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Curious Creatures

Curious Creatures

Lol Tolhurst & Budgie

Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.
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Goodpods has curated a list of the 10 best Curious Creatures episodes, ranked by the number of listens and likes each episode have garnered from our listeners. If you are listening to Curious Creatures for the first time, there's no better place to start than with one of these standout episodes. If you are a fan of the show, vote for your favorite Curious Creatures episode by adding your comments to the episode page.

The Boys to Entertain You!

TV Pirates at Midnight!

Fred was Envious of High-Class English chocolate

Time for the Test card and a little light Music

Rattle Your Jewellery at The London Palladium

The Only house on the block with Colour TV

First Drum Kits!

Where did we hide them?

Budgie’s patent Caterpillar dampening system

Lol’s kit Hidden in Robert’s house

Made with Rubber? from Lol’s Lab job.

First Influences!

Fred hears the Magical Mystery Tour in Rio!

Budgie hears the Magical Mystery Tour in Stereo

Lol has Overload hearing ‘Axis: Bold as Love’

From The Bay City Rollers to The Ramones

Get Down and Boogie!

Whose kit did we Wanna Steal?

The Damned’s, The Buzzcocks’, or Blondie’s?

Aw C’mon, Punk had only One bass drum!

Lol’s Mum Knits his first punk sweater

Where did it All Begin?

Fred worshipped at the Altar of the Beat

Lol picked up a Snare for song

Fred pictures Lol as a little boy

We all were envious of The Drummer

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Respect: Charlie Watts (2 June 1941 – 24 August 2021)

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Budgie:

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Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.

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Curious Creatures - Nabil Ayers Pt. 1: Sheet – We Need To Get Back In
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03/31/24 • 38 min

Los Angeles Goes Out - Not Up!

Reinvigoration and we’re running up that hill,

But are we in the wrong sort of bungalow – Bill?

It was pots and pans and party time when Nabil was only two!

Happy House on Top of the Pops showed Budgie’s Ratamacue!

Drum lessons on the roof – of the National Geographic!

Inside the Hallowed world of the drummer’s secret handshake

All the drummers in Pasadena put together make an earthquake

A Night in the Museum with an Egyptian sort of sound

Genesis and Focus on the Oval cricket ground

Bow Bells are Ringing!

Cheech of Chong made Lol an Angelino

In the Biggest library in the Town of Televisino

An unlikely meeting of Minds at the LA Forum

Don’t tell Duff McKagan or even Matt Sorum

Books Books Books!

When your whole life drifts like a Spirit in the Sky

There’s no time left as Tears go By

The second one’s needed, so no need to sell ‘em

It’s a personal thing - it’s the way I tell ‘em

Memory is Not an Exact Science!

Don’t you Love me Baby?

But you condensed my life into half a chapter!

It probably didn’t fit the greater arc of the story

It’s not what happens - it’s how you remember it.

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Respect: Kevin ‘Geordie’ Walker (18 December 1958 – 26 November 2023)

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Facebook: @officialloltolhurst

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Budgie:

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Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo

Instagram: @budgie646

Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee:

Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee

Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF

Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee

Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.

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Phase 1. In which The Cramps’ Brian Gregory, gets on the Banshees’ tour bus outside the I-Beam in San Francisco and asks, “Was anyone in Liverpool not cool?”

A Dark devilish spirit with feet like Merce Cunningham.

Phase 2. In which Billy McKensie spares Lol from Death in Venice. Billy in The Cure’s penthouse for Faith singing songlines from another time, another place.

Phase 3. In which Ms Morrissey is Queen of backstage and you’ll just have to wait.

Well excuse us for Breathing, say us Dudes in unison!

Phase 4. In which Leonard asks a bittersweet question. Are songs always what they seem?

PJ Harvey said, most people think all her songs are auto biographical. Though she hasn’t drowned any babies recently.

Phase 5. In which Sandrine asks, what’s that sound? Is it a Bird in a tree?

We’ve got a Harmoniser and we’re going to use it! The Godlike beauty of a few notes.

PS: Leather does not like Humidity!

Phase 6. In which The Cure and The Banshees played soccer after Elephant Fayre – True or False? Tom and Anton took our smudges! Budgie had proud moments on the Slits Cut. Lol had proud moments on The Top, but his drumming on Pornography takes the biscuit.

Together we’re most proud of our parts in our 3rd Act – with Jacknife Lee, on Los Angeles.

Phase 7. In which Henna asks, “Best LA memories?” The daily climb up Topanga. Freeways, Disney, Beaches, Cars. Yes, but there’s always something new. No sleep, big snakes, and spectacular people.

Phase 8. In which Cambria asks, ‘What’s the biggest change?’ It may be our notion of time. We never stopped. It was the only life we knew. Today life is in session, and it’s FULL ON!

Maybe, it was the restaurant menu. Maybe it was Denny’s. Maybe it was the all-day Breakfast! Genesis to Revelations. Long drives and Heaven at 4am! The Cure shake their booty to The Village People – The Banshees play Paintball in Freemantle!

Phase 9. In which we pay attention. To what we like. To our influences. To our origins not being geographical. To the Magnetism. To the Bits that shouldn’t fit, that just Do! To Being Sound Carriers.

In Life’s Beautiful Tapestry

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Respect: Damo (Kenji) Suzuki (ダモ鈴木), (16 January 1950 – 9 February 2024)

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Budgie:

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Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF

Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee

Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.

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Which silver screen superstar honed his comedic chops behind bars while doing time for slinging cocaine? Which movie mogul's home in the Hollywood hills played host to one of the most heinous and notorious crimes of the 1970s? And how did ONE movie franchise supposedly curse FOUR different actors, leading them each to an early grave?

Hear the unbelievable but true stories behind these questions and more in BADLANDS Season 3: Hollywoodland.

BADLANDS is a true-crime anthology podcast from Jake Brennan, creator and host of the award-winning music and true crime podcast DISGRACELAND.

BADLANDS Season 3: Hollywoodland is all about the dirty deeds of Tinseltown A-listers whose crimes and career lows were as unbelievable as some of their films' plot twists. Beginning February 16th, listen each week for wild stories about Robert Downey Jr., Gianni Versace, Sal Mineo, Tim Allen, Heath Ledger, Jack Nicholson, Brittany Murphy, the Poltergeist Curse, Robert Mitchum, and Elizabeth Short a/k/a The Black Dahlia.

Follow BADLANDS on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Wondery+, or wherever you get your podcasts. BADLANDS Season 3: Hollywoodland premieres February 16th with new episodes available every Wednesday. Or, beginning February 16th, you can binge the whole season of 10 episodes on Amazon Music.

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Curious Creatures - Jacknife Lee Pt. 1: The Stroke of True Genius
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07/27/23 • 35 min

Jacknife never remembers the big moments.

Q. Why are we so busy? A. We have an album coming out!

Blatant Plug: Los Angeles: The Album: November 3rd!

Jacknife enjoys teams but was never a joiner

Overcome by FOMO - The pandemic begat TIME!

Two Drummers and a Producer - Two Turntables and a Microphone

Budgie met Jacknife in Berlin on Bono’s no expense spared book tour

Lol toured his book in South America to Arequipa in Peru.

Q. Does Bono do impersonations? A. Yes, a very dark Rupert Murdoch

Robert impersonated Lol and Lol did a great Robert

Everyone close to Robert, became Robert!

Q. Affectation or affection for Siouxsie in the Banshees? A.????

Young Bob reinvented Regal zone on ‘So It Goes’

Bon mots take hold on the road

An unusual dynamic - being together all the time

Understanding people and personalities

Us against the world – All for One and One for All!

Parts of the world Lol liked and the Jilted teenage girlfriend

As you get older, you better understand your ego

Getting over the caricatures - writing the story

making peace with life - preventing strange characters taking over

Q. The Real Stroke of Genius? – A. Begin Today with a Clean Slate!

The Job of the Musician is to Discover – Anon.

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Respect: Sinéad O’Connor (December 1966 – July 2023)

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Budgie:

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Curious Creatures - Introducing BADLANDS Season 5: HOLLYWOODLAND
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08/04/22 • 1 min

Which muscled action star ran a jewelry theft ring as a teenager in Hawaii? How did a critically-acclaimed actor get chewed out by the public and the police for a scandalous cannibalism kink? And which heiress turned actress found herself firing a submachine gun when she was kidnapped and brainwashed by a terrorist organization?


 

Discover the details behind these unbelievable but true stories in an all-new season of Badlands: Hollywoodland. This season of Badlands dives deeper into the shady characters of Tinseltown than ever before, featuring the insane true stories of Drew Barrymore, Charlie Sheen, Danny Trejo, John Belushi, Armie Hammer, Charlie Chaplin, Lucille Ball, Bob Crane of Hogan’s Heroes, Patty Hearst, and Dwayne Johnson, a.k.a The Rock.


 

Listen to new episodes of Badlands wherever you get your podcasts, or binge the entire new season right now exclusively on Amazon Music at amazon.com/badlands.

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Budgie plays his Big Bass Harp

The Cult and Subbuteo keep everyone Sharp

Introducing a Liverpool theme

You’ll Never Walk Alone, now choose your team!

Lol delivered Newspapers for 25 Bob

Delivering milk was Wayne’s other Job

The Beeb Top 40 on Sundays recorded

5 Pounds a week a new album afforded

David K Jones had a Brian Connolly haircut

Young Budgie’s Skinhead made the Headmaster Tut!

Banshees and Cure played soccer together

The Cure played the crew but it made Heavy weather!

Wayne played for Charity and Drew with the Frankies

Nasher the Smasher drew Coronation Street hankies!

Wayne and Budgie played in a band

It lasted two days and then they were canned

Wayne with Pete Burns in Dead or Alive

Built like a builder - Pete tolerated no Jive

‘Gimme Dat Harp Boy’

Budgie blows the Whistle Test intro

Wayne and Lol speechless, ‘He plays like a Pro!’

Lol first met Wayne in the 80’s euphoria

saw the Mission play a blinder at London’s Astoria

And on into the sunrise of a new friendship’s Gloria!

Whispering Bob Harris and Annie Nightingale hosting

Morning already? Imaginary boys toasting

Sugarcubes’ Einar and Bob had a Ruckus?

The Zillow in Germany was it playful then serious?

Wayne once lived in the Columbia Hotel

Budgie stayed at One Queensway for a similar spell

Wayne’s Solo book tour - music and reading

Lol toured Chuck Berry style with local Cure-heads leading

Chile, and Peru where the Cure’s pick-up glistens

Pornography is one of Wayne’s favourite listens

Albie Singer was Wayne’s hotel pseudonym

Budgie was Chad Valley and Lol, Mr Lazlo

When Wayne asked reception, Hey what room am I in?

The room for Mr Pussy must be Wayne’s alter-Ego

Turned out Mr Pussy was the room Johnny Lydon was in!

‘Delusions of Grandeur’

Lol spends 4 months at the Beverly Hills 4 Seasons

Wayne drives around strange places on tour in New Zealand

Onwards to Moscow or was it Rio or Bangkok?

Lol used a matchbox to find his hotel

Budgie did too but which matchbox is it?

It’s Spinal Tap again!

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Respect: Captain Beefheart - (Don Van Vliet: January 15, 1941 - December 17, 2010)

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Budgie:

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Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.

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My 1st is in Punk but Never in Junk

My 2nd is in Museum but never in Mausoleum

My 3rd is a Shop of Tartan punk Underwear

My 4TH is Shock of Electric Blue Head Hair

Who am I?

Lol has the stuff the Hall of Fame Loves

Stan Laurel jokes follow Budgie like Doves

Lol sounds Australian? Mike’s a Bostonian!

We love San Francisco and the fog on The Bay

We love the old iBeam and we love Lol’s son Gray

The Cure and The Banshees played there in its Hey day

Mike saw The Sweet there but we’d all gone away!

Bob and Lol stayed at the Red Victorian

Meeting the legends and Pleasant Germanian

The Punk scene came from Bowie’s Roots

The Ramones and The Runaways and Doc Martins Boots

Lol was 15 when he saw Suzi Quatro

Then Killing Joke told him to go to America

Fat Mike’s parents didn’t listen to Music

Mike became a Germ Free Adolescent for Poly Styrene

My 1st is in X-Ray Spex and also in Ozzy

My 2nd is in Pat Smear who lent them a Cozzy

My 3rd is in Alice Bag and also in Darby Crash

My 4th is in NoFX and also in Graveyard Smash

What am I?

Budgie is all about the Drums

It’s always all about the drums

Adam and the Ants - The Glitter band had amazing drums

Adam asked Lol and Lol said, “I’m in the Cure so it’s okay.”

Lol wears white Sox!

So he didn’t get beat up at the Missing Persons gig. (who wrote this?)

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Respect: Marianne Joan Elliott-Said (3 July 1957 – 25 April 2011) Poly Styrene

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Facebook: @officialloltolhurst

Twitter: @LolTolhurst

Instagram: @lol.tolhurst

Budgie:

Facebook: @budgieofficial

Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo

Instagram: @budgie646

Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.

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We Start a band and Lose Ourselves - Relationships, Boundaries and Rights - Give us a Different Manner - Pictures of us as Babies - Physical Reaction to Mental Pains - The Roles we take that Change Us. The Internet let Budgie recall His 120 mins of Silence The better He Looked - The worse He felt Inside - South America 1995 - Budgie At the top of his Endgame.
Freaky!
We see ourselves yet not recognize ourselves - See the Reality yet doubt its Truth! We were different people. Recognition of the Places we Came from - Equality Changes Perception. Lol Free of the Angst of the Past - The Truth will Set you Free - The Audience is Listening and Knows!
A Sheltered Life for Kevin - Fun being in the Gang - We’ll show them - When the band Stopped it was a Bolt from the Blue for Kevin - the Band defines you. We were all Court Jesters - Lol found the Spotlight became Destructive - The Court Jester becomes The Scapegoat - When you drive Out the Scapegoat - the Problems Remain.
We were rooting for Piggy in Lord of the Flies - King Lear and The Fool - Yin and Yang? A life out of Balance – ‘Les Enfants Terrible’ - Jean Cocteau - Budgie as Bomb Disposal Specialist - Lol as The Minister keeping it Together - We are The Mental Family!
Kevin as Peacekeeper - Feels Memoir will set him Free - Writing it down is the Best Thing - Life’s not Just the journey it’s the Trip Man! Kevin as Film Composer - Fantastic stuff!
Dedicated to: Irwin Allen Ginsberg
(3 June 1926 – 5 April 1997)

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Jen Loves Us!
We are Nerds, Podcast virgins, we are old dogs for new
we have Budgie as Yenta - we have Lol in his pew
we have weddings in the desert - at the Church of Whatever,
Budgie Tambourines for Jesus – it’s a Hooker’s Endeavour.

Rock Star Cult!
Like a Hawk holding Rings from Monday ‘til Sunday
Every night is a Saturday when you’re in a band
On a two-year tour – Jen’s teen love was the Cure
It’s a Dark Gothic Berlin and a Devious Hollywood land

I’m a Celebrity, Get me Out of Here!
The Cult of Fandom and Marc Bolan Glamdom
Is there mystery in Bowie’s bolero?
Budgie’s hot chocolate and Lol’s discombobulate
Are there Artichokes in Old Pescadero?

The Price of Fame!
It’s all so much bigger than two of us knew
Will Santa Cruz welcome us soon?
To circle the square - Jen leaves for elsewhere
The keys to the city or a trip to the Moon?

Budgie in Berlin, Lol in LA
We wanted to leave, and a band was the ticket
Home can be anywhere when we’re ok and sane.
Our Past is elusive like that strange game of cricket
Jack Frost freezes time on our mind’s windowpane

Dedicated to the memory of Marc Bolan (30 September 1947 – 16 September 1977) “Get it On – Bang a Gong – Get it On”

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Facebook: @officialloltolhurst
Twitter: @LolTolhurst
Instagram: @lol.tolhurst
Budgie:
Facebook: @budgieofficial
Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
Instagram: @budgie646

Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.

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