S1Ep03. Inclusion or Bust?: Discussing Inclusive Nationalism with Daveed Gartenstein-Ross part 2

09/08/21 • 27 min

⚠️ Reflection after 20 years of 9/11: We are at a time of profound tension. 00:36
🤔 We need outside-of-the-box thinking, but a controversial view of virtually anything in 2021 can cost you your job and professional status, and that is not healthy. 03:30
🗽 Buiding inclusive nationalism and challenges around it: It's important that we have a national identity that we're proud of. 06:01
🤓 Moving forward: the raising of the right values, reducing polarization, diversity, openness within generations, and what are the KPIs? 09:41
😇 KPIs for measuring inclusive nationalism: A sense of national pride and acceptance of people with different views. 12:57
🔊 US-ness as a critical KPI: the noise of data surrounding us is a big challenge to overcome. 15:27
🌞 We need hope, for an inclusive future, for our nation. 18:03
🙌 Takeaways: Ownership, humanizing others, and taking other opinions in. 20:45
🤩Transactional is not the same thing as transcendent. Togetherness isn't just some handout. 25:46

👉 Connect with Daveed:
https://valensglobal.com/who-we-are/#team
https://www.fdd.org/issue/domestic-extremism/

📰 Daveed’s Articles:
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2021/06/14/skinheads-saints-and-national-socialists/
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2021/06/14/behind-the-black-bloc/

👍 Connect with Mark, Andrew, and Courtney.
🙃 Mark Fedeli
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/markfedeli
Twitter: @markfedeli
☀️ Andrew Churchill
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/fachurchill/
Twitter: @FAChurchill
🤓 Courtney Hastings:
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/courtneyhastings
Twitter: @chatrhstrategic

👉 Connect with Daveed:
https://valensglobal.com/who-we-are/#team
https://www.fdd.org/issue/domestic-extremism/

📰 Daveed’s Articles:
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2021/06/14/skinheads-saints-and-national-socialists/
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2021/06/14/behind-the-black-bloc/

Previous Episode

S1Ep02. Inclusion or Bust?: Discussing Domestic Violent Extremists (DVEs) with Daveed Gartenstein-Ross

👉 Reflection and activation: 20 years after 9/11. 00:35

🧐 Politics is a profound tension, a tension between competing ideals and values. 01:20

💬 Data related to domestic violent extremism.03:12

👋 Welcome, Dr. Daveed! 04:15

🤔 DVE’s are a growing challenge and wrong usage of data. 06:06

🖥️ Daveed and Mark ‘met’ via a counterterrorism blog in 2005. 08:59

😮‍💨 Mark’s experience on 9/11 and the vivid memories that have lasted. 6:48

🏛️ Andrew was at a conference in Baltimore with the Social Security Administration and his work with the government after 9/11. 11:06

✌️ Courtney was a senior in college and eventually began working on interoperability issues that caused the death of so many first responders during 9/11. 12:16

⚖️ Daveed was in law school at NYU, and 9/11 interrupted the course of his life and career. 13:09

6️⃣ A positive outlook: Six things that have gone right tactically after 9/11/2001. 16:15

📱 Post January 6th: the maturation of technologically empowered mobilization. 21:11

🗣️ Social media can be used to not only mobilize movements quickly but also to predict actions and help prevent them. 25:12

↔️ Daveed’s papers and overviews of Militant Anarchism and Anti-Fascism and the Transnational White Supremacist Extremist Movement. 26:30

🇺🇸 Militant anti-fascists and anarchists in the United States and predictions for the future. 29:46

❗ Drifting to extremes: Our reactions are immediate and based on scant information on social media. 31:44

🤓 The quality of the information we all receive: basic critical thinking skills and media literacy are crucial now. 35:39

Articles mentioned:

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2021/06/14/skinheads-saints-and-national-socialists/

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2021/06/14/behind-the-black-bloc/

Connect with Daveed:

https://valensglobal.com/who-we-are/#team

https://www.fdd.org/issue/domestic-extremism/

Connect with Mark, Andrew, and Courtney.

Mark Fedeli

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/markfedeli

Twitter: @markfedeli

Andrew Churchill

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/fachurchill/

Twitter: @FAChurchill

Courtney Hastings:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/courtneyhastings

Twitter: @chatrhstrategic

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S1Ep04. An Inflection Point in Data with Chris Wilson

Welcome, Chris. 02:20

Chris’s career journey: Joined the army, his time in active duty, and his work with the Threat Reduction Agenecy.03:29

Going to Stratcom, the Missile Defense Agency, USSTRATCOM, and the Qlick Federal team.06:12

Defense industrial base manufacturers ensure supply chains because any issue can cause an immediate impact on real-world missions. 08:36

Experiencing 9/11 at a Superfund site and his unit’s work.10:26

Impactful things after 9/11: the communication expedition for data and communication between federal agencies and across different systems. 15:19

How do you measure interoperability: being able to communicate with the data in different mission sets. 19:51

Having everyone operating from a single source of truth is crucial. 21:50

How do we protect individual rights while protecting the sovereignty of the nation and society as a collective? 24:07

Importance of leadership in bringing data across the multitude of agencies systems and operational domains 30:32

Are we at a point where we can visualize information in these sort of ‘war rooms’ like in the movies? 34:05

Two driving forces are the functionals leading up by highlighting what we don't know and top parts of government leading down by saying, ‘This is where we have to get to.’ 36:30

Suicide and sexual harassment prevention examples. 39:13

Building teams around data and the role of the translator who sits between the data scientist and the business or mission owner. 44:21

From a leadership standpoint if you're going to lead up you want translators on your team. 46:18

Define success: what are you looking to achieve? 47:39

Chris’ AHA moment: Key thing to touch on in the future is data literacy. 49:39

Connect with Chris Wilson

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopher-wilson-pmp-45993a3

Connect with Mark, Andrew, and Courtney.

Mark Fedeli

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/markfedeli

Twitter: @markfedeli

Andrew Churchill