Giving It Another Whirl

Our last new episode was released in December '19. Right after the holidays, the world shut down.

Between then and now, so much has happened with the three of us that it's almost hilarious if some of it wasn't so sad. (We have a lot to talk about, you guys.)  Anyway, this episode finds Paul setting the table for Season 6. Each week until the new season, we'll be running some of our favorite, previously unavailable episodes from years past, like this one. 

But first: a discussion of why DtN is back and how it'll be different.
Next, you'll find our very first podcast recording ever: an hour-long interview with Mike, before we formally asked him to join as a co-host. It's somewhat naive and unpolished, but it's true and honest. If nothing else, it's a fun time capsule in all the same ways as it's a permanent document of our sobriety, circa 2017. 

Fun fact: this episode has been in the Recycling Bin of Paul's Mac at least three times on accident, with no other versions saved anywhere. In other words, this is one lucky mp3 file. 

It's been cleaned and remastered to the best of our ability, so please enjoy.  

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