the roles of engineers across the world, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite http://netsuite.com/102 and download your own customized KPI checklist.
He rebuttals arguments made by Turkish economist Dani Rodrik relating to on manufacturing, automation, employment, and more.
-
RECOMMENDED PODCAST: History 102 with WhatifAltHist
Every week, creator of WhatifAltHist Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg cover a major topic in history in depth -- in under an hour. This season will cover classical Greece, early America, the Vikings, medieval Islam, ancient China, the fall of the Roman Empire, and more.
Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36Kqo3BMMUBGTDo1IEYihm
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-102-with-whatifalthists-rudyard-lynch-and/id1730633913
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@History102-qg5oj
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Check out Erik's new show Request for Startups featuring a rotating cast of founders and investors (including Dan) sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore. The first episode is out now - we over better dating apps, references as a service, and WeWork for productivity
Watch and Subscribe on Substack: https://requestforstartups.substack.com/p/receipt-based-dating-reference-checks
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/request-for-startups-with-erik-torenberg/id1728659822
Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/739L1LR32QI2XyoZlRh5nv
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➕ We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.
Sponsors: NETSUITE
💫 NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite http://netsuite.com/102 and download your own customized KPI checklist.
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📈Econ 102 is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: www.turpentine.co
–
✍️ LINKS:
Noahpinion "The Developing Country Industrialization series" on Substack: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/the-developing-country-industrialization
Thread on the economy: https://twitter.com/RealEJAntoni/status/1753450904840286367?s=20
EJ Antoni's "Why the Unemployment Rate Is Much Higher Than It Seems" : https://www.heritage.org/jobs-and-labor/commentary/why-the-unemployment-rate-much-higher-it-seems
–
X / TWITTER:
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@noahpinion (Noah)
@Econ102_Podcast (Econ 102)
@TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)
–
TIMESTAMPS
(00:20) Episode Preview
(02:12) Debunking economic myths
(03:03) Unemployment rates
(04:56) Alternative labor market indicators
(06:40) Misconceptions about inflation
(09:33) Understanding borrowing and debt
(12:10) SPONSOR: NETSUITE
(17:28) The possibility of economic collapse
(21:34) International development strategies
(26:11) Bangladesh’s need for electronics manufacturing
(30:27) Dani Rodrik's views on manufacturing
(36:15) The impact of automation on manufacturing
(39:19) The role of engineers in manufacturing
(43:25) Future of manufacturing in developing countries
This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-le...
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RECOMMENDED PODCAST: History 102 with WhatifAltHist
Every week, creator of WhatifAltHist Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg cover a major topic in history in depth -- in under an hour. This season will cover classical Greece, early America, the Vikings, medieval Islam, ancient China, the fall of the Roman Empire, and more.
Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36Kqo3BMMUBGTDo1IEYihm
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-102-with-whatifalthists-rudyard-lynch-and/id1730633913
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@History102-qg5oj
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Check out Erik's new show Request for Startups featuring a rotating cast of founders and investors (including Dan) sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore. The first episode is out now - we over better dating apps, references as a service, and WeWork for productivity
- Watch and Subscribe on Substack: https://requestforstartups.substack.com/p/receipt-based-dating-reference-checks
- Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/request-for-startups-with-erik-torenberg/id1728659822
- Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/739L1LR32QI2XyoZlRh5nv
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We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.
Sponsors: NETSUITE
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite http://netsuite.com/102 and download your own customized KPI checklist.
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Econ 102 is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: www.turpentine.co
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LINKS:
Noahpinion “Tariffs are coming” on Substack: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/tariffs-are-coming
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X / TWITTER:
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@noahpinion (Noah)
@Econ102_Podcast (Econ 102)
@TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)
TIMESTAMPS
(00:20) Episode Preview
(02:17) Trade Policies
(05:58) The Impact of Tariffs
(08:12) The Future of the U.S. Car Industry
(11:42) The Limitations of Tariffs
(13:46) SPONSOR: NETSUITE
(19:51) The Parallels Between Ford and Musk
(27:32) Elon Musk vs China
(30:40) Power Dynamics in China
(32:26) Europe's Role in the Global Market
(34:56) China's Currency Manipulation
(40:32) The Need for Industrial Policy
(48:01) The Role of Tariffs in Trade
(50:08) The Future of U.S. and China Relations
(51:46) The Need for Bold Leadership
This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].
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Putin, Tucker, and Russia
This week on Econ 102, Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg discuss Tucker Carlson’s interview with Vladimir Putin, the state of Russia's economic and military, and the country's relationships with the West. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite http://netsuite.com/102 and download your own customized KPI checklist.
RECOMMENDED PODCAST: History 102 with WhatifAltHist
Every week, creator of WhatifAltHist Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg cover a major topic in history in depth -- in under an hour. This season will cover classical Greece, early America, the Vikings, medieval Islam, ancient China, the fall of the Roman Empire, and more.
Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36Kqo3BMMUBGTDo1IEYihm
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-102-with-whatifalthists-rudyard-lynch-and/id1730633913
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@History102-qg5oj
_
Check out Erik's new show Request for Startups featuring a rotating cast of founders and investors (including Dan) sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore. The first episode is out now - we over better dating apps, references as a service, and WeWork for productivity
Watch and Subscribe on Substack: https://requestforstartups.substack.com/p/receipt-based-dating-reference-checks
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/request-for-startups-with-erik-torenberg/id1728659822
Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/739L1LR32QI2XyoZlRh5nv
_
We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.
Sponsors: NETSUITE
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite http://netsuite.com/102 and download your own customized KPI checklist.
–
Econ 102 is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: www.turpentine.co
–
LINKS:
Noahpinion “Russia is not actually a very nice place to live” on Substack: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/russia-is-not-actually-a-very-nice
“The Machine” Bert Kreischer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paG1-lPtIXA&t=1s
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X / TWITTER:
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@noahpinion (Noah)
@Econ102_Podcast (Econ 102)
@TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)
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TIMESTAMPS
(00:00) Episode Preview
(01:50) Tucker Carlson's Interview with Putin
(04:45) Misconceptions about NATO Expansion
(09:44) Poland's Economic Success and Russia's Fear
(12:41) Religion in Poland and Russia
(16:20) Lessons from Poland's Economic Success
(19:12) SPONSOR: NETSUITE
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(26:56) Disparity in Post-Communist Societies
(28:27) The Controversy of the EU
(29:24) The Real Economic State of Russia
(32:08) Putin's Legacy
(39:58) Russian Sanctions
(51:17) The Future of Warfare: Drones
(53:13) Russia's Threat to Europe
This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at
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