
Drummer Talk 259 – Music Theory Demystified
10/08/15 • 88 min
Mrs. What Is Up, Shannon Kropf, joins us to help demystify music theory and why we drummers should care about it!
Drummer Talk Mailbag
From Dan,Hey guys, Just finished watching the companion video for episode 257 (drum programming) — great stuff! Would you consider doing an episode where you would break down the sonic elements of some classic drum sounds, and show how you would model those in your DAW? A possible format could be to play a snippet of an iconic tune from a genre, and then show how you would set up your DAW to achieve that sound. While I don’t have a DAW myself, I do have a Roland V kit, with its own dizzying array of settings. If I could see how you do this in your DAW, I think I could transfer that knowledge to my Roland module. Similarly, I’m guessing that an acoustic kit player could transfer that knowledge to figure out how to tune, mic, mix and apply effects to their kit. As always, thanks so much for what you do!
News
- Transcription – “Who Are You” by The Who
- RATT ownership battle goes round and round as drummer “hijacks” band name
- Avenged Sevenfold has a new drummer, but they’re not telling who it is
Topic Notes
- Resources
- MusicTheory.net
- Coursera
- Idiot’s Guide to Music Theory/Music Theory for Dummies
- Rising Software
- Four stages of competence
- Unconsciously unknowing
- Consciously unknowing
- Consciously knowing
- Unconsciously knowing
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Next Week: All About Bearing Edges (Part 1)
Mrs. What Is Up, Shannon Kropf, joins us to help demystify music theory and why we drummers should care about it!
Drummer Talk Mailbag
From Dan,Hey guys, Just finished watching the companion video for episode 257 (drum programming) — great stuff! Would you consider doing an episode where you would break down the sonic elements of some classic drum sounds, and show how you would model those in your DAW? A possible format could be to play a snippet of an iconic tune from a genre, and then show how you would set up your DAW to achieve that sound. While I don’t have a DAW myself, I do have a Roland V kit, with its own dizzying array of settings. If I could see how you do this in your DAW, I think I could transfer that knowledge to my Roland module. Similarly, I’m guessing that an acoustic kit player could transfer that knowledge to figure out how to tune, mic, mix and apply effects to their kit. As always, thanks so much for what you do!
News
- Transcription – “Who Are You” by The Who
- RATT ownership battle goes round and round as drummer “hijacks” band name
- Avenged Sevenfold has a new drummer, but they’re not telling who it is
Topic Notes
- Resources
- MusicTheory.net
- Coursera
- Idiot’s Guide to Music Theory/Music Theory for Dummies
- Rising Software
- Four stages of competence
- Unconsciously unknowing
- Consciously unknowing
- Consciously knowing
- Unconsciously knowing
Music from this week’s Show:
In closing...
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- Have a topic suggestion or question for the show? Let us know at www.drummertalk.org/contact
Next Week: All About Bearing Edges (Part 1)
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Dave and Troy share tips for gigging attire.
Drummer Talk Mailbag
From DanHey Troy & Dave, It’s so great to hear have you guys back on the air after your hiatus — I was anticipating the show’s return all summer long.At the beginning of episode 257, Troy mentioned that he’s been into acapella lately and is amazed by what beatboxers are doing today. I wanted to share with you that I recently discovered a professional acapella group named Home Free — these are the guys that won the 2013 season of the show ‘The Sing Off’. As it happened, my wife and I were lucky enough to catch them in concert earlier this week. By far the biggest surprise was the beatboxer, Adam Rupp. While I’m certainly no expert, to my ears his abilities sound other-worldly.
It would be a hoot if someday you could have a beatboxer do a guest spot on the show and explain a little of how they do what they do. As always, thanks so much for what you do, and know that I get a happy ‘bump’ every Thursday knowing that a new episode of Drummer Talk is waiting for me on my podcast player. Dan
News
- Bobby Boltzer wins rights to continue on as RATT
- Is Steven Adler getting boxed out of Guns N Roses reunion?
- A weekend of events celebrating Al Jackson, Jr. to be held in the Memphis area
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Drummer Talk 260 – All About Bearing Edges (Part 1)
Professor Troy drops the knowledge in part 1 of our two-part series on bearing edges.
Opening Detritus
- Shout out to our newest DT Patrons, Craig Parton, Samuel di Prete, Jonathan Winfrey, Brady Ponton, and Eric Ahern
- We’re getting caught up on Patreon rewards!
Drummer Talk Mailbag
From Eric:
Hi Dave-
I’ve been an on and off listener to the podcast for the last two years or so, and I have to tell you that the last episode, featuring Mrs. What Is Up speaking about music theory, was probably my all-time favorite so far. It spurred me to finally donate to support the podcast. I’m a 38 year old teacher of French and Spanish, and have been a (sometimes frustrated) life-long music learner. I could completely relate to that feeling of giving up on music when hitting a wall in learning music theory (and in my case notation). Growing up taking music classes in school, I was a failed saxophone player, then a failed guitarist, and finally a mediocre snare drummer. Later in life I finally got my hands on a drum kit and felt like I had found my instrument. I progressed and starting playing in bands, loving every minute of it. But the music theory cloud loomed over me like a fowl reminder of my inadequacy. As you so rightly said, it was like the other members of the band were speaking in a foreign tongue that I longed to understand. That spurred me to pick up a ukulele and learn some easy three-chord pop songs. Ukulele got me back into guitar, and the more I learned the more I wanted to learn. Now I still play drums, but I am also learning more and more music theory just by virtue of playing guitar, learning scales, song structure, keys, chord formation, etc. This knowledge has greatly benefited my drumming. Plus now I can shred on guitar in a Strokes cover band.As a language teacher, the entire podcast I kept waiting for someone to make the analogy to language learning. In fact, I only ever made any progress in music once I started thinking about the steps I took in learning languages, which for some reason was always easier for me. When you made the comparison to learning German, I actually yelled out “Hell yes!”. Sorry for the long-winded email; I just wanted to say thank you so much for this inspirational conversation, and for the resources that you, Shannon and Troy shared. It would be so great to hear another episode getting more into the details of theory with your lovely wife.Best,Eric
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Next Week: All About Bearing Edges (Part 2)
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