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Dear White Women

Dear White Women

Sara and Misasha

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Biracial co-hosts Sara & Misasha - two wickedly smart, funny, compassionate best friends - have very mixed-race children between them, and are personally invested in helping to uproot systemic racism. Weekly episodes include interviews of people whose stories you might not often listen to; deep dives into history, psychology, and current events to explain why we are where we are as a country; and actions that you take right now to make change in your spheres. We're not perfect, but we're real. Join us on this journey.
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As we think about the kids of this country going back to school (or not) in the fall, we can’t help think about how the educational inequality that was already in place is being further exacerbated by the effects of COVID-19.

However, if you take it back before internet connectivity problems and the lack of computer devices to learn from home on, there has always been a problem with equal and easy access to quality education.

We bring you a conversation with Colin Seale, whose biggest mission centers around providing equal access to critical thinking skills by working with teachers, administrators, and parents alike. Hear how every single one of us can make a difference, and how educational opportunities are so intricately linked to racial justice.

Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected]

What to listen for:

  • Colin’s story of success is based on because of, rather than despite, his upbringing.
  • How creating schools within schools - regardless of private or public - create separate but unequal access to educational opportunities.
  • The skills that are necessary to go beyond fixing a broken system, but to re-imagine education as it should be.
  • How White parents and adults can make a difference today.

For this episode, we spoke with Colin Seale, the founder, and CEO of thinkLaw. Tackling inequity hands-on has always been personal to Colin because the amazing educational opportunities he received in gifted and talented courses and an exclusive specialized high school despite his underprivileged background growing up in Brooklyn, NY made him an exception to a painfully unjust rule. So whether Colin was teaching middle and high school math in Washington, D.C. and Las Vegas, NV, applying his computer science degree and Master’s in Public Administration to fight for child safety at Nevada’s largest child welfare agency, or practicing as a business attorney at one of Las Vegas’ top law firms while representing children in foster care, Colin has always dreamed of a world where stories like his were no longer the exception, but instead, all students had an equal shot at being exceptional. Colin created thinkLaw to give all students access to the type of game-changing critical thinking education they need to not only fully understand the way the world is, but to question it and imagine the way the world ought to be. When he’s not serving as the world’s greatest critical thinking evangelist, Colin proudly serves as the world’s greatest entertainer for his two little kiddos and loving husband to his wife Carrie. His new book Thinking Like a Lawyer: A Framework for Teaching Critical Thinking to All Students came out in April of 2020.

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When we think about abortion, we tend to imagine Planned Parenthood and/or providers who offer women’s healthcare in their doctor’s offices. We don’t really think about people who are choosing to self-manage the termination of their pregnancy.

(Side note: what comes to mind when you hear the term “self-managed abortion?” Our jaws dropped when we heard it because we hadn’t considered it outside of coat hangers and back alleys.)

Unfortunately, people who manage their own abortions fall into a legal grey zone, and often, because of the way systemic racism works in this country, they are BIPOC who have a higher chance of being criminally prosecuted for doing something that is, while legal according to Roe v. Wade, sometimes challenged outside of the expected medical setting.

Reproductive justice is racial justice. Listen in to learn more.

Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected]

What to listen for:

  • What is a self-managed abortion anyway?
  • What are some of the issues when it comes to criminalizing reproductive decision making? Sign a petition here.
  • How we need to destigmatize abortion and decriminalize women’s reproductive lives.
  • The groundbreaking work If/When/How is doing in spearheading a legal defense fund for reproductive justice.
  • Resources people can use, including:

For this episode, we spoke with Mariko Miki, who is the Managing Director and General Counsel at If/When/How: Lawyering for Reproductive Justice, where she oversees the organization’s programs, people, and policies. Joining If/When/How in 2010, Mariko designed, launched, and directed the Reproductive Justice Fellowship Program, now in its 10th year, and worked to expand reproductive rights and justice course offerings in legal academia. Mariko has served on the Advisory Board of TEACH (Training in Early Abortion for Comprehensive Healthcare) and the Board of Directors for Exhale Pro-Voice, and was a 2019 Rockwood Leadership Reproductive Health, Rights, and Justice Fellow. Mariko graduated from Brown University and Harvard Law School.

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One of the questions that often has come up around our recent publication of our book (leave us a review on Amazon!) is what it was like to write the book during the end of 2020. And one of the things that always sticks out to us is that the problems, the racism, the treatment of non White people in this country that we wrote about in great detail throughout the book, didn’t get fixed in 2020, or 2021. In fact, every single chapter that we wrote in the second and third sections of the book has reoccurred numerous times over since we wrote the book. We’re not in some post racial world here. We didn’t fix racism because people suddenly realized that it was still happening sometime in the summer of 2020.

And our next guest knows that all too well. Tamara Winfrey-Harris wrote The Sisters Are Alright in 2015, and just released a second edition to this book this year. Not because racism is over, or we figured out intersectional feminism, or that we’re even all on the same page - not at all. The second edition includes so much more information about the stereotypes and experiences of Black women in America, what we need to know when it comes to intersectional feminism, interracial friendships, and simply co-existing with and respecting everyone. In the end, the sisters are alright. But that doesn’t mean that we don’t have a ton of work to do - so start by listening in and reflecting on your own perceptions, experiences, and things YOU can do differently.

Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected]

What to listen for:

  • The four stereotypes of Black women, and how they play out in our society today (and take a moment to reflect - do you see any of these yourself?)
  • Tamara’s thoughts on if White women can be allies (spoiler alert: YES!), and what allyship really means
  • Ways to combat our tendency to lump people into stereotypes, and instead, challenge ourselves to see people’s intersectionalities and identities - their humanity

About Tamara Winfrey-Harris

Tamara Winfrey-Harris is a writer who specializes in race and gender and their intersection with politics, popular culture, and current events. She is the author of Dear Black Girl: Letters from Your Sisters on Stepping into Your Power , and she has been called to share her analyses in media outlets such as NPR's Weekend Edition and Janet Mock's So POPular! on MSNBC.com. Her work has also appeared in countless outlets such as The New York Times, The Atlantic, Los Angeles Times, Bitch Magazine, Ms. and other media. Winfrey-Harris is Vice President of Community Leadership and Effective Philanthropy at the Central Indiana Community Foundation, and she speaks at university campuses nationwide. She has dedicated her life's work to advocating for Black women and girls and defying destructive social narratives that limit their potential. She is co-founder of Centering Sisters, LLC, which unapologetically addresses the needs and issues of Black women, girls, and femmes. Learn more at TamaraWinfreyHarris.com.

Where to order your copy of Dear White Women: Let’s Get (Un)comfortable Talking About Racism: https://thecollectivebook.studio/dear-white-women

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PLEASE NOTE: This episode was recorded after Ahmaud Arbery's killing but before George Floyd's murder.

Sara and Misasha are excited to welcome Antonio Wint to the show.

Antonio is a neighbor, father, and black man in a position of leadership with a diverse employee base who happens to enjoy running. In light of everything, Sara and Misasha wanted to hear his personal experiences and thoughts on how to talk with kids about a sport that has potentially dangerous consequences for the black population.

Listen in to this thoughtful conversation for tips on encouraging age-appropriate conversation, respect, and tolerance for all.

Show Highlights:

  • Antonio describes how he has had age-appropriate conversations about discipline and respecting authority with his son, who is now 10, over the years.
  • As a black male, he is raising his son to respect authority, and respecting authority starts in the home first.
  • The older his son has gotten, Antonio has been explaining relationships, and how the respect he shows to his parents at home must translate to law officers outside of the home.
  • Shows that have helped facilitate some of their conversations are “Black-ish” and “Mixed-ish”.
  • It’s emotional and tough to tell your child that some people will find your very presence threatening.
  • How to talk about the shooting of Ahmaud Arbery.
  • Antonio discusses ways for us all to be more mindful of discrimination and teach tolerance.
  • Antonio describes his experiences with running and what he does to mitigate any potential problems.
  • Antonio shares how he handled a tense situation with a lurker in his neighborhood.
  • The differences between growing up in a black neighborhood and choosing to live in a white neighborhood as a black.
  • How using the COVID-19 event can have a positive impact on the health of the black community going forward.
  • Let your neighbors know that they are not in this alone.

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Dear White Women - 73: How to Be a Wallet Feminist
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08/19/20 • 25 min

If every person in the U.S. spent just $20 at a woman-owned business, it would drive more than five billion dollars towards female-led companies each month.

You’ve heard us talking on the show about how strongly we believe in the power of voting - both voting voting, which we’ll talk about on a later episode, and with your wallet. And we REALLY believe in women supporting women, all around.

This is where Dough comes in.

Motivated by the tremendous wallet power of female shoppers, and the fact that women influence 80% of consumer spending, Anna Palmer and Vanessa Bruce founded Dough, an online curated marketplace, to make it easy for women-led brands to connect with like-minded shoppers, and for wallet feminists to easily find and support women-owned businesses. And these women-led brands include a whole range of women, all shades, and identities.

Talk about powerful. AND where we should all be planning to do our holiday shopping.

Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected]

What to listen for:

  • The why behind the founding of Dough
  • How the company has had to pivot during COVID
  • The variety of hashtags on Dough supporting a variety of women in business, including #Blackgirlmagic, #Browngirlmagic, #Asiangirlmagic, and #notonAmazon
  • Dough’s vision for the future

Where can you shop Dough? www.joindough.com

Twitter: @atjoindough

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Dear White Women - 63: How To Be An Ally, Even When You Feel Overwhelmed
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06/10/20 • 47 min

Right now, during COVID, as #blacklivesmatter has (finally) picked up steam among white people, there is a lot to process – both intellectually and emotionally.

The anti-racism resources that are flooding our social media streams and filling our inboxes are so powerful, so well-intentioned, and helpful. Yet if this is anything like what we’re expecting to happen, soon, what we’re calling White Fatigue might set in for some people out there.

This episode is dedicated to pushing through the discomfort, committing to the fight, and includes a special bonus at the end: an anti-racism breathwork experience from Jenny Peni, to help you process and feel a little more grounded and able to do what you need to do.

Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected]

What to listen for:

  • White fatigue. It’s what we’re calling the effect of the incredible yet overwhelming amount of resources, suggestions, and places to support that are emerging now.
  • How people in a position of influence can undermine the effort by deflecting. Hear our thoughts on Drew Brees, and why we agree this was never about the flag.
  • What we might be doing that can help, or hurt, the people we run into in the supermarket.
  • The difference between an ally and a co-conspirator – and which we want to be.
  • A few tips and our resources on how to move from “not racist” to being anti-racist, including how to talk to your kids about race.
  • Want to make this sustainable? Weigh in on whether it would help if we created a weekly calendar of short things to do or read or watch, so you don’t have to weed through the overwhelm all by yourself.

PLUS, support us through Patreon! At that link, you’ll learn about the virtual community we are launching – and you’re welcome to join.

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Catch up on more commentary between episodes by following us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter – and even more opinions and resources if you join our email list.

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Welcome to the first installment of a 3-part series where Sara and Misasha cover topics such as DWB, or driving while black, eye-popping traffic-stop statistics, and an overview of our criminal justice system. You’ll even get to hear Sara rap!

Congratulations to Dear White Women Podcast, who was recently awarded “Best Episode” for the Inaugural Colorado Podcast Awards for the Crystal Echohawk episode!

Show Highlights:

  • Sara and Misasha discuss the anxiety of being pulled over while driving.
  • If you’re driving while black, there’s a strong likelihood that you’ll be stopped, asked to step out of the car, forcibly searched and have your car searched during a routine traffic stop.
  • You need to know your rights because if you don’t, you could be frisked, arrested, beat up, or even killed right in front of your family that is with you, as has happened recently.
  • Misasha covers your rights in a traffic stop, and what you should and should not do.
  • According to research based on 20 million traffic stops, blacks are almost twice as likely to be pulled over as whites, even though whites drive more, on average.
  • Blacks are more likely to be searched following a stop.
  • Just by getting in a car, a black driver has about twice the odds of being pulled over and about four times the odds of being searched.
  • They’re more likely to be searched despite the fact that they’re less likely to be found with contraband as a result of those searches.
  • The 2013 Justice Department study found that black and Latino drivers were more likely to be searched once they have been pulled over.
  • About 2% of white motorists are searched compared to 6% of black drivers and 7% of Latinos.
  • In 2015, the Charleston Post & Courier looked at incidences in which police stopped motorists but didn’t issue a citation. These are called pretext stops and suggest that the officer was profiling the motorist as a possible drug courier or suspected the motorist of other crimes.
  • After adjusting for population, blacks in nearly every part of their state were significantly more likely to be the subject of these stops.
  • In 2017, a study of 4 1/2 million traffic stops by the 100 largest police departments in North Carolina found that blacks and latinos were more likely to be searched than whites, even though searches of white motorists were more likely than the others to turn up contraband.
  • Criminal justice is a big issue in the 2020 election with several candidates talking about specific reforms.
  • Sara and Misasha will be talking more in future episodes on what the President and the office of the President has power to do regarding criminal justice and what they need Congress for.
  • Once you have a basic understanding of the criminal justice system, it’s easier to understand why this is so important for the upcoming election.
  • The criminal justice system has 3 components that work together to enforce the rule of law:
    • Law enforcement
    • The courts
    • The correctional facilities
  • The criminal justice system operates at the local level, the state level, and the federal level.
  • Law enforcement works to prevent crime, courts strive to enact justice once a crime has been committed, and correction focuses on retribution and rehabilitation.
  • Misasha describes the hierarchy within the state and federal levels and delves into each separate branch.
  • Dr. Phillip Atiba Goff is a scientist who studies how our minds learn to associate blackness, crime, and misperceived black children as older than they actually are. He also studies police behavior and knows that every year, one in five adults in the United States will come in contact with law enforcement. Out of this number, about a million are targeted for police use of force. If you’re black, you’re 2 to 4 times more likely to be targeted for that force than if you’re white.
  • The US Corrections System stands alone as the largest system of its type in the world. Though home to less than 5% of the world’s population the US holds nearly 25% of the world’s prisoners, which is the highest global per capita rate incarceration.
  • Parole, probation, community service, and recidivism.
  • Sara shares information on two organizations that are working to help people who are re-entering society from prison.
  • Along with corrections and our criminal justice system, it’s also important to consider tribal law.
  • Federally-recognized Native American tribes possess a form of sovereign rule that preserves the inherent right of each tribe to form their own government, make and enforce civil and criminal law, collect taxes, and establish and regulate tribal citizenship.
  • Native American reservations have more than 90 correctional facilities.

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Nothing to kick off this next episode like a fiery title, right? But in case it makes you question whether you’ll hit play, please know that this isn’t your typical economics podcast, nor is it going to be so dry that you turn this off 5 minutes into listening.

That said, it IS crucial for you to listen if you want to understand how policies that were made now 40 years ago are still directly affecting us to this day – plus, it gives you a sense of just how important it is to consider who our representatives are, and how you’re going to vote in the midterm elections coming up in 2022.

So buckle up - economics may never have been so interesting.

What to listen for:

  • Our cyclical history: power being consolidated in the hands of a few rich White folks, and then being redistributed, and then consolidated again
  • Challenging the myth of the cowboy who was painted as a hardworking White man who wanted nothing of the government but to be left alone to work out his own future
  • The clearly racist things President Reagan said and believed - and how that played into his (in)famous economic policies
  • The dissolution of social safety nets, and how that plays into the recent student debt relief - and society’s reactions - from the Biden administration

For more on the GI Bill, listen to Episode 88: Fighting Both Hitler and Jim Crow: Honor Our BIPOC Veterans

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Dear White Women - 121: Coffee and Community with Nirvana Soul
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06/30/21 • 30 min

Let’s face it: we are an app-based, “easy button” based, instant gratification kind of society. One click of a button and we get something brought to our house: food, alcohol, flowers - basically anything you can ask for. If it’s not instant, you can get it for free shipping and in two days if you’re an Amazon Prime member. But, as we’ve often asked on this podcast, what is the true cost of your purchases when you’re getting them through these apps, and not through your community and local store owners?

Today we talk to one of those businesses - and the women behind it. Nirvana Soul isn’t only about providing amazing coffee to the people of San Jose, California - it’s about creating community through shared spaces, carefully curated art, and so much more. Be’Anka and Jeronica opened their doors during a pandemic, but in so doing they brought community to their own community - and that’s priceless. Our ask for you after you listen: go find one of these spaces in your own community, go support them (and for real - not in a performative way), and then tell all your friends to do the same. We rise by lifting others, and we need each other right now more than ever.

Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected]

What to listen for:

  • The journey and process behind opening Nirvana Soul, including the importance of the name
  • What the role of coffee shops is in communities (hint: it’s not just about coffee)
  • What Jeronica and Be’Anka want to share with White women about Nirvana Soul, and supporting local Black-owned businesses
  • The intentionality that they bring into creating community for their staff, and where they see Nirvana Soul going in five and ten years into the future

About Be’Anka and Jeronica:

Jeronica has been in the coffee game for nearly two decades as a barista, manager, and consultant. She knows her sh*t. And Be’Anka is not just a marketer. She’s a methodical, systematic, demand generation marketer who knows a thing or two about successful retail. Their combined experience of coffee and marketing operations is just as much a unique value as their sisterhood itself. Together, they are Nirvana Soul. Using the power of coffee and tea to bring people together.

Where to pre-order Dear White Women: Let’s Get (Un)comfortable Talking About Racism: https://thecollectivebook.studio/dear-white-women

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Dear White Women - 157: All About Great Girlfriends, with Sybil Amuti
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03/08/22 • 40 min

Today is International Women’s Day, which is 8 days into Women’s History Month. So it’s no surprise that we are here with Sybil Amuti, the founder of The Great Girlfriends platform, to talk about friendships, community, and so much more, especially as it relates to women.

This conversation was also a great reminder of two things: (1) we have women in our lives 365 days out of the year, not just 31; and (2) it’s important to include ALL women when we talk about women, as sometimes (and you might have caught this from the title of our show) that definition of women seems to include only White women. So let’s jump in.

What to listen for:

  • The need for there to be groups that support women of color - like Great Girlfriends!
  • How to process the impact that the pandemic has had on relationships, and how we can all begin rebuilding friendships as we navigate through a rebuild
  • What White women should think about as they develop cross-racial friendships
  • Trends Sybil has seen in corporations and their commitments (or not) to DEI

About Sybil:

Sybil Clark Amuti is an executive brand strategist, podcast producer, host, philanthropist, wife, and mother. She holds a B.S. in urban studies from Dillard University and an M.S.in urban planning from Columbia University. For over 15 years, Sybil has delivered world-class strategy and brand direction to some of the world’s most renown personal, corporate, and philanthropic brands, such as Scholastic, Nike, Sony Entertainment, Target, Nascar, Conde Nast, Tony Robbins, Feeding America, Red Table Talk and more. Her company, Legacy Row, is focused on legacy brand building and creating an alliance of like missioned brands who seek to create an impact on a local to a global level.

Sybil also serves as the creator and co-host of The Great Girlfriends Show, a podcast conversation series created to connect women with daily tips and solutions for living a passionate everyday life and building a thriving business. Under her direction, The Great Girlfriends has served over 700,00 women with content and experiences that support their growth journey. She is also the creator and executive producer of The Grace Podcast, which is dedicated to providing practical spiritual development for Christian women.

As a philanthropist, Sybil is passionate about youth mentorship, eradicating hunger, and educational equality for girls around the world. She extends financial support, personal time, and attention to Covenant House and Feeding America.

Sybil is a wife of 15yrs and a mother to 13-year-old old Sam and 10-year-old old Dylan. She resides in California.

For more on Sybil:

https://sybilamuti.com/about-sybil/

About Great Girlfriends:

https://thegreatgirlfriends.com

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Dear White Women currently has 262 episodes available.

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The podcast is about Identity, Society & Culture, Psychology, Podcasts, Self-Improvement, Education, Relationships, Politics and Race.

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The episode title '68: If/When/How: Because Reproductive Justice is Racial Justice' is the most popular.

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The average episode length on Dear White Women is 36 minutes.

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