
Career Journey 1: Interviewing & Getting Promoted | Thiago Ghisi
09/05/23 • 45 min
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How do you become an engineering leader? Is it the right fit for your career? And if you do, how do you become a good one?
In this multi-part series on the career journey of an engineering leader, Dev Interrupted answers these questions and many more by inviting expert guests from the software industry to share their experiences, lessons, failures and triumphs as leaders. Whether you started your career today - or 20 years ago - this series has something for everyone.
In our first episode, host Dan Lines is joined by Thiago Ghisi, Director of Engineering at Nubank. Together, they explore the nuances of beginning a career as an engineering manager: from acing the interview process and securing a promotion to confidently navigating your first 3 weeks on the job.
Join us for a series of real-world lessons and insights from top engineering leaders.
Show Notes:
- Listen to Thiago's podcast, Engineering Advice You Didn't Ask For
- Register for the 2023 Engineering Benchmarks Report Release Webinar
Support the show:
- Subscribe to our Substack
- Leave us a review
- Subscribe on YouTube
- Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn
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How do you become an engineering leader? Is it the right fit for your career? And if you do, how do you become a good one?
In this multi-part series on the career journey of an engineering leader, Dev Interrupted answers these questions and many more by inviting expert guests from the software industry to share their experiences, lessons, failures and triumphs as leaders. Whether you started your career today - or 20 years ago - this series has something for everyone.
In our first episode, host Dan Lines is joined by Thiago Ghisi, Director of Engineering at Nubank. Together, they explore the nuances of beginning a career as an engineering manager: from acing the interview process and securing a promotion to confidently navigating your first 3 weeks on the job.
Join us for a series of real-world lessons and insights from top engineering leaders.
Show Notes:
- Listen to Thiago's podcast, Engineering Advice You Didn't Ask For
- Register for the 2023 Engineering Benchmarks Report Release Webinar
Support the show:
- Subscribe to our Substack
- Leave us a review
- Subscribe on YouTube
- Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn
Offers:
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Using HEAT Metrics to Bring Purpose to Platforms | Simone Casciaroli
In an industry buzzing with enthusiasm for Engineering Platforms, many are developed without a clear product vision, leading to poor adoption or even hindering organizational performance.
On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, cohost Conor Bronsdon talks with Simone Casciaroli, Head of Engineering at Onto. We first encountered Simone's insights at LeadDev New York and immediately knew he'd be the perfect guest to discuss how to build engineering platforms using the right metrics.
Join us as Conor and Simone delve into the HEAT metrics and explore how they dovetail with established engineering standards like DORA. The episode rounds off with an engaging discussion about electric vehicle startup Onto.
Show Notes:
- Read more from Simone at his website: simonecasciaroli.com
- Follow Simone on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonecasciaroli/
Support the show:
- Subscribe to our Substack
- Leave us a review
- Subscribe on YouTube
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Career Journey 2: Essential Skills & Key Attributes | Thiago Ghisi
Once you've taken that step into leadership, what foundational skills and attitudes will carry you forward throughout your career?
Continuing our series on the career journey of an engineering leader, host Dan Lines once again welcomes Thiago Ghisi, Director of Engineering at Nubank.
In this second episode, they pivot the discussion from the initial steps of becoming an engineering manager to the more nuanced subject of building a robust foundation as a leader. The episode explores the essential skills, the dos and don'ts, and the philosophies that can guide engineering leaders to make an enduring impact on their teams and projects.
Tune in as we unravel the core principles and practices that underpin success.
Show Notes:
- Listen to Thiago's podcast, Engineering Advice You Didn't Ask For
- Read Scaling People: Tactics for Management and Company Building
- Register for the 2023 Engineering Benchmarks Report Release Webinar
Support the show:
- Subscribe to our Substack
- Leave us a review
- Subscribe on YouTube
- Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn
Offers:
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