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CX Champions - Mastering CX: Shep Hyken's Guide to Exceptional Customer Interactions

Mastering CX: Shep Hyken's Guide to Exceptional Customer Interactions

04/25/24 • 47 min

CX Champions

This episode features an interview with Shep Hyken, Chief Amazement Officer at Shepard Presentations, LLC. Shep is a New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestselling author, and has been inducted into the National Speakers Association Hall of Fame for lifetime achievement in the speaking profession. He has helped companies like American Airlines, AT&T, and American Express build loyal relationships with their customers and employees. And in this episode, Shep shares insights on creating memorable customer experiences in a digital-first world. He discusses the importance of prompt, personal, and positive customer interactions, leveraging AI to enhance the customer experience, and the significance of both digital and human elements in customer service. Shep also explains his five-step process for handling customer issues—acknowledge, apologize, resolve, own, and act with urgency. He highlights the changing dynamics of customer loyalty programs, the impact of business decisions on customer loyalty, and the importance of employee experience in delivering exceptional customer service. The conversation delves into various aspects of CX, including self-service options, the dangers of commoditization, and the future trends in customer experience.

Quotes

*”I call it the customer hierarchy of needs. This is what companies want customers to experience. At the base of that pyramid, just like Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, you have products that do what they're supposed to do. But as you move up to the tip of the pyramid, you eventually get to fulfillment and emotional connection. And when you are emotionally connected to the brand, then you feel like, ‘Why would I want to go anywhere else? Why would I take a chance on anywhere else? I love the way this brand makes me feel.’ That's emotion.”

*”For AI to be effective, the customer has to enjoy the experience. In order to get the customer to enjoy the experience, sometimes you have to tell the customer that the experience is even there to begin with.”

*”The Ikea effect, which has been around, is basically that somebody that puts together their own furniture feels more pride in it. So when a customer resolves their own issue, thanks to AI, They feel really good when an agent is able to use this type of technology to create a better experience for the customer. They feel great as well.”

*”A part of customer experience is also being able to do damage and risk control. Number one, we must acknowledge the problem. Number two, we must apologize. And by the way, you can apologize first and acknowledge second. I don't care. As long as those two things start the conversation. Number three, understand what the problem is. You may have to ask questions, but you get to a point where you discuss the resolution. Either you're fixing it on the spot or you're discussing what's going to happen. Number four, the attitude that you must show that customer is one of you owning the situation, even if you're not in it. If you're not even the person that might take care of it, at least at that moment, you've got to make this customer feel like you're in control. And then finally, you act with urgency. Speed is really important. You need to get to the resolution as quickly as possible,”

*”It's a byproduct of what happens when you start to go into a company and try to create a better product: Customer experience. You have to focus on your employee experience at the same time. And oftentimes a byproduct of working on an overall customer experience is employees become more fulfilled and you'll see turnover drop as a result. That's a very powerful thing because number one, you don't have to hire new people. And the cost of hiring and training is so high sometimes that it really makes financial sense to even try to barely impact the experience because the benefit to the internal experience is so strong.”

Time Stamps

[0:44] Spotlight on Shep Hyken: CX Visionary

[1:43] Diving Into Shep's Book: I'll Be Back

[3:33] The Power of Customer Loyalty and Experience

[6:45] Shep Hyken's Journey into Customer Experience

[8:09] Exploring the Evolution of Customer Experience

[11:13] The Impact of AI on Customer Experience

[13:14] Navigating Customer Experience in the Digital Age

[22:03] Shep's Five Steps for Handling Customer Issues

[24:59] Mastering Customer Service: A Real-Life Example

[32:48] The Power of Customer Loyalty Programs and the Impact of Changes

[36:39] Shep Hyken's Influence and Insights on Customer Experience

[41:34] Predicting the Future of Customer Experience

[44:15] Magic in Customer Experience

[46:33] Shep Hyken's Impact on CX

About our guest, Shep Hyken

Shep Hyken is a customer service and experience expert and the Chief Amazement Officer of Shepard Presentations. He is a New York Times an...

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This episode features an interview with Shep Hyken, Chief Amazement Officer at Shepard Presentations, LLC. Shep is a New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestselling author, and has been inducted into the National Speakers Association Hall of Fame for lifetime achievement in the speaking profession. He has helped companies like American Airlines, AT&T, and American Express build loyal relationships with their customers and employees. And in this episode, Shep shares insights on creating memorable customer experiences in a digital-first world. He discusses the importance of prompt, personal, and positive customer interactions, leveraging AI to enhance the customer experience, and the significance of both digital and human elements in customer service. Shep also explains his five-step process for handling customer issues—acknowledge, apologize, resolve, own, and act with urgency. He highlights the changing dynamics of customer loyalty programs, the impact of business decisions on customer loyalty, and the importance of employee experience in delivering exceptional customer service. The conversation delves into various aspects of CX, including self-service options, the dangers of commoditization, and the future trends in customer experience.

Quotes

*”I call it the customer hierarchy of needs. This is what companies want customers to experience. At the base of that pyramid, just like Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, you have products that do what they're supposed to do. But as you move up to the tip of the pyramid, you eventually get to fulfillment and emotional connection. And when you are emotionally connected to the brand, then you feel like, ‘Why would I want to go anywhere else? Why would I take a chance on anywhere else? I love the way this brand makes me feel.’ That's emotion.”

*”For AI to be effective, the customer has to enjoy the experience. In order to get the customer to enjoy the experience, sometimes you have to tell the customer that the experience is even there to begin with.”

*”The Ikea effect, which has been around, is basically that somebody that puts together their own furniture feels more pride in it. So when a customer resolves their own issue, thanks to AI, They feel really good when an agent is able to use this type of technology to create a better experience for the customer. They feel great as well.”

*”A part of customer experience is also being able to do damage and risk control. Number one, we must acknowledge the problem. Number two, we must apologize. And by the way, you can apologize first and acknowledge second. I don't care. As long as those two things start the conversation. Number three, understand what the problem is. You may have to ask questions, but you get to a point where you discuss the resolution. Either you're fixing it on the spot or you're discussing what's going to happen. Number four, the attitude that you must show that customer is one of you owning the situation, even if you're not in it. If you're not even the person that might take care of it, at least at that moment, you've got to make this customer feel like you're in control. And then finally, you act with urgency. Speed is really important. You need to get to the resolution as quickly as possible,”

*”It's a byproduct of what happens when you start to go into a company and try to create a better product: Customer experience. You have to focus on your employee experience at the same time. And oftentimes a byproduct of working on an overall customer experience is employees become more fulfilled and you'll see turnover drop as a result. That's a very powerful thing because number one, you don't have to hire new people. And the cost of hiring and training is so high sometimes that it really makes financial sense to even try to barely impact the experience because the benefit to the internal experience is so strong.”

Time Stamps

[0:44] Spotlight on Shep Hyken: CX Visionary

[1:43] Diving Into Shep's Book: I'll Be Back

[3:33] The Power of Customer Loyalty and Experience

[6:45] Shep Hyken's Journey into Customer Experience

[8:09] Exploring the Evolution of Customer Experience

[11:13] The Impact of AI on Customer Experience

[13:14] Navigating Customer Experience in the Digital Age

[22:03] Shep's Five Steps for Handling Customer Issues

[24:59] Mastering Customer Service: A Real-Life Example

[32:48] The Power of Customer Loyalty Programs and the Impact of Changes

[36:39] Shep Hyken's Influence and Insights on Customer Experience

[41:34] Predicting the Future of Customer Experience

[44:15] Magic in Customer Experience

[46:33] Shep Hyken's Impact on CX

About our guest, Shep Hyken

Shep Hyken is a customer service and experience expert and the Chief Amazement Officer of Shepard Presentations. He is a New York Times an...

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This episode features an interview with Christian Mitchell, EVP & Chief Customer Officer at Northwestern Mutual. Christian works to elevate the customer experience and deliver bold solutions to set Northwestern Mutual ahead of its competitors. And over his 18-year tenure at Northwestern mutual, he has served in a variety of leadership roles, including as president of their Wealth Management Company when he managed $129 billion in client assets. Host Sohaib Ahmed discusses with Mitchell his journey and various roles at Northwestern Mutual over 18 years, alongside his insights into building memorable customer experiences. They delve into how Northwestern Mutual integrates technology to enhance customer experiences while maintaining a human-centric approach. Mitchell shares his perspective on the evolving customer expectations, the future of customer experience (CX), including the potential impact of generative AI, and the significance of consistency in delivering great CX. Additionally, the importance of data privacy, the challenges of implementing new technologies, and the role of storytelling in reshaping company culture towards more client-centric values are covered.

Quotes

*”The financial services marketplace is complex. I really think you need to understand that holistic landscape in order to take all of that and fashion it into an incredible client experience. If you don't have that holistic understanding of the system and how we create value and what clients need, it's easy to default to designing experiences indexed on efficiency, or maybe client experiences that index on regulatory adherence, but not actually creating something that's really incredible and delightful for the client.”

*”On metrics, it's really evolved. When we started the CX journey, it was really focused on CSAT, NPS, those really big aggregate numbers that are easy to compare across companies. As time has gone on, I've become less and less enamored with those aggregate metrics. We still need to calculate them, we need to track, we need to benchmark, etc. But I think CX telemetry is best done at a more granular basis where you're actually measuring things like individual interactions and satisfaction.”

*”I think at times you can find a metric and seek to maximize it, and then kind of lose the storyline a little bit. So I think you always have to kind of come back to this foundation of what are we trying to do strategically? What are we really solving for holistically?”

*”In terms of the media stuff that we do, the planning and progress study, a lot of the talks that I give internally, to our advisors, to client groups, it's about this constant drumbeat of storytelling around the client. And I think that constant drumbeat of storytelling is incredibly important for long standing incumbent financial services companies because historically we were very focused on financial performance. We might have been very focused on recruiting of advisors, and those things are very important. But by constantly storytelling around the client, incredible experiences, things that we want to do, it's part of shifting the zeitgeist, the mindset of the organization to be more client centric.”

*”One of the interesting areas where we debate a lot is instances where the client may have a preference for self service, but we somehow want to inject a human to make sure that the best client outcome occurs. The poster child example would be, we have a big market correction, the client gets scared, wants to liquidate his or her portfolio, and might prefer to do that in an automated way via the mobile experience. Now, if the client really wants to do that, of course we will help them do it. But that might not actually be the best long-term decision. So in instances like that, we actually want to insert some human friction, for lack of a better word, to at least gut check that client, to really make sure that we're helping that client not only have a good experience today, but really achieve their financial goals long term.”

*”A lot of the experiences that we create in financial services or financial planning, it's more at pulling the heartstrings than the math. It's about the emotion, the psychology. How do you harness that in such a way that the client makes the right decisions and is better off long term?”

*”Sometimes we think about the peak moments of the client experience. That ‘You can retire moment,’ or ‘Your family's protected’ moment. But I actually think real trust, real client experience comes through consistency of interaction, predictability, and high quality communication that plays out over really, really long periods of time. So I think consistency is really the name of the game and one of the unsung heroes of great client experiences.”

Time Stamps

[2:38] Christian Mitchell's Journey in Northwestern Mutual

[5:16] The Evolution of Customer E...

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This episode features an interview with Aleks Bass, Chief Product Officer at Typeform, the web-based platform you can use to create anything from surveys to apps, without needing to write a single line of code. Aleks has over 18 years of experience in product marketing, product management and consumer insights in B2B SaaS and D2C. In her current role as Chief Product Officer, she leads product management, design, research, and product operations. Her priority is creating user-centric digital solutions. Aleks has previously held leadership roles at Momentive, Adobe and Qualtrics, which has since been acquired by SAP. In this episode, Aleks shares her insights on how product and product marketing can enhance customer experience. She discusses the importance of aligning product management with consumer insights, the role of design in digital CX, and trends in customer behavior. Aleks elaborates on Typeform's new product, Typeform for Growth, which aims to boost customer acquisition using AI. The conversation also touches on measuring digital customer experience, the balance between automation and human interaction, and the significance of diversity in tech leadership. Finally, Aleks discusses Typeform's future vision of creating a holistic customer experience and the essential role of AI in achieving this goal.

Quotes

*”Good design for me in digital CX is intuitive, accessible, and empathetic. But the number one thing it has to absolutely do is be usable. So I prioritize usability over anything that's new, aesthetically pleasing, keeping up with the trends, et cetera. Design's ultimate role is to anticipate user needs and remove friction points from the experience and remove them from having blockages in their ability to do the things that they need to do.”

*”There is a difference between asking people for feedback and truly understanding what they're saying to you in the context of what their broader pain points are versus asking for feedback and taking that feedback at face value. Because if I don't understand the pain points that you personally experience, I might interpret the feedback that you're giving me differently, and I might not be solving for the true challenge that you are facing. Whereas if I deeply understand a marketer's workflow, what tools they're using, how they're using those tools, the gaps in those current tools, what they wish they could do, how certain tools are not playing nicely with other tools, it allows me to create solutions that are actually much more adaptable to their individual use cases. And so that's the piece within customer centricity, customer experience, and strategy that I feel like is really critical to create better experiences for our customers.”

*”There's no shortcut in trying to figure out and learn about your customers. You have to do the work and you have to spend the time and you have to engage in the most effective way to get the most insight out of their patterns and pain points and challenges.”

There's no shortcut in trying to figure out and learn about your customers. You have to do the work and spend the time and to get the most insight”.

*”A gap in the customer experience is when automation serves the company, not the customer. Automation should ultimately keep people at the center. Yes, it can help companies improve efficiency. I think we all can see the benefits of that. But if it is hurting your customer experience, then that's a negative outcome for your business ultimately.”

Time Stamps

[0:01] Meet Aleks Bass, Chief Product Officer at Typeform

[0:56] Connecting Product Marketing to Customer Experience

[4:04] Designing for Digital Customer Experience

[5:44] Trends in Customer Behavior

[7:03] Introducing Typeform for Growth

[9:22] Enhancing Lead Generation with AI

[11:49] Fostering Exceptional Digital Customer Experience

[27:59] Personalizing Customer Experience

[33:18] Building Trust and Measuring Success

[36:55] Balancing Automation and Human Interaction

[39:22] Positive Customer Experience Examples

[44:09] The Importance of Diverse Perspectives

[46:03] Future of Typeform and Technology

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