014 - The Fallacy of Only One Correct Course of Action in De-Escalation - with Adam Kinakin

06/13/23 • 46 min

On this episode of De-Escalation Conversations podcast, host Kerry Mensior speaks with guest Adam Kinakin about the importance of De-Escalation tactics in Law Enforcement.
We discuss the connection between appearance and success in personal and professional development, and the totality of circumstances involved in using force. Adam shares a personal experience and emphasizes the need for better education and communication with the public about the challenges of Law Enforcement.
Additionally, we discuss the importance of training and planning for success in high-pressure situations. Later in the episode, they shift focus to the value of collaboration, partnerships, and shared mission and values in achieving social impact. Tune in for insight on De-Escalation tactics and creating meaningful partnerships.
[00:01:34] De-Escalation is misunderstood. Communication is crucial, but De-Escalation involves minimizing harm, and phrasing it as a catch-all term causes confusion.

[00:07:38] Discussion on using scientific data to understand human behavior, including De-Escalation and verbal judo techniques. Emphasis on individual variance and need to educate the public on realistic outcomes in Law Enforcement. Importance of Officer appearance and behavior in leaving positive impressions on civilians.

[00:12:46] Appearance and presentation play a vital role in situations such as De-Escalation scenarios, and officers need to consider every aspect of the circumstance for success.

[00:20:12] Fluid decision-making in training scenarios, with instructors allowing leeway, improves outcomes. Scenarios should not be pass/fail as the world is more complex. Every human being is different, and instructors should let officers make decisions within their understanding.

[00:26:36] Jim was a new Sergeant in a situation with a suspect barricaded in a bathroom with knives; he De-Escalated the situation and got the suspect to surrender peacefully.

[00:30:06] Pre-planning and training greatly increase chances of success in dangerous situations, such as combat patrols or law enforcement. Practice and rehearsals are necessary to achieve desired responses. The lesson applies to all situations, including the behavior of new officers.

[00:36:52] Police training budgets are often the first to be cut, leading to outdated restrictions on training hours. Training silos are also a problem, but interleaving techniques can help.

[00:42:10] Trust, values, mission, feasible goals, and ethics are the driving factors of choosing who to work with. Profit is a byproduct of doing the right thing. ILET has a culture of dedicated members with the goal of making the world a better place.

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[00:12:46] Appearance and presentation play a vital role in situations such as De-Escalation scenarios, and officers need to consider every aspect of the circumstance for success.

[00:26:36] Jim was a new Sergeant in a situation with a suspect barricaded in a bathroom with knives; he De-Escalated the situation and got the suspect to surrender peacefully.

[00:36:52] Police training budgets are often the first to be cut, leading to outdated restrictions on training hours. Training silos are also a problem, but interleaving techniques can help.

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013 - Insights on Interleaving During Training - with Jason Der

On this episode of De-Escalation Conversations, Kerry Mensior and Jason Der discuss the importance of evidence-based teaching and continuous feedback.
Jason shares his experience as Law Enforcement Officer and Instructor, and emphasizes the benefits of incorporating techniques such as peer learning and the concept of interleaving, which involves mixing up different skills to improve overall performance in the long run.
The episode highlights the importance of setting expectations and having a flexible lesson plan when using this method, as well as providing ongoing feedback to track progress and make necessary changes to teaching methods.
Key takeaways include the significance of continuous feedback, incorporating important skills, and why cramming for exams may limit retention and recall of information.

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015 - Encouraging Curiosity: The Link Between Learning and Growth - with Ken Murray

On this episode of De-Escalation Conversations, the focus is on the variety of topics covered with Ken Murray. Ken shares his insights and experiences on fear, behavior shaping, PTSD, and the importance of slowing down to assess progress.
We also discuss the evolution of Ken's company SIMUNITION , critical incidents in law enforcement, and the '8 Can't Wait' movement.
Ken speaker shares his personal journey that led to him attending the ILEETA conference and emphasizes that extrinsic motivation is not always the best motivator for people in the job.
Tune in to hear Ken's fascinating perspective on these topics and more.
Ken Murray is Author of Training at the Speed of Life - the Definitive Textbook for Police and Military Reality Based Training. He's the original co-founder of SIMUNITION, and he's been developing Best Practices for experiential training and safe creation of scenario training environments for over three decades, ensuring both physical AND emotional safety in training.
He's a Master Practitioner of Neurolinguistic Programming and Ericksonian Hypnosis. His books and training classes are available at his website, and he is available for custom classes, corporate consulting and expert witness work.
One of the awesome people at the ILEETA Conference this year, who was gracious enough to sit down and have a chat with me, was Ken Murray. He always makes me laugh and he always has unique insights. He has a great way of breaking down complex subjects into easy to understand principals.
As the Robin Hood of Public Safety, taking the wisdom from those that have it and bringing it to those that need it, YOU, here's our De-Escalation Conversation and in it is Ken's wisdom! I KNOW you're going to enjoy hearing from him! Enjoy the show!
Keep in Touch with Ken Murray:
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