
How a Trained Therapist Diagnoses Healthy Dev Teams w/ Engineer & Entrepreneur, Kelly Vaughn
07/23/22 • 50 min
Not only is Kelly Vaughn one of the pioneers in building thought-leadership content for the developer community, she’s one of the rare programmers who comes to the craft with the background of a trained therapist.
From knowing what content devs need to grow to being able to recognize the cognitive-behavioral impacts of the developer experience, Kelly Vaughn is truly one of our most unique guests to date.
In our conversation, Kelly leveraged her background as a therapist to explore what dev orgs should be doing to recognize developers as unique human beings, with their own feelings, motivations and biases.
A discipline-crossing discussion, this pod is invaluable if you’re thinking about what a healthy dev team should look like as well as how to build one.
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Kelly's book recommendations: Crucial Conversations, The First 90 Days
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Not only is Kelly Vaughn one of the pioneers in building thought-leadership content for the developer community, she’s one of the rare programmers who comes to the craft with the background of a trained therapist.
From knowing what content devs need to grow to being able to recognize the cognitive-behavioral impacts of the developer experience, Kelly Vaughn is truly one of our most unique guests to date.
In our conversation, Kelly leveraged her background as a therapist to explore what dev orgs should be doing to recognize developers as unique human beings, with their own feelings, motivations and biases.
A discipline-crossing discussion, this pod is invaluable if you’re thinking about what a healthy dev team should look like as well as how to build one.
Access the engineering benchmarks report here: http://linearb.io/benchmarks/
Register for Interact on October 25th: https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/
Kelly's book recommendations: Crucial Conversations, The First 90 Days
Want to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.
Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterruptedHave 60 seconds? Review the show on Apple Podcasts
Support the show:
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- Leave us a review
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The Dangers of Shipping at All Costs w/ CEO & Cofounder of 33 Teams, Drew McManus
In a field like engineering, to have a truly unique 30,000-feet view of the profession, you need someone with 30 years of experience in adapting, innovating and creating in the space.
That’s why we were so excited to talk to Drew McManus, CEO and Cofounder of 33 Teams.
An engineer who’s helped shape the formative years of Apple, Adobe and so many more companies you have on your phone right now, Drew McManus is now advising rapidly growing dev orgs across the world at 33 Teams.
Drew is an oracle (no pun intended) on how to see dev orgs as living organisms, identifying the structural, psychological and technological maladies keeping teams from becoming who they aspire to be.
In our conversation, we touch upon everything from tech debt, to unlocking creativity to the all-too-common danger of shipping at all costs.
If ever there was a way to download 30 years of engineering leadership in one hour, this is it.
Access the engineering benchmarks report here: http://linearb.io/benchmarks/
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33 Teams website: https://www.33teams.com/
Contact Drew: [email protected]
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The Art of Letting Your Devs Step Up w/ Equinix’s Rajah Kalipatnapu
Like every other team-based profession, engineering needs leaders. But identifying a true, tested and proven road for taking a programmer and putting them in a position of managing projects & priorities is still a work in progress.
That’s why I was so excited to speak with Rajah Kalipatnapu, Global Head of Product Engineering at Equinix.
One of the most experienced minds in building world-class engineering orgs, Rajah credits his success with focusing on different ways to incrementally identify leaders and empower them to be the managers their business needs and their colleagues admire.
From his unique perspective on creating CEOs for features to dealing with beloved employees who can’t code up to the teams’ needs, Rajah’s theories on how and when to let your developers step up to the moment need to be heard.
Access the engineering benchmarks report here: http://linearb.io/benchmarks/
Register for Interact on October 25th: https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/
Want to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.
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