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Drummer Talk - Drummer Talk 261 – All About Bearing Edges (Part 2)

Drummer Talk 261 – All About Bearing Edges (Part 2)

10/23/15 • 96 min

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Dave and Troy bring part 2 of our series on bearing edges by focusing on how to cut your own!

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From ChrisDave & Troy, I loved the episode on bearing edges. Between that and the refinishing podcasts, it’s making me want to dust off my old basswood Sonor Force 2001’s and refinish them. The toms are 12×10, 13×11 and 16×16. That seems really deep compared to the kits I’ve been playing on recently. Can you touch on how tom depth and bearing edge variations work together to produce certain sounds? Also, the drums have a flat black lacquer finish I’m not crazy about. Would I be able to varnish over that or do anything to bring some life to the physical appearance?Thanks! Chris

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6 Part process

  1. Rough cut the shells
    • Using a caliper measure the thickness of your drum shell ( Use a digital caliper )
    • Set your router in the routing table and raise the bit height to ? of that measurement from below
    • Flush the shell against the bit so that it’s touching the blade and measure the distance between the blade and the bearing
    • repeat steps until you have the gap between the shell and the blade that you want
    • Lock your router and plug it in. Cut outside edge first: slowly ease on and off the bit using a clockwise motion. Cut inside edge next: s...
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Dave and Troy bring part 2 of our series on bearing edges by focusing on how to cut your own!

Drummer Talk Mailbag

From ChrisDave & Troy, I loved the episode on bearing edges. Between that and the refinishing podcasts, it’s making me want to dust off my old basswood Sonor Force 2001’s and refinish them. The toms are 12×10, 13×11 and 16×16. That seems really deep compared to the kits I’ve been playing on recently. Can you touch on how tom depth and bearing edge variations work together to produce certain sounds? Also, the drums have a flat black lacquer finish I’m not crazy about. Would I be able to varnish over that or do anything to bring some life to the physical appearance?Thanks! Chris

News

Topic Notes

Tools

6 Part process

  1. Rough cut the shells
    • Using a caliper measure the thickness of your drum shell ( Use a digital caliper )
    • Set your router in the routing table and raise the bit height to ? of that measurement from below
    • Flush the shell against the bit so that it’s touching the blade and measure the distance between the blade and the bearing
    • repeat steps until you have the gap between the shell and the blade that you want
    • Lock your router and plug it in. Cut outside edge first: slowly ease on and off the bit using a clockwise motion. Cut inside edge next: s...

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undefined - Drummer Talk 260 – All About Bearing Edges (Part 1)

Drummer Talk 260 – All About Bearing Edges (Part 1)

Professor Troy drops the knowledge in part 1 of our two-part series on bearing edges.

Opening Detritus

  • Shout out to our newest DT Patrons, Craig Parton, Samuel di Prete, Jonathan Winfrey, Brady Ponton, and Eric Ahern
  • We’re getting caught up on Patreon rewards!

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From Eric:

Hi Dave-

I’ve been an on and off listener to the podcast for the last two years or so, and I have to tell you that the last episode, featuring Mrs. What Is Up speaking about music theory, was probably my all-time favorite so far. It spurred me to finally donate to support the podcast. I’m a 38 year old teacher of French and Spanish, and have been a (sometimes frustrated) life-long music learner. I could completely relate to that feeling of giving up on music when hitting a wall in learning music theory (and in my case notation). Growing up taking music classes in school, I was a failed saxophone player, then a failed guitarist, and finally a mediocre snare drummer. Later in life I finally got my hands on a drum kit and felt like I had found my instrument. I progressed and starting playing in bands, loving every minute of it. But the music theory cloud loomed over me like a fowl reminder of my inadequacy. As you so rightly said, it was like the other members of the band were speaking in a foreign tongue that I longed to understand. That spurred me to pick up a ukulele and learn some easy three-chord pop songs. Ukulele got me back into guitar, and the more I learned the more I wanted to learn. Now I still play drums, but I am also learning more and more music theory just by virtue of playing guitar, learning scales, song structure, keys, chord formation, etc. This knowledge has greatly benefited my drumming. Plus now I can shred on guitar in a Strokes cover band.As a language teacher, the entire podcast I kept waiting for someone to make the analogy to language learning. In fact, I only ever made any progress in music once I started thinking about the steps I took in learning languages, which for some reason was always easier for me. When you made the comparison to learning German, I actually yelled out “Hell yes!”. Sorry for the long-winded email; I just wanted to say thank you so much for this inspirational conversation, and for the resources that you, Shannon and Troy shared. It would be so great to hear another episode getting more into the details of theory with your lovely wife.Best,Eric

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Next Week: All About Bearing Edges (Part 2)

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undefined - Drummer Talk 262 – Depression and The Artistic Temperament

Drummer Talk 262 – Depression and The Artistic Temperament

Dave and Troy discuss the realities of depression and its impact on musicians. Includes special guest, Mrs. What Is Up.

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From Dov:
Great episodes on bearing edges! One note, that might be helpful for someone who’s never operated a router before, is to make sure you’re feeding in the correct direction. I love these how-to episodes, as someone who’s into woodworking but hasn’t ever taken apart a drum. It’s great knowing the future options available to me! (Again, my first name is pronounced like “he dove straight into the bearing project before learning what he was doing”)

From Kevin:Hey guys, love your podcast. Was wondering if you sell t-shirts?

Answer: You can get one by becoming a Drummer Talk Patron!

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From Debbie:

In podcast #261 you brought up the story of Travis Barker. I appreciated what you had to say about depression being real and not easy to deal with.

I’m a 44 year old woman and I have loved the drums since I was three years old. My older cousin was in a band and I used to sneak down and play around on his kit when he was in school. I joined 5th grade band but was disappointed to learn only kids who’d taken piano lessons were allowed to sign up for the drums. I ended up playing the trumpet for a semester and that was the end of my music career.

I wanted to play drums but there always seemed to be some barrier and at some point in my life I decided it was too late to try.

I went through a lot of trauma when I was younger and struggled for years with depression and an inability to concentrate. Well meaning people around me told me to look at the bright side, or that others had it worse than me so I should cheer up, or that I just needed to work harder or be more organized. For 43 years I did the best I could but a year ago (October 25, 2014 to be exact) I found myself standing in my brother’s house with his pistol in my hand. Thank God a couple of my friends tracked me down and helped me get to a hospital even though I resisted them for quite a few hours. I didn’t have insurance, I didn’t think it would help, and I was scared.

It turned out to be the best thing I could have done. I got help. I spent ten days in the hospital and was then discharged to an outpatient program.

My treatment plan was the following:

  • Go through specialized post-trauma therapy
  • Take a couple different medications
  • Learn to play the drums

Yep. Drums were part of my therapy, right there on my discharge sheet.

Learning a new skill can counteract depression and music has all kinds of therapeutic elements. The drums are a physical instrument that requires my whole body to work in harmony. It was also helpful to tackle an activity I had convinced myself I didn’t deserve. I had thought that I wasn’t the right kind of person to be a drummer. By learning drums I was saying to myself and anyone else “I’m going to own my life. I’m going to do what I want to do.”

Walking into the drum shop for my first lesson was really hard. A seven year old boy walked out the door and hopped into his mom’s mini van with his sticks and music folder. I felt really out of place but I gutted it out and entered the store. A young, skinny, “musician type” guy behind the counter looked up. I cringed. When I mumbled something about being there for a lesson he was super encouraging. He told me all about my teacher, how much fun I was going to have, how drums take a lot of work and practice but that it’s worth it, etc. I relaxed. I was accepted even though I had felt like an intruder. I give a lot of credit to Donn Bennett Drums in Bellevue, WA for being so wonderfully encouraging to this unlikely drummer.

A year ago nothing was fun. Nothing held my interest. I wanted to die. Today all I want is a Tama Starclassic Birch/Bubinga kit (in Molten Brown Burst!) My drum teacher has one and there’s two in the shop. Troy knows what I’m talking about. Man those toms sound good.

So here I am still playing drums and getting ready to audition for the worship team at church. The routine, the physical nature of playing drums, the joy of mastering a groove or fill, or heck even just getting my feet and hands to play nicely with each other, all have boosted my confidence, given me something to be proud of and have been an integral part of my recovery. I’m doing well now although I still have a road ahead of me. I found Drummer Talk right away and have been listening as long as I’ve been drumming. I learn something from every podcast and really appreciate the upbeat...

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