
The window of opportunity for designers
04/22/25 • 8 min
There's a parallel I'm noticing between what's happening today with AI and what happened way back in 2013.
So this episode studies the early days of Snapchat, the emergence of high-fidelity prototyping tools, and answers the question “what does it look like to have agency in 2025?”
- Jack Brody (Chief Product Officer at Suno)
- Jorn van Dijk (CEO of Framer)
- Julius Tarng (Research engineer at Anthropic)
- Tuhin Kumar (Head of Design at Luma AI)
- Maheen Sohail (Gen AI at Meta)
- Meng To (Founder of Design+Code)
There's a parallel I'm noticing between what's happening today with AI and what happened way back in 2013.
So this episode studies the early days of Snapchat, the emergence of high-fidelity prototyping tools, and answers the question “what does it look like to have agency in 2025?”
- Jack Brody (Chief Product Officer at Suno)
- Jorn van Dijk (CEO of Framer)
- Julius Tarng (Research engineer at Anthropic)
- Tuhin Kumar (Head of Design at Luma AI)
- Maheen Sohail (Gen AI at Meta)
- Meng To (Founder of Design+Code)
Previous Episode

Tuhin Kumar - From Airbnb to Apple to designing with AI
Tuhin Kumar has designed at some of the most prolific companies in the world (early Facebook, Airbnb and Apple).
But everything’s changing in his new role...
Because now he’s the Head of Design at Luma AI which is one of the companies leading the charge on generative AI.
So this episode goes deep on how the value prop of design is shifting.
Some highlights:
- The #1 trait of craft-oriented companies
- Why you can’t think of AI products as just a tool
- How to invest in the right skills as a designer today
- What created Tuhin’s career tipping point at Airbnb
- What Tuhin is pulling from Apple and Airbnb’s culture
- How working with AI as a material is changing everything
- The biggest lesson Tuhin learned while writing system prompts
- a lot more
Tuhin mentioned Maheen Sohail’s “Unprompted” podcast with AI
Ammaar Reshi (former Head of Design at Eleven Labs)
Next Episode

Kyle Turman - Designing Claude and collaborating with AI
Anthropic has quickly become a category-defining company and in this episode Kyle Turman (their first full-time designer) shares a behind-the-scenes of what it was like designing Claude.
If you’re interested in startups, AI products, or the art of prompting then this conversation will be right up your alley.
Some highlights:
- Kyle’s story of wearing every hat for Claude
- What it’s like designing conversational UX flows
- How Kyle uses Claude in his personal design process
- Why Kyle only half-finished his Claude designs in Figma
- How Kyle thinks about designing for emotion and feeling
- How Kyle thinks about the future of design as a discipline
- Kyle’s thoughts on whether chat should the dominant pattern for AI
- a lot me
- We mentioned Tuhin Kumar’s episode (Head of Design at Luma AI)
- We mentioned Julius Tarng
- We talked about the Sesame conversational AI demo
- Machines of Loving Grace by the Anthropic CEO Dario
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George Kedenburg III (former designer lead at Humane)
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