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71: What If We Radically Shift How We Think About Education? A Conversation with Colin Seale
Dear White Women
08/05/20 • 63 min
As we think about the kids of this country going back to school (or not) in the fall, we can’t help think about how the educational inequality that was already in place is being further exacerbated by the effects of COVID-19.
However, if you take it back before internet connectivity problems and the lack of computer devices to learn from home on, there has always been a problem with equal and easy access to quality education.
We bring you a conversation with Colin Seale, whose biggest mission centers around providing equal access to critical thinking skills by working with teachers, administrators, and parents alike. Hear how every single one of us can make a difference, and how educational opportunities are so intricately linked to racial justice.
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What to listen for:
- Colin’s story of success is based on because of, rather than despite, his upbringing.
- How creating schools within schools - regardless of private or public - create separate but unequal access to educational opportunities.
- The skills that are necessary to go beyond fixing a broken system, but to re-imagine education as it should be.
- How White parents and adults can make a difference today.
For this episode, we spoke with Colin Seale, the founder, and CEO of thinkLaw. Tackling inequity hands-on has always been personal to Colin because the amazing educational opportunities he received in gifted and talented courses and an exclusive specialized high school despite his underprivileged background growing up in Brooklyn, NY made him an exception to a painfully unjust rule. So whether Colin was teaching middle and high school math in Washington, D.C. and Las Vegas, NV, applying his computer science degree and Master’s in Public Administration to fight for child safety at Nevada’s largest child welfare agency, or practicing as a business attorney at one of Las Vegas’ top law firms while representing children in foster care, Colin has always dreamed of a world where stories like his were no longer the exception, but instead, all students had an equal shot at being exceptional. Colin created thinkLaw to give all students access to the type of game-changing critical thinking education they need to not only fully understand the way the world is, but to question it and imagine the way the world ought to be. When he’s not serving as the world’s greatest critical thinking evangelist, Colin proudly serves as the world’s greatest entertainer for his two little kiddos and loving husband to his wife Carrie. His new book Thinking Like a Lawyer: A Framework for Teaching Critical Thinking to All Students came out in April of 2020.
Relevant episodes:
- Ep. 57: It all starts here - educational inequality.
- Ep. 58: The school to prison pipeline - six year old’s don’t belong in handcuffs.
- Ep. 70: From Compton to Oxford, talking with the exceptional Caylin Moore.
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68: If/When/How: Because Reproductive Justice is Racial Justice
Dear White Women
07/15/20 • 41 min
When we think about abortion, we tend to imagine Planned Parenthood and/or providers who offer women’s healthcare in their doctor’s offices. We don’t really think about people who are choosing to self-manage the termination of their pregnancy.
(Side note: what comes to mind when you hear the term “self-managed abortion?” Our jaws dropped when we heard it because we hadn’t considered it outside of coat hangers and back alleys.)
Unfortunately, people who manage their own abortions fall into a legal grey zone, and often, because of the way systemic racism works in this country, they are BIPOC who have a higher chance of being criminally prosecuted for doing something that is, while legal according to Roe v. Wade, sometimes challenged outside of the expected medical setting.
Reproductive justice is racial justice. Listen in to learn more.
Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected]
What to listen for:
- What is a self-managed abortion anyway?
- What are some of the issues when it comes to criminalizing reproductive decision making? Sign a petition here.
- How we need to destigmatize abortion and decriminalize women’s reproductive lives.
- The groundbreaking work If/When/How is doing in spearheading a legal defense fund for reproductive justice.
- Resources people can use, including:
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- a Reproductive Legal Helpline for anybody thinking about a self-managed abortion,
- and the latest state-by-state information on what’s happening in the legal landscape of women’s reproductive rights (with a quick escape button if you need to close the browser immediately).
For this episode, we spoke with Mariko Miki, who is the Managing Director and General Counsel at If/When/How: Lawyering for Reproductive Justice, where she oversees the organization’s programs, people, and policies. Joining If/When/How in 2010, Mariko designed, launched, and directed the Reproductive Justice Fellowship Program, now in its 10th year, and worked to expand reproductive rights and justice course offerings in legal academia. Mariko has served on the Advisory Board of TEACH (Training in Early Abortion for Comprehensive Healthcare) and the Board of Directors for Exhale Pro-Voice, and was a 2019 Rockwood Leadership Reproductive Health, Rights, and Justice Fellow. Mariko graduated from Brown University and Harvard Law School.
Relevant episodes:
- Ep. 46: Our conversation with abortion provider Dr Jenn.
- Ep. 47: The bridge between reproductive rights and health care.
- Ep. 13: Racial disparities in the U.S. healthcare system when it comes to Black moms.
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144: The Sisters Are Alright: Stereotypes Black Women Face, with Tamara Winfrey-Harris
Dear White Women
12/07/21 • 27 min
One of the questions that often has come up around our recent publication of our book (leave us a review on Amazon!) is what it was like to write the book during the end of 2020. And one of the things that always sticks out to us is that the problems, the racism, the treatment of non White people in this country that we wrote about in great detail throughout the book, didn’t get fixed in 2020, or 2021. In fact, every single chapter that we wrote in the second and third sections of the book has reoccurred numerous times over since we wrote the book. We’re not in some post racial world here. We didn’t fix racism because people suddenly realized that it was still happening sometime in the summer of 2020.
And our next guest knows that all too well. Tamara Winfrey-Harris wrote The Sisters Are Alright in 2015, and just released a second edition to this book this year. Not because racism is over, or we figured out intersectional feminism, or that we’re even all on the same page - not at all. The second edition includes so much more information about the stereotypes and experiences of Black women in America, what we need to know when it comes to intersectional feminism, interracial friendships, and simply co-existing with and respecting everyone. In the end, the sisters are alright. But that doesn’t mean that we don’t have a ton of work to do - so start by listening in and reflecting on your own perceptions, experiences, and things YOU can do differently.
Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected]
What to listen for:
- The four stereotypes of Black women, and how they play out in our society today (and take a moment to reflect - do you see any of these yourself?)
- Tamara’s thoughts on if White women can be allies (spoiler alert: YES!), and what allyship really means
- Ways to combat our tendency to lump people into stereotypes, and instead, challenge ourselves to see people’s intersectionalities and identities - their humanity
About Tamara Winfrey-Harris
Tamara Winfrey-Harris is a writer who specializes in race and gender and their intersection with politics, popular culture, and current events. She is the author of Dear Black Girl: Letters from Your Sisters on Stepping into Your Power , and she has been called to share her analyses in media outlets such as NPR's Weekend Edition and Janet Mock's So POPular! on MSNBC.com. Her work has also appeared in countless outlets such as The New York Times, The Atlantic, Los Angeles Times, Bitch Magazine, Ms. and other media. Winfrey-Harris is Vice President of Community Leadership and Effective Philanthropy at the Central Indiana Community Foundation, and she speaks at university campuses nationwide. She has dedicated her life's work to advocating for Black women and girls and defying destructive social narratives that limit their potential. She is co-founder of Centering Sisters, LLC, which unapologetically addresses the needs and issues of Black women, girls, and femmes. Learn more at TamaraWinfreyHarris.com.
Where to order your copy of Dear White Women: Let’s Get (Un)comfortable Talking About Racism: https://thecollectivebook.studio/dear-white-women
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05/20/20 • 45 min
PLEASE NOTE: This episode was recorded after Ahmaud Arbery's killing but before George Floyd's murder.
Sara and Misasha are excited to welcome Antonio Wint to the show.
Antonio is a neighbor, father, and black man in a position of leadership with a diverse employee base who happens to enjoy running. In light of everything, Sara and Misasha wanted to hear his personal experiences and thoughts on how to talk with kids about a sport that has potentially dangerous consequences for the black population.
Listen in to this thoughtful conversation for tips on encouraging age-appropriate conversation, respect, and tolerance for all.
Show Highlights:
- Antonio describes how he has had age-appropriate conversations about discipline and respecting authority with his son, who is now 10, over the years.
- As a black male, he is raising his son to respect authority, and respecting authority starts in the home first.
- The older his son has gotten, Antonio has been explaining relationships, and how the respect he shows to his parents at home must translate to law officers outside of the home.
- Shows that have helped facilitate some of their conversations are “Black-ish” and “Mixed-ish”.
- It’s emotional and tough to tell your child that some people will find your very presence threatening.
- How to talk about the shooting of Ahmaud Arbery.
- Antonio discusses ways for us all to be more mindful of discrimination and teach tolerance.
- Antonio describes his experiences with running and what he does to mitigate any potential problems.
- Antonio shares how he handled a tense situation with a lurker in his neighborhood.
- The differences between growing up in a black neighborhood and choosing to live in a white neighborhood as a black.
- How using the COVID-19 event can have a positive impact on the health of the black community going forward.
- Let your neighbors know that they are not in this alone.
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73: How to Be a Wallet Feminist
Dear White Women
08/19/20 • 25 min
If every person in the U.S. spent just $20 at a woman-owned business, it would drive more than five billion dollars towards female-led companies each month.
You’ve heard us talking on the show about how strongly we believe in the power of voting - both voting voting, which we’ll talk about on a later episode, and with your wallet. And we REALLY believe in women supporting women, all around.
This is where Dough comes in.
Motivated by the tremendous wallet power of female shoppers, and the fact that women influence 80% of consumer spending, Anna Palmer and Vanessa Bruce founded Dough, an online curated marketplace, to make it easy for women-led brands to connect with like-minded shoppers, and for wallet feminists to easily find and support women-owned businesses. And these women-led brands include a whole range of women, all shades, and identities.
Talk about powerful. AND where we should all be planning to do our holiday shopping.
Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected]
What to listen for:
- The why behind the founding of Dough
- How the company has had to pivot during COVID
- The variety of hashtags on Dough supporting a variety of women in business, including #Blackgirlmagic, #Browngirlmagic, #Asiangirlmagic, and #notonAmazon
- Dough’s vision for the future
Where can you shop Dough? www.joindough.com
Twitter: @atjoindough
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63: How To Be An Ally, Even When You Feel Overwhelmed
Dear White Women
06/10/20 • 47 min
Right now, during COVID, as #blacklivesmatter has (finally) picked up steam among white people, there is a lot to process – both intellectually and emotionally.
The anti-racism resources that are flooding our social media streams and filling our inboxes are so powerful, so well-intentioned, and helpful. Yet if this is anything like what we’re expecting to happen, soon, what we’re calling White Fatigue might set in for some people out there.
This episode is dedicated to pushing through the discomfort, committing to the fight, and includes a special bonus at the end: an anti-racism breathwork experience from Jenny Peni, to help you process and feel a little more grounded and able to do what you need to do.
Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected]
What to listen for:
- White fatigue. It’s what we’re calling the effect of the incredible yet overwhelming amount of resources, suggestions, and places to support that are emerging now.
- How people in a position of influence can undermine the effort by deflecting. Hear our thoughts on Drew Brees, and why we agree this was never about the flag.
- What we might be doing that can help, or hurt, the people we run into in the supermarket.
- The difference between an ally and a co-conspirator – and which we want to be.
- A few tips and our resources on how to move from “not racist” to being anti-racist, including how to talk to your kids about race.
- Want to make this sustainable? Weigh in on whether it would help if we created a weekly calendar of short things to do or read or watch, so you don’t have to weed through the overwhelm all by yourself.
PLUS, support us through Patreon! At that link, you’ll learn about the virtual community we are launching – and you’re welcome to join.
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244: Why We Need to Take Trump At His Word (Don't Look Away)
Dear White Women
04/23/24 • 38 min
You know that person you know - the one who exaggerates everything?
It’s kind of like that story of the blameless “boy who cried wolf” who lives in fantasy land and never takes responsibility for anything - and this person seemingly has not only the best life anyone could ever imagine, with loads of money, tons of friends, amazing vacations, but also, nothing ever seems to go wrong? (Instagram is a drug, friends).
Now imagine that friend is running (again) for President of the United States.
And that friend is bringing that energy into the race in the most destructive, divisive way possible, in which he’s only out for himself - which his statements prove every.single.day.
Those statements that you would roll your eyes at and dismiss? Now, you no longer can, because those statements tell you who he is, and exactly what he plans to do if he gets re-elected (spoiler alert: it’s going to be hugely destructive to our lives as we know them, and most, if not all, of our freedoms that we take for granted.).
You guessed it - we’re talking about Trump, and why we need to take him at his word. In other words, even though it’s painful - don’t look away.
He’s giving us the blueprint of how a Trump presidency would be, and not only is it worse than last time, it will destroy our democracy and our freedom along with it.
What to listen for?
- Why we think the risk of having Trump in a second term is FAR more dangerous than having Biden.
- Looking specifically at the harms that will befall our country because of things like his views on:
- Immigration and making America a white-supremacist-centered nation,
- Ukraine and what that says about his desire to pander to the influence of outside nations,
- His hatred of the press and what that indicates about his desire to turn America into an authoritarian state,
- Violence, and how a deeper threat of control and violence will eventually impact every American citizen
- Abortion, and what this means for every woman, mother, and person capable of bearing a child, including families overall.
- Do not look away from the massive threat Trump poses for our country.
Link to Trump’s Authoritarian Playbook 2025: https://www.authoritarianplaybook2025.org/
Resources:
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43: Let’s Talk About Rights
Dear White Women
01/22/20 • 44 min
The progress of obtaining and maintaining women’s rights is not linear. Reproductive rights in the United States are focused on efforts to get and defend the legal right to abortion, and these efforts are led by predominantly white women.
What little information is provided about women of color with regard to reproductive rights tends to center on the abuses they have suffered and represents only a partial history. Most of the reproductive health organizing done by women of color in the United States has been undocumented, unanalyzed, and unacknowledged.
They will be unpacking the book, Undivided Rights: Women of Color Organize for Reproductive Justice, which highlights the role of women of color in advocating for their own interests, largely because they face very different and specific issues regarding reproductive rights that are not faced by white women.
In this second part about women’s rights, Sara and Misasha are here today to challenge the narratives!
Show Highlights:
- As regards reproductive rights, white women tend to focus on abortion, whereas women of color tend to look at it more broadly.
- Sterilization in exchange for benefits and forced abortion are very real experiences in the lives of women of color.
- Choice plays a big role in rights. Choice includes “the choice to determine whether or not to have children, the choice to terminate a pregnancy, and the ability to making informed choices about contraceptive and reproductive technologies”, according to book co-author, Jael Silliman.
- Choice implies options and that a woman’s right to determine what happens to her body is legally protected. For women of color, this ignores the fact that economic and institutional constraints often restrict their choices.
- It’s important for health providers to have a cultural competency, which is an understanding and respect for the cultures, traditions, and practices of a community.
- Opposition to welfare and commitment to reduce welfare roles by supplying free birth control services to poor women were joined in a race and class direct social policy.
- The link between coercive birth control and racism was overtly expressed by Louisiana judge, Leander Perez, in 1965 when he stated that the best way to hate a black man is to hate him before he is born.
- Sara and Misasha provide some horrendous statistics regarding forced sterilizations against women of color in the 20th century.
- Sara offers an exercise for white women to help them understand the differences in experience.
- Stereotypes and myths: harmful and still working against women of color.
- Cisgender white people have not recognized themselves as an identity group because they assume their identity to be the universal norm.
- Many white women organizing for reproductive rights assume that their agenda includes all women because of their own white women experience.
- In 2000 the Institute for Women & Ethnic Studies in New Orleans put forth a “Reproductive Health Bill of Rights” which, in part, reads: “All people are born free and equal with dignity and rights set forth in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Historically, women of color across nations, cultures, and different religious and ethnic groups have been subject to racist exploitation, discrimination, and abuse. Manipulative, coercive, and punitive health policies and practices deprive women of color of their fundamental human rights and dignity.”
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Books Mentioned:
Undivided Rights: Women of Color Organize for Reproductive Justice by Jael Silliman, Marlene Gerber Fried, Loretta Ross, and Elena Gutierrez
Who Are We? The Challenges to America’s National Identity by Samuel P. Huntington
262: Farewell 2024, Hello 2025
Dear White Women
12/31/24 • 23 min
Tomorrow, we’ll be wishing our loved ones “akemashite omedetou gozaimasu” - or, Happy New Year, in Japanese. If you’re a long-time listener, you know that DEI work (or whatever we’ll be calling it going forward) is personal to us. We’re both the daughters of a Japanese immigrant parent and a white American parent each; the ideas of multiculturalism and difference are embedded in our DNA, and we were raised to have respect not only for our own diverse histories, but those of all others in the world - after all, we’re each only one of 8 billion people in the world, and you bet that everyone has their own story, their own way of living, thinking, and being in our society.
On top of that, let’s be clear about our chosen families. Misasha is married to a Black man and has two very multiethnic sons who are Black Japanese, and white. We’ve spent years laying the groundwork to help you understand anti-Black racism, deconstruct the model minority myth, and more. Let us be clear - we do this work because if even one person reading, has an a-ha moment and changes their actions, or talks to someone about something they learned here which changes *their* actions - so Misasha’s boys can come home safe at night, or so you make decisions that might potentially improve or even save the lives of children who look like them - then we will have been successful. Sara is married to a white Canadian man and has two teenage girls the world presumes to be white. Doing the work to challenge our own assumptions about other people matters to us because not everybody is what they seem. Standing against anti-immigration sentiment matters to us; understanding the link between systems of oppression that hurt not only Black people, but neurodivergent people, females, and so many others is critically important to us as well.
So far, we have hosted 262 episodes of the Dear White Women podcast because helping people listen, learn, and act differently to help uproot systemic racism is what we need to make the world truly equitable for ALL of us - this is the foundation, the work starts here. And we cannot do it without your help.
In 2025, we’ll be speaking to organizations - schools, companies, ERGs, and more - about two topics we think are critically important at this point in history:
- Why equity and inclusion matters now more than ever - the psychology of belonging
- How to have difficult conversations.
If you have groups you think would benefit, or know people who could hire us in their organizations, please connect us. You can reach us at [email protected] anytime.
What else to listen for:
- Reflecting on the most surprising and memorable parts of 2024
- Our thoughts on the kakistocracy - the Economist’s word of the year meaning, the rule of the worst.
- And where we go from here in 2025...
64: The Why Behind Trump’s Juneteenth Rally
Dear White Women
06/17/20 • 19 min
We had to postpone our pre-scheduled episode on the importance of voting to bring you this critically-timed conversation on President Trump’s decision to return to the campaign trail on Juneteenth in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Without knowing the history and significance of both of these things, you might just think, oh well, he’s hoping 300,000 people gather without masks to support his next bid for Presidency - that’s not so smart.
But if you know the history, you realize it is way worse than that.
Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected]
What to listen for:
- What is the significance of Juneteenth? The freeing of slaves in Texas.
- How we were not taught the full truth about President Abraham Lincoln’s motivation for ending slavery.
- How the history of the Tulsa Massacre was erased.
- And... how President Trump “coincidentally” picked both Juneteenth AND Tulsa as the site of his return to the campaign trail.
- Can you think critically about this choice, and what it might mean for propagating hate?
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Dear White Women currently has 272 episodes available.
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The podcast is about Identity, Society & Culture, Psychology, Podcasts, Self-Improvement, Education, Relationships, Politics and Race.
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The episode title '68: If/When/How: Because Reproductive Justice is Racial Justice' is the most popular.
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