Red Dye No. 3, The Ballad of Dyylyn, Ban/Don't Ban (feat. @hydroxide)

Explicit content warning

01/26/25 • 62 min

Cult Flav Is Going Off

THINGS MENTIONED:

Tochi popcorn (try the Ube flavor) - https://tochisnacks.com/products/tochi-popcorn
Red Dye #3 Ban announcement Jan 15, 2025 - https://www.fda.gov/food/hfp-constituent-updates/fda-revoke-authorization-use-red-no-3-food-and-ingested-drugs
What's the Delaney Clause? - https://www.gao.gov/products/hrd-82-3
Who's supporting the ban? - https://www.cspinet.org/sites/default/files/2022-10/Red%203%20petition_24%20Oct%202022_FINAL%20%281%29.pdf
CSPI is publishing sensational articles - https://www.cspinet.org/press-release/red-3-fda-petition
Consumer Reports Advocacy Efforts - https://www.consumerreports.org/issue/food-safety?INTKEY=I000G0000
What is EWG? - https://www.ewg.org
Sprinklegate - https://www.npr.org/2021/10/15/1046348573/sprinklegate-sinks-a-u-k-bakerys-top-sellers-after-topping-is-found-to-be-illega
Yoga mat chemical in bread - https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/03/06/286886095/almost-500-foods-contain-the-yoga-mat-compound-should-we-care-keep
Eating PTFE to lose weight study - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4928218/#:~:text=There%20is%20strong%20evidence%20supporting,extreme%20inertness%20of%20the%20material.

QUESTIONABLE CONTENT:

"I desperately need help explaining to my granola boyfriend that seed oils aren't bad. Any chance you guys can super break this down? I know you already touch on oils a bit" - Kristen
P.s. Kristen or Dyyylan if you're reading this, please know that we're just joking about breaking up. Please don't take our jokes too personally. We're sure Dyyylan (not his actual name) is a lovely person.

As a reminder, if you want to ask questions, go post em in the #going-off channel on cultflav.com/community or call 424-419-FLAV (that’s 424-419-3528).

FOLLOW HYDROXIDE!

THAT'S IT!

Thanks for watching the show! As a reminder we have a community page on our website where you can chat with folks about this epsiode over at https://cultflav.com/community. Check it out.

THINGS MENTIONED:

Tochi popcorn (try the Ube flavor) - https://tochisnacks.com/products/tochi-popcorn
Red Dye #3 Ban announcement Jan 15, 2025 - https://www.fda.gov/food/hfp-constituent-updates/fda-revoke-authorization-use-red-no-3-food-and-ingested-drugs
What's the Delaney Clause? - https://www.gao.gov/products/hrd-82-3
Who's supporting the ban? - https://www.cspinet.org/sites/default/files/2022-10/Red%203%20petition_24%20Oct%202022_FINAL%20%281%29.pdf
CSPI is publishing sensational articles - https://www.cspinet.org/press-release/red-3-fda-petition
Consumer Reports Advocacy Efforts - https://www.consumerreports.org/issue/food-safety?INTKEY=I000G0000
What is EWG? - https://www.ewg.org
Sprinklegate - https://www.npr.org/2021/10/15/1046348573/sprinklegate-sinks-a-u-k-bakerys-top-sellers-after-topping-is-found-to-be-illega
Yoga mat chemical in bread - https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/03/06/286886095/almost-500-foods-contain-the-yoga-mat-compound-should-we-care-keep
Eating PTFE to lose weight study - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4928218/#:~:text=There%20is%20strong%20evidence%20supporting,extreme%20inertness%20of%20the%20material.

QUESTIONABLE CONTENT:

"I desperately need help explaining to my granola boyfriend that seed oils aren't bad. Any chance you guys can super break this down? I know you already touch on oils a bit" - Kristen
P.s. Kristen or Dyyylan if you're reading this, please know that we're just joking about breaking up. Please don't take our jokes too personally. We're sure Dyyylan (not his actual name) is a lovely person.

As a reminder, if you want to ask questions, go post em in the #going-off channel on cultflav.com/community or call 424-419-FLAV (that’s 424-419-3528).

FOLLOW HYDROXIDE!

THAT'S IT!

Thanks for watching the show! As a reminder we have a community page on our website where you can chat with folks about this epsiode over at https://cultflav.com/community. Check it out.

Previous Episode

Kat Ensign vs Geoffrey Lee, Cabbage Ideas, Bean Milk (feat. Radicchio Salad)

THINGS MENTIONED

Nada Moo intro: https://nadamoo.com
Kat Ensign gave a middling review of a restaurant in San Francisco called Hamburger Project where she referred to their food as “good, not great”: https://nypost.com/2025/01/04/us-news/chef-geoffrey-lee-quits-restaurants-after-spat-with-influencer/
Internet Shaquille: https://www.patreon.com/shaq
Peinao Review: https://youtu.be/Zkfb9aTyNpo?si=E-NQ0R8wHQYcBIQI
Peinao DMs: https://ehhb6mu6qg.ufs.sh/f/1GCkiCEkTCfJkJ1VBblAtTarEy1wQDbfd80nmRXBV94gFscC
There are plenty of reviewers out there who rely on brand partnerships to stay afloat: https://prudentreviews.com/partnerships/
Matty Matheson review where people said we were biased: https://youtu.be/3ByP2I5fYDA?si=0ESdH1Y4HPxL8moM
“Why Academics Stink at Writing” by Steven Pinker: https://grad.ncsu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Why-Academics-Stink-at-Writing-1-2.pdf
PubMed aggregator disclaimer: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/disclaimer/

HOW TO BE WRONG ON THE INTERNET

Honesty.
Getting something wrong isn’t inherently bad because you can learn from it, but if it seems like someone’s actively lying or purposefully twisting the truth — that’s unacceptable.
Show your work.
Cite your sources, talk through your logic for how you got to the conclusion you did.
Don’t get too invested in being right.
The more indignant you are, the more defensive you tend to get AND the bigger target you paint on your back for people to try to prove you wrong. Which means you will very likely be proven wrong and it will be more painful to learn from it rather than digging in further.

QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
"How do you use pork shoulder?"

Kimchi Raikkonen: https://cultflav.com/recipes/kimchi-raikkonen
David Chang-style Bo Ssam: Just coat it in brown sugar and salt, then roast it for a few hours til it falls apart. Roll it up in lettuce with some rice and ginger scallion sauce.
Pulled pork sandwiches are fire, Sarah actually wrote a phenomenal homemade Carolina-Style bbq sauce recipe designed SPECIFICALLY for pulled pork sandwiches called None Too Bright that we used to sell: https://cultflav.com/recipes/none-too-bright

"What do you use cabbage for?"

I said green cabbage, but napa or savoy are very good for my akira tareyama recipe: https://cultflav.com/recipes/akira-tareyama
Sai Krok Isaan is one of our absolute favorites which is a northeastern thai-style sausage that is easy to buy frozen, tastes amazing, and is often served with chopped cabbage, sliced red onion, ginger, and peanuts: https://grocerythai.com/Cured-Pork-w-Rice-(E-Sarn-Sausage),-Champ
Chakalaka, which is like a South African cross between kimchi and chutney is great on a grilled cheese. We made that for our In Bibi’s Kitchen review a while back: https://bookshop.org/a/88615/9781984856739
I’m also a sucker for a salted cabbage salad with sumac, which Dune, one of our fav lunch spots here in LA tends to put on everything: https://www.dunekitchen.com

"TF is a lime leaf?"

Don't use this word: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaffir_lime

HOW TO GET ON THE SHOW
If you would like to ask us a question on the show either call 424-419-FLAV (3528) or post at cultflav.com/community/going-off

BEAN MILK CHALLENGE FEAT. RADICCHIO SALAD

Radicchio Salad Website: https://www.radicchiosalad.com
Radicchio Salad YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RadicchioSalad
Radicchio Salad Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/radicchiosalad/

👋Ok, that's all for this week! Thanks for watching!

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Next Episode

Tradition vs. Taste, Only Weird If It Doesn't Work, & Upgrading Some Classics

Things Mentioned

Brami Lupini Beans - chili and lime is the best flavor
Wok Review that inspired our strong opinions this week: https://youtu.be/p1k3iRAvnn8?si=XlOz8ck-JEl1MMAQ
The Tucci Cookbook: https://cultflav.com/products/stanley-tucci-the-tucci-cookbook
Cutting off the ends of the steak story - The Pot Roast Principle
Khao Soi recipe YouTube video
Sqirl's Milk Jam Menu Item
Lil Sagna X Recipe
Lil Sagna X YouTube Video
Thanksgiving ramen recipe
Curry Pan in short crust from Budonoki
Sarah's birthday cake recipe inspired by Tucci's traditional flaky cake
Sarah's cookie recipe - her first recipe
Matty Matheson's third cookbook review on YouTube
Anne Geddes - she's still at it!

Questions

"What is your 'only weird if it doesn't work' thing in the kitchen?" - Drew

"Do you have some all time favorite foundational cookbooks that you'd recommend? And do you have any plans to review classic cookbooks?" - Zach

If you’ve got a question, you can post it in our #going-off channel or call 424-419-3528

Traditional Dishes That Could Use An Update

Coq au Vin reference recipe
Fettuccine Alfredo
Sarah roasts Bryn by saying he'll add a balloon like Mike Bagale
Pav Bhaji
Ropa Vieja
French Onion Soup
Pao de queijo (but Bryn actually meant Dadinho de Tapioca)

Thanks for hanging out with us and thank you to Drew and Zach for asking some great questions. As always, if you’ve got a question, you can post it in #going-off or call 424-419-3528.