
Mass Vaccination and Natural Immunity: Bret Speaks with Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche
06/16/22 • 123 min
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Bret speaks with Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche in Bath, England, together for the COVID Better Way Conference 2022.
Geert Vanden Bossche is a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine who has specialist expertise in virology and vaccinology, Geert has worked in industry in the construction of vaccines, and in the non profit sector working to bring immunity to larger numbers of people.
Find Geert:
https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/
https://twitter.com/GVDBossche
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_yhGQiJ5lTmOaoIQA91GzA
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First DarkHorse Podcast with Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche:
https://youtu.be/BNyAovuUxro
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(02:10) Previous predictions
(08:06) Mass vaccination during a pandemic
(14:40) Sterilizing immunity
(17:44) T-Cell immunity
(25:52) Narrow immunity to one antigen
(36:05) Selection of vaccine-immune escaped variants
(38:43) Why are we still mass vaccinating with same antigen?
(45:20) Where would we be without the vaccines?
(52:41) Spanish Flu and natural immunity
(57:53) Why innate immunity decays
(01:07:28) Non neutralizing antibodies binding to the spike
(01:13:35) Seasonality and age
(01:18:02) Geert’s hypothesis on ivermectin dosage increase
(01:23:07) Will the virus transmit outside?
(01:27:23) Where are we now in this pandemic?
(01:35:03) Geert’s hypothesis
(01:41:33) Bret breaks down Geert’s hypothesis
(01:47:37) A new phase of the pandemic
(01:56:28) Advice to the world
(02:02:05) Wrap up
Bret speaks with Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche in Bath, England, together for the COVID Better Way Conference 2022.
Geert Vanden Bossche is a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine who has specialist expertise in virology and vaccinology, Geert has worked in industry in the construction of vaccines, and in the non profit sector working to bring immunity to larger numbers of people.
Find Geert:
https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/
https://twitter.com/GVDBossche
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_yhGQiJ5lTmOaoIQA91GzA
*****
Find Bret Weinstein on Twitter: @BretWeinstein, and on Patreon.
https://www.patreon.com/bretweinstein
Please subscribe to this channel for more long form content like this, and subscribe to the clips channel @DarkHorse Podcast Clips for short clips of all our podcasts:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAWCKUrmvK5F_ynBY_CMlIA
All removed videos can be found on Spotify Video and Odysee: https://open.spotify.com/show/57R7dOcs60jUfOnuNG0J1R
https://odysee.com/@BretWeinstein:f
Check out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: http://www.store.darkhorsepodcast.org
Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.
*****
First DarkHorse Podcast with Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche:
https://youtu.be/BNyAovuUxro
*****
Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(02:10) Previous predictions
(08:06) Mass vaccination during a pandemic
(14:40) Sterilizing immunity
(17:44) T-Cell immunity
(25:52) Narrow immunity to one antigen
(36:05) Selection of vaccine-immune escaped variants
(38:43) Why are we still mass vaccinating with same antigen?
(45:20) Where would we be without the vaccines?
(52:41) Spanish Flu and natural immunity
(57:53) Why innate immunity decays
(01:07:28) Non neutralizing antibodies binding to the spike
(01:13:35) Seasonality and age
(01:18:02) Geert’s hypothesis on ivermectin dosage increase
(01:23:07) Will the virus transmit outside?
(01:27:23) Where are we now in this pandemic?
(01:35:03) Geert’s hypothesis
(01:41:33) Bret breaks down Geert’s hypothesis
(01:47:37) A new phase of the pandemic
(01:56:28) Advice to the world
(02:02:05) Wrap up
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This week, we discuss the state of Portland, Oregon, two years after protests and riots made a mess of the city. Still found on the streets: entreaties to abolish the police, and protect “black trans sex workers,” and to attend a pride brunch that is actually a “drag queen brunch.” And yet when you talk to people, you almost invariably find that the veneer on the surface is not what it seems. Few people seem to agree with the coerced consensus: that letting people camp and shoot up and defecate on sidewalks is being compassionate to them; or that men can become women. We discuss whether a minority’s self-declared rights should be allowed to infringe on already established rights of others. And we discuss the self-assembly of rackets to fill niches—such as Covid testing centers that are both lucrative for those running them, and mandatory to participate in activities like international travel, and camp.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Pride Brunch: https://events.humanitix.com/pride-drag-brunch
News from Reuters this week: https://twitter.com/i/events/1534530310607499264
Mice, telomeres, senescence and cancer, all in one place (Weinstein and Ciszek 2002): http://176.9.41.242/docs/longevity/2002-weinstein.pdf
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In this 131st in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.
This week, we discuss why so many things, in modernity, and right now in particular, are labeled the opposite of what they truly are. What we are told is safe, is toxic; we are told we must do, we should not. How did this happen? Beginning with a tale of scientific discovery in the 1990s and early 2000s—involving telomeres and cancer and senescence and mice—we arrive at one answer: if the powers-that-be have insight, they are better served by keeping that insight to themselves, by refusing to share it. And so: all the newspapers, all the universities, all the everything, are failing. We also discuss baby formula—why you might want or need it, and share a recipe from a naturopath that will be far better than anything you can (or cannot) find on the shelves. And we discuss fathers: genetic fatherhood, biological fatherhood, cultural fatherhood. There are many ways to be a good father.
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Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, and signed copies are available here: https://darvillsbookstore.indielite.org
Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://store.darkhorsepodcast.org
Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com
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Q&A Link: https://odysee.com/EvoLens131QandA:eeb46459ec6ced74436f7a852e3f9e57a5c525c0
Mentioned in this episode:
Paris Brest Paris bike race: https://rusa.org/pages/pbp
Le Tour de France: It’s like bike racing on steroids: https://teespring.com/le-tour-de-france-2022?tsmac=store&tsmic=dark-horse-podcast&pid=46&cid=2755
Abigail Shrier’s 2021 book, Irreversible Damage: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/irreversible-damage-abigail-shrier/1133754701
Lahti, D.C. and Weinstein, B.S., 2005. The better angels of our nature: Group stability and the evolution of moral tension. Evolution and Human Behavior, 26(1): 47-63. https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-better-angels-of-our-nature%3A-group-stability-of-Lahti-Weinstein/c5669ae3f2b5ba89967ab466b1095ab9c6d99c8c
Mice, telomeres, senescence and cancer, all in one place (Weinstein and Ciszek 2002): http://176.9.41.242/docs/longevity/2002-weinstein.pdf
Baby formula recipe from Dr. Lockwood: https://terrainwellness.com/diy-baby-formula-recipe/
Orwell, 1937. The Road to Wigan Pier. https://files.libcom.org/files/wiganpier.pdf
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