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Cult or Just Weird - S5E9 - The Criminals (Hare Krishnas, pt2)

S5E9 - The Criminals (Hare Krishnas, pt2)

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10/10/23 • 91 min

Cult or Just Weird

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"It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible."

-David Brin

Chris and Kayla explore the nature of power and learn some shocking stories about the group du jour in this part two.

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*Search Categories*

New Religious Movement; Anthropological

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*Topic Spoiler*

The Hare Krishnas / ISKCON

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*Further Reading*

https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B07B4TLHNG/allbooks

http://www.henrydoktorski.com/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1990/05/26/hare-krishna-leader-tied-to-murder-plot/5308aa16-44f7-459d-b62e-4c3acc4e1a4f/

https://www.nytimes.com/1996/08/29/us/ex-hare-krishna-leader-gets-20-year-sentence.html

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-10-28-me-4819-story.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Vrindaban

https://gbc.iskcon.org/

​​http://www.henrydoktorski.com/Killing4Krishna/2018_Memorial_Service.html

https://thecinemaholic.com/charles-st-denis-and-stephen-bryant-murders-is-kirtanananda-swami-dead-or-alive/

https://www.nytimes.com/1977/11/02/archives/california-slaying-case-involves-exmafia-figures-and-krishnas.html

https://culteducation.com/group/1016-iskcon/12236-can-cultic-groups-change-.html

https://culteducation.com/group/1016-iskcon/12198-where-have-all-the-krishnas-gone.html

https://www.nytimes.com/1977/11/16/archives/swami-prabhupada-hare-krishna-head-founder-of-movement-81-came-to.html

https://ffl.org/

https://iscowp.org/

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*Patreon Credits*

Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Alyssa Ottum, David Whiteside, Jade A, amy sarah marshall, Martina Dobson, Eillie Anzilotti, Patrick St-Onge, Lewis Brown, Kelly Smith Upton, Wild Hunt Alex, Niklas Brock

Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana, Megan Blackburn, Instantly Joy, Athena of CaveSystem, John Grelish, Rose Kerchinske, Annika Ramen, Alicia Smith, Kevin, Velm, Dan Malmud, tiny, Dom, Benevolent Loki, Tribe Label - Panda - Austin, Noelle Hoover, Tesa Hamilton, Nicole Carter, Paige, Brian Lancaster

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Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out?

Come join us on discord!

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"It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible."

-David Brin

Chris and Kayla explore the nature of power and learn some shocking stories about the group du jour in this part two.

---

*Search Categories*

New Religious Movement; Anthropological

---

*Topic Spoiler*

The Hare Krishnas / ISKCON

---

*Further Reading*

https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B07B4TLHNG/allbooks

http://www.henrydoktorski.com/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1990/05/26/hare-krishna-leader-tied-to-murder-plot/5308aa16-44f7-459d-b62e-4c3acc4e1a4f/

https://www.nytimes.com/1996/08/29/us/ex-hare-krishna-leader-gets-20-year-sentence.html

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-10-28-me-4819-story.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Vrindaban

https://gbc.iskcon.org/

​​http://www.henrydoktorski.com/Killing4Krishna/2018_Memorial_Service.html

https://thecinemaholic.com/charles-st-denis-and-stephen-bryant-murders-is-kirtanananda-swami-dead-or-alive/

https://www.nytimes.com/1977/11/02/archives/california-slaying-case-involves-exmafia-figures-and-krishnas.html

https://culteducation.com/group/1016-iskcon/12236-can-cultic-groups-change-.html

https://culteducation.com/group/1016-iskcon/12198-where-have-all-the-krishnas-gone.html

https://www.nytimes.com/1977/11/16/archives/swami-prabhupada-hare-krishna-head-founder-of-movement-81-came-to.html

https://ffl.org/

https://iscowp.org/

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*Patreon Credits*

Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Alyssa Ottum, David Whiteside, Jade A, amy sarah marshall, Martina Dobson, Eillie Anzilotti, Patrick St-Onge, Lewis Brown, Kelly Smith Upton, Wild Hunt Alex, Niklas Brock

Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana, Megan Blackburn, Instantly Joy, Athena of CaveSystem, John Grelish, Rose Kerchinske, Annika Ramen, Alicia Smith, Kevin, Velm, Dan Malmud, tiny, Dom, Benevolent Loki, Tribe Label - Panda - Austin, Noelle Hoover, Tesa Hamilton, Nicole Carter, Paige, Brian Lancaster

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undefined - S5E8 - The Chanters (Hare Krishnas, pt 1)

S5E8 - The Chanters (Hare Krishnas, pt 1)

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"Repetition not for monotony but the ecstasy it induces." - Martha Graham

Chris and Kayla go to a restaurant. Kind of. Don't worry, we'll repeat ourselves.

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*Search Categories*

New Religious Movement; Anthropological

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*Topic Spoiler*

The Hare Krishnas / ISKCON

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*Further Reading*

https://iskconla.com/Home.aspx

https://www.iskcon.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Society_for_Krishna_Consciousness

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._C._Bhaktivedanta_Swami_Prabhupada

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Sweet_Lord

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04v-SdKeEpE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVMgEupff-E

https://culteducation.com/group/1016-iskcon/12236-can-cultic-groups-change-.html

https://culteducation.com/group/1016-iskcon/12247-can-it-be-that-the-hare-krishnas-are-not-hindu-.html

https://culteducation.com/group/1016-iskcon/12198-where-have-all-the-krishnas-gone.html

https://culteducation.com/group/1016-iskcon/12228-group-battles-airport-limits-on-solicitors-.htm

https://culteducation.com/group/1016-iskcon/12230-hare-krishna-solicitors-are-again-being-restricted-at-los-angeles-international-airport.html

https://culteducation.com/group/1016-iskcon/12239-at-uf-theres-no-free-lunch.html

https://culteducation.com/group/1016-iskcon/12245-can-hare-krishna-chant-cure-depression.html

https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Hare_Krishna

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*Patreon Credits*

Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Alyssa Ottum, David Whiteside, Jade A, amy sarah marshall, Martina Dobson, Eillie Anzilotti, Patrick St-Onge, Lewis Brown, Kelly Smith Upton, Wild Hunt Alex, Niklas Brock

Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana, Megan Blackburn, Instantly Joy, Athena of CaveSystem, John Grelish, Rose Kerchinske, Annika Ramen, Alicia Smith, Kevin, Velm, Dan Malmud, tiny, Dom, Ragnheiður Eiríksdóttir, Benevolent Loki, Tribe Label - Panda - Austin, Noelle Hoover, Tesa Hamilton, Nicole Carter, Paige

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undefined - S5E10 - The Secret Knowledge (Theosophy)

S5E10 - The Secret Knowledge (Theosophy)

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Thinking – the talking of the soul with itself.

-Plato

Chris and Kayla attend class at another small local group... whose presence & influence is worldwide & ubiquitous.

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*Search Categories*

New Religious Movement; New Age​

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*Topic Spoiler*

Theosophy

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*Further Reading*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophy

https://www.britannica.com/topic/theosophy

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theosophy

https://theosophyult.com/what-is-theosophy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Lodge_of_Theosophists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helena_Blavatsky

https://www.britannica.com/topic/New-Age-movement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Age

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonic_realism

yikes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_race

https://www.rt.com/news/brain-neuroscience-visual-information-709/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_monkey_effect

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabbalah

https://www.bl.uk/hebrew-manuscripts/articles/the-power-of-language-in-jewish-kabbalah

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Kabbala

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeticism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoplatonism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revelation

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*Patreon Credits*

Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Alyssa Ottum, David Whiteside, Jade A, amy sarah marshall, Martina Dobson, Eillie Anzilotti, Patrick St-Onge, Lewis Brown, Kelly Smith Upton, Wild Hunt Alex, Niklas Brock

Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana, Megan Blackburn, Instantly Joy, Athena of CaveSystem, John Grelish, Rose Kerchinske, Annika Ramen, Alicia Smith, Kevin, Velm, Dan Malmud, tiny, Dom, Benevolent Loki, Tribe Label - Panda - Austin, Noelle Hoover, Tesa Hamilton, Nicole Carter, Paige, Brian Lancaster

Cult or Just Weird - S5E9 - The Criminals (Hare Krishnas, pt2)

Transcript

Kayla

On November 14, 1977, RLA Prabhupda, the founder of the International Society for Ka Consciousness, aka the Hare Krishnas, rested in his quarters. He was staying at one of his organizations temples in the city of Vrindavan, India, a holy site for their faith as supreme Lord Krishna had spent his childhood in this city. There are over 5000 temples dedicated to Krishna in Vrindavan. But right at this moment, Prabhupadas might be the most important, bec

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