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71: What If We Radically Shift How We Think About Education? A Conversation with Colin Seale
Dear White Women
08/05/20 • 63 min
As we think about the kids of this country going back to school (or not) in the fall, we can’t help think about how the educational inequality that was already in place is being further exacerbated by the effects of COVID-19.
However, if you take it back before internet connectivity problems and the lack of computer devices to learn from home on, there has always been a problem with equal and easy access to quality education.
We bring you a conversation with Colin Seale, whose biggest mission centers around providing equal access to critical thinking skills by working with teachers, administrators, and parents alike. Hear how every single one of us can make a difference, and how educational opportunities are so intricately linked to racial justice.
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What to listen for:
- Colin’s story of success is based on because of, rather than despite, his upbringing.
- How creating schools within schools - regardless of private or public - create separate but unequal access to educational opportunities.
- The skills that are necessary to go beyond fixing a broken system, but to re-imagine education as it should be.
- How White parents and adults can make a difference today.
For this episode, we spoke with Colin Seale, the founder, and CEO of thinkLaw. Tackling inequity hands-on has always been personal to Colin because the amazing educational opportunities he received in gifted and talented courses and an exclusive specialized high school despite his underprivileged background growing up in Brooklyn, NY made him an exception to a painfully unjust rule. So whether Colin was teaching middle and high school math in Washington, D.C. and Las Vegas, NV, applying his computer science degree and Master’s in Public Administration to fight for child safety at Nevada’s largest child welfare agency, or practicing as a business attorney at one of Las Vegas’ top law firms while representing children in foster care, Colin has always dreamed of a world where stories like his were no longer the exception, but instead, all students had an equal shot at being exceptional. Colin created thinkLaw to give all students access to the type of game-changing critical thinking education they need to not only fully understand the way the world is, but to question it and imagine the way the world ought to be. When he’s not serving as the world’s greatest critical thinking evangelist, Colin proudly serves as the world’s greatest entertainer for his two little kiddos and loving husband to his wife Carrie. His new book Thinking Like a Lawyer: A Framework for Teaching Critical Thinking to All Students came out in April of 2020.
Relevant episodes:
- Ep. 57: It all starts here - educational inequality.
- Ep. 58: The school to prison pipeline - six year old’s don’t belong in handcuffs.
- Ep. 70: From Compton to Oxford, talking with the exceptional Caylin Moore.
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68: If/When/How: Because Reproductive Justice is Racial Justice
Dear White Women
07/15/20 • 41 min
When we think about abortion, we tend to imagine Planned Parenthood and/or providers who offer women’s healthcare in their doctor’s offices. We don’t really think about people who are choosing to self-manage the termination of their pregnancy.
(Side note: what comes to mind when you hear the term “self-managed abortion?” Our jaws dropped when we heard it because we hadn’t considered it outside of coat hangers and back alleys.)
Unfortunately, people who manage their own abortions fall into a legal grey zone, and often, because of the way systemic racism works in this country, they are BIPOC who have a higher chance of being criminally prosecuted for doing something that is, while legal according to Roe v. Wade, sometimes challenged outside of the expected medical setting.
Reproductive justice is racial justice. Listen in to learn more.
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What to listen for:
- What is a self-managed abortion anyway?
- What are some of the issues when it comes to criminalizing reproductive decision making? Sign a petition here.
- How we need to destigmatize abortion and decriminalize women’s reproductive lives.
- The groundbreaking work If/When/How is doing in spearheading a legal defense fund for reproductive justice.
- Resources people can use, including:
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- a Reproductive Legal Helpline for anybody thinking about a self-managed abortion,
- and the latest state-by-state information on what’s happening in the legal landscape of women’s reproductive rights (with a quick escape button if you need to close the browser immediately).
For this episode, we spoke with Mariko Miki, who is the Managing Director and General Counsel at If/When/How: Lawyering for Reproductive Justice, where she oversees the organization’s programs, people, and policies. Joining If/When/How in 2010, Mariko designed, launched, and directed the Reproductive Justice Fellowship Program, now in its 10th year, and worked to expand reproductive rights and justice course offerings in legal academia. Mariko has served on the Advisory Board of TEACH (Training in Early Abortion for Comprehensive Healthcare) and the Board of Directors for Exhale Pro-Voice, and was a 2019 Rockwood Leadership Reproductive Health, Rights, and Justice Fellow. Mariko graduated from Brown University and Harvard Law School.
Relevant episodes:
- Ep. 46: Our conversation with abortion provider Dr Jenn.
- Ep. 47: The bridge between reproductive rights and health care.
- Ep. 13: Racial disparities in the U.S. healthcare system when it comes to Black moms.
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144: The Sisters Are Alright: Stereotypes Black Women Face, with Tamara Winfrey-Harris
Dear White Women
12/07/21 • 27 min
One of the questions that often has come up around our recent publication of our book (leave us a review on Amazon!) is what it was like to write the book during the end of 2020. And one of the things that always sticks out to us is that the problems, the racism, the treatment of non White people in this country that we wrote about in great detail throughout the book, didn’t get fixed in 2020, or 2021. In fact, every single chapter that we wrote in the second and third sections of the book has reoccurred numerous times over since we wrote the book. We’re not in some post racial world here. We didn’t fix racism because people suddenly realized that it was still happening sometime in the summer of 2020.
And our next guest knows that all too well. Tamara Winfrey-Harris wrote The Sisters Are Alright in 2015, and just released a second edition to this book this year. Not because racism is over, or we figured out intersectional feminism, or that we’re even all on the same page - not at all. The second edition includes so much more information about the stereotypes and experiences of Black women in America, what we need to know when it comes to intersectional feminism, interracial friendships, and simply co-existing with and respecting everyone. In the end, the sisters are alright. But that doesn’t mean that we don’t have a ton of work to do - so start by listening in and reflecting on your own perceptions, experiences, and things YOU can do differently.
Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected]
What to listen for:
- The four stereotypes of Black women, and how they play out in our society today (and take a moment to reflect - do you see any of these yourself?)
- Tamara’s thoughts on if White women can be allies (spoiler alert: YES!), and what allyship really means
- Ways to combat our tendency to lump people into stereotypes, and instead, challenge ourselves to see people’s intersectionalities and identities - their humanity
About Tamara Winfrey-Harris
Tamara Winfrey-Harris is a writer who specializes in race and gender and their intersection with politics, popular culture, and current events. She is the author of Dear Black Girl: Letters from Your Sisters on Stepping into Your Power , and she has been called to share her analyses in media outlets such as NPR's Weekend Edition and Janet Mock's So POPular! on MSNBC.com. Her work has also appeared in countless outlets such as The New York Times, The Atlantic, Los Angeles Times, Bitch Magazine, Ms. and other media. Winfrey-Harris is Vice President of Community Leadership and Effective Philanthropy at the Central Indiana Community Foundation, and she speaks at university campuses nationwide. She has dedicated her life's work to advocating for Black women and girls and defying destructive social narratives that limit their potential. She is co-founder of Centering Sisters, LLC, which unapologetically addresses the needs and issues of Black women, girls, and femmes. Learn more at TamaraWinfreyHarris.com.
Where to order your copy of Dear White Women: Let’s Get (Un)comfortable Talking About Racism: https://thecollectivebook.studio/dear-white-women
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05/20/20 • 45 min
PLEASE NOTE: This episode was recorded after Ahmaud Arbery's killing but before George Floyd's murder.
Sara and Misasha are excited to welcome Antonio Wint to the show.
Antonio is a neighbor, father, and black man in a position of leadership with a diverse employee base who happens to enjoy running. In light of everything, Sara and Misasha wanted to hear his personal experiences and thoughts on how to talk with kids about a sport that has potentially dangerous consequences for the black population.
Listen in to this thoughtful conversation for tips on encouraging age-appropriate conversation, respect, and tolerance for all.
Show Highlights:
- Antonio describes how he has had age-appropriate conversations about discipline and respecting authority with his son, who is now 10, over the years.
- As a black male, he is raising his son to respect authority, and respecting authority starts in the home first.
- The older his son has gotten, Antonio has been explaining relationships, and how the respect he shows to his parents at home must translate to law officers outside of the home.
- Shows that have helped facilitate some of their conversations are “Black-ish” and “Mixed-ish”.
- It’s emotional and tough to tell your child that some people will find your very presence threatening.
- How to talk about the shooting of Ahmaud Arbery.
- Antonio discusses ways for us all to be more mindful of discrimination and teach tolerance.
- Antonio describes his experiences with running and what he does to mitigate any potential problems.
- Antonio shares how he handled a tense situation with a lurker in his neighborhood.
- The differences between growing up in a black neighborhood and choosing to live in a white neighborhood as a black.
- How using the COVID-19 event can have a positive impact on the health of the black community going forward.
- Let your neighbors know that they are not in this alone.
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73: How to Be a Wallet Feminist
Dear White Women
08/19/20 • 25 min
If every person in the U.S. spent just $20 at a woman-owned business, it would drive more than five billion dollars towards female-led companies each month.
You’ve heard us talking on the show about how strongly we believe in the power of voting - both voting voting, which we’ll talk about on a later episode, and with your wallet. And we REALLY believe in women supporting women, all around.
This is where Dough comes in.
Motivated by the tremendous wallet power of female shoppers, and the fact that women influence 80% of consumer spending, Anna Palmer and Vanessa Bruce founded Dough, an online curated marketplace, to make it easy for women-led brands to connect with like-minded shoppers, and for wallet feminists to easily find and support women-owned businesses. And these women-led brands include a whole range of women, all shades, and identities.
Talk about powerful. AND where we should all be planning to do our holiday shopping.
Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected]
What to listen for:
- The why behind the founding of Dough
- How the company has had to pivot during COVID
- The variety of hashtags on Dough supporting a variety of women in business, including #Blackgirlmagic, #Browngirlmagic, #Asiangirlmagic, and #notonAmazon
- Dough’s vision for the future
Where can you shop Dough? www.joindough.com
Twitter: @atjoindough
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63: How To Be An Ally, Even When You Feel Overwhelmed
Dear White Women
06/10/20 • 47 min
Right now, during COVID, as #blacklivesmatter has (finally) picked up steam among white people, there is a lot to process – both intellectually and emotionally.
The anti-racism resources that are flooding our social media streams and filling our inboxes are so powerful, so well-intentioned, and helpful. Yet if this is anything like what we’re expecting to happen, soon, what we’re calling White Fatigue might set in for some people out there.
This episode is dedicated to pushing through the discomfort, committing to the fight, and includes a special bonus at the end: an anti-racism breathwork experience from Jenny Peni, to help you process and feel a little more grounded and able to do what you need to do.
Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected]
What to listen for:
- White fatigue. It’s what we’re calling the effect of the incredible yet overwhelming amount of resources, suggestions, and places to support that are emerging now.
- How people in a position of influence can undermine the effort by deflecting. Hear our thoughts on Drew Brees, and why we agree this was never about the flag.
- What we might be doing that can help, or hurt, the people we run into in the supermarket.
- The difference between an ally and a co-conspirator – and which we want to be.
- A few tips and our resources on how to move from “not racist” to being anti-racist, including how to talk to your kids about race.
- Want to make this sustainable? Weigh in on whether it would help if we created a weekly calendar of short things to do or read or watch, so you don’t have to weed through the overwhelm all by yourself.
PLUS, support us through Patreon! At that link, you’ll learn about the virtual community we are launching – and you’re welcome to join.
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186: Reaganomics, Student Debt Relief, and Racism Are All Linked
Dear White Women
09/27/22 • 39 min
Nothing to kick off this next episode like a fiery title, right? But in case it makes you question whether you’ll hit play, please know that this isn’t your typical economics podcast, nor is it going to be so dry that you turn this off 5 minutes into listening.
That said, it IS crucial for you to listen if you want to understand how policies that were made now 40 years ago are still directly affecting us to this day – plus, it gives you a sense of just how important it is to consider who our representatives are, and how you’re going to vote in the midterm elections coming up in 2022.
So buckle up - economics may never have been so interesting.
What to listen for:
- Our cyclical history: power being consolidated in the hands of a few rich White folks, and then being redistributed, and then consolidated again
- Challenging the myth of the cowboy who was painted as a hardworking White man who wanted nothing of the government but to be left alone to work out his own future
- The clearly racist things President Reagan said and believed - and how that played into his (in)famous economic policies
- The dissolution of social safety nets, and how that plays into the recent student debt relief - and society’s reactions - from the Biden administration
For more on the GI Bill, listen to Episode 88: Fighting Both Hitler and Jim Crow: Honor Our BIPOC Veterans
244: Why We Need to Take Trump At His Word (Don't Look Away)
Dear White Women
04/23/24 • 38 min
You know that person you know - the one who exaggerates everything?
It’s kind of like that story of the blameless “boy who cried wolf” who lives in fantasy land and never takes responsibility for anything - and this person seemingly has not only the best life anyone could ever imagine, with loads of money, tons of friends, amazing vacations, but also, nothing ever seems to go wrong? (Instagram is a drug, friends).
Now imagine that friend is running (again) for President of the United States.
And that friend is bringing that energy into the race in the most destructive, divisive way possible, in which he’s only out for himself - which his statements prove every.single.day.
Those statements that you would roll your eyes at and dismiss? Now, you no longer can, because those statements tell you who he is, and exactly what he plans to do if he gets re-elected (spoiler alert: it’s going to be hugely destructive to our lives as we know them, and most, if not all, of our freedoms that we take for granted.).
You guessed it - we’re talking about Trump, and why we need to take him at his word. In other words, even though it’s painful - don’t look away.
He’s giving us the blueprint of how a Trump presidency would be, and not only is it worse than last time, it will destroy our democracy and our freedom along with it.
What to listen for?
- Why we think the risk of having Trump in a second term is FAR more dangerous than having Biden.
- Looking specifically at the harms that will befall our country because of things like his views on:
- Immigration and making America a white-supremacist-centered nation,
- Ukraine and what that says about his desire to pander to the influence of outside nations,
- His hatred of the press and what that indicates about his desire to turn America into an authoritarian state,
- Violence, and how a deeper threat of control and violence will eventually impact every American citizen
- Abortion, and what this means for every woman, mother, and person capable of bearing a child, including families overall.
- Do not look away from the massive threat Trump poses for our country.
Link to Trump’s Authoritarian Playbook 2025: https://www.authoritarianplaybook2025.org/
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262: Farewell 2024, Hello 2025
Dear White Women
12/31/24 • 23 min
Tomorrow, we’ll be wishing our loved ones “akemashite omedetou gozaimasu” - or, Happy New Year, in Japanese. If you’re a long-time listener, you know that DEI work (or whatever we’ll be calling it going forward) is personal to us. We’re both the daughters of a Japanese immigrant parent and a white American parent each; the ideas of multiculturalism and difference are embedded in our DNA, and we were raised to have respect not only for our own diverse histories, but those of all others in the world - after all, we’re each only one of 8 billion people in the world, and you bet that everyone has their own story, their own way of living, thinking, and being in our society.
On top of that, let’s be clear about our chosen families. Misasha is married to a Black man and has two very multiethnic sons who are Black Japanese, and white. We’ve spent years laying the groundwork to help you understand anti-Black racism, deconstruct the model minority myth, and more. Let us be clear - we do this work because if even one person reading, has an a-ha moment and changes their actions, or talks to someone about something they learned here which changes *their* actions - so Misasha’s boys can come home safe at night, or so you make decisions that might potentially improve or even save the lives of children who look like them - then we will have been successful. Sara is married to a white Canadian man and has two teenage girls the world presumes to be white. Doing the work to challenge our own assumptions about other people matters to us because not everybody is what they seem. Standing against anti-immigration sentiment matters to us; understanding the link between systems of oppression that hurt not only Black people, but neurodivergent people, females, and so many others is critically important to us as well.
So far, we have hosted 262 episodes of the Dear White Women podcast because helping people listen, learn, and act differently to help uproot systemic racism is what we need to make the world truly equitable for ALL of us - this is the foundation, the work starts here. And we cannot do it without your help.
In 2025, we’ll be speaking to organizations - schools, companies, ERGs, and more - about two topics we think are critically important at this point in history:
- Why equity and inclusion matters now more than ever - the psychology of belonging
- How to have difficult conversations.
If you have groups you think would benefit, or know people who could hire us in their organizations, please connect us. You can reach us at [email protected] anytime.
What else to listen for:
- Reflecting on the most surprising and memorable parts of 2024
- Our thoughts on the kakistocracy - the Economist’s word of the year meaning, the rule of the worst.
- And where we go from here in 2025...
134: Beautiful Country, with Qian Julie Wang
Dear White Women
09/28/21 • 37 min
Sometimes there are those books that are so hauntingly beautiful, disturbing, or touching (or all three) that you can’t stop thinking about them for days after you finally put them down after binge reading them. Some of those for us are The Handmaid’s Tale, or Americanah, or Song of Solomon. But recently, we found another book that we’ve been thinking about ever since putting it down - Beautiful Country.
In her debut memoir, which she started writing in 2016 while on the subway on her iPhone, Qian Julie Wang tells her story of being an undocumented seven-year-old who arrives in New York City in 1994 with her parents from northern China - and all of the wonders and heartbreak and LIFE that happens as you come of age in a country that has expressly shown you that you don’t belong, in so many ways. Talking to her was like seeing this book come to life - but we didn’t just stop with the book. Listen in to hear about Beautiful Country, but also so much more, in this conversation that we didn’t want to end.
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What to listen for:
- What it felt like to risk everything and write openly about their move away from China
- Experiences growing up living in fear and poverty in New York, and how that’s shaped her current career as a lawyer
- Her thoughts on Afghani refugees, anti-Asian hate, and what we can all do to better understand the people in our communities
About the book: In Chinese, the word for America, “Mei Guo,” translates directly to “Beautiful Country.” Yet when 7-year-old Qian is plucked from her comfortable life in China where she’s surrounded by friends and family and arrives in New York City in 1994, she finds the roads paved not with gold, but instead crushing fear and scarcity. Her professor parents now work in Chinatown sweatshops and sushi factories. Instead of laughing at her jokes, they fight constantly. She no longer loves school because she’s too hungry to pay attention. Her mother, her sole confidante, is too sick to get out of bed, but going to the doctor isn't an option. And most distressing of all: the number one rule in America is that she must go unnoticed—or risk losing everything. It’s under this perpetual specter of deportation that we watch Qian Julie come of age. Yet, while Qian Julie’s is a story of hopes dashed, it’s also one of life lived tenaciously in their stead, with small, vital joys and glimmers of hope: a dollar slice of pizza, Rockefeller Center at Christmastime, a bedroom with her own door, or her very own Tamagotchi digital pet.
About the author: Although the book ends when Qian Julie Wang’s family leaves the US 5 years later, her remarkable true story did not end there. She attended Swarthmore College and Yale Law School and, until recently, worked as a high-powered corporate litigator in Manhattan—in fact, she wrote the book almost entirely on her iPhone during her daily subway commute. She is now pursuing her advocacy work full-time and is managing partner of Gottlieb & Wang LLP, a firm dedicated to advocating for education and discrimination rights. She regularly speaks and writes on these issues, including recent op-eds for the New York Times and Washington Post.
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Dear White Women currently has 264 episodes available.
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The podcast is about Identity, Society & Culture, Psychology, Podcasts, Self-Improvement, Education, Relationships, Politics and Race.
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The episode title '68: If/When/How: Because Reproductive Justice is Racial Justice' is the most popular.
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The average episode length on Dear White Women is 36 minutes.
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The first episode of Dear White Women was released on Apr 17, 2019.
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