
EP178 Meet Brandon Wood: The Human Side of Threat Intelligence: From Bad IP to Trafficking Busts
06/24/24 • 32 min
Guest:
- Brandon Wood, Product Manager for Google Threat Intelligence
Topics:
- Threat intelligence is one of those terms that means different things to everyone–can you tell us what this term has meant in the different contexts of your career? What do you tell people who assume that “TI = lists of bad IPs”?
- We heard while prepping for this show that you were involved in breaking up a human trafficking ring: tell us about that!
- In Anton’s experience, a lot of cyber TI is stuck in “1. Get more TI 2. ??? 3. Profit!” How do you move past that?
- One aspect of threat intelligence that’s always struck me as goofy is the idea that we can “monitor the dark web” and provide something useful. Can you change my mind on this one?
- You told us your story of getting into sales, you recently did a successful rotation into the role of Product Manager,, can you tell us about what motivated you to do this and what the experience was like?
- Are there other parts of your background that inform the work you’re doing and how you see yourself at Google?
- How does that impact our go to market for threat intelligence, and what’re we up to when it comes to keeping the Internet and broader world safe?
Resources:
- Video
- EP175 Meet Crystal Lister: From Public Sector to Google Cloud Security and Threat Horizons
- EP128 Building Enterprise Threat Intelligence: The Who, What, Where, and Why
- EP112 Threat Horizons - How Google Does Threat Intelligence
- Introducing Google Threat Intelligence: Actionable threat intelligence at Google scale
- A Requirements-Driven Approach to Cyber Threat Intelligence
Guest:
- Brandon Wood, Product Manager for Google Threat Intelligence
Topics:
- Threat intelligence is one of those terms that means different things to everyone–can you tell us what this term has meant in the different contexts of your career? What do you tell people who assume that “TI = lists of bad IPs”?
- We heard while prepping for this show that you were involved in breaking up a human trafficking ring: tell us about that!
- In Anton’s experience, a lot of cyber TI is stuck in “1. Get more TI 2. ??? 3. Profit!” How do you move past that?
- One aspect of threat intelligence that’s always struck me as goofy is the idea that we can “monitor the dark web” and provide something useful. Can you change my mind on this one?
- You told us your story of getting into sales, you recently did a successful rotation into the role of Product Manager,, can you tell us about what motivated you to do this and what the experience was like?
- Are there other parts of your background that inform the work you’re doing and how you see yourself at Google?
- How does that impact our go to market for threat intelligence, and what’re we up to when it comes to keeping the Internet and broader world safe?
Resources:
- Video
- EP175 Meet Crystal Lister: From Public Sector to Google Cloud Security and Threat Horizons
- EP128 Building Enterprise Threat Intelligence: The Who, What, Where, and Why
- EP112 Threat Horizons - How Google Does Threat Intelligence
- Introducing Google Threat Intelligence: Actionable threat intelligence at Google scale
- A Requirements-Driven Approach to Cyber Threat Intelligence
Previous Episode

EP177 Cloud Incident Confessions: Top 5 Mistakes Leading to Breaches from Mandiant
Guests:
- Omar ElAhdan, Principal Consultant, Mandiant, Google Cloud
- Will Silverstone, Senior Consultant, Mandiant, Google Cloud
Topics:
- Most organizations you see use both cloud and on-premise environments. What are the most common challenges organizations face in securing their hybrid cloud environments?
- You do IR so in your experience, what are top 5 mistakes organizations make that lead to cloud incidents?
- How and why do organizations get the attack surface wrong? Are there pillars of attack surface?
- We talk a lot about how IAM matters in the cloud. Is that true that AD is what gets you in many cases even for other clouds?
- What is your best cloud incident preparedness advice for organizations that are new to cloud and still use on-prem as well?
Resources:
- Next 2024 LIVE Video of this episode / LinkedIn version (sorry for the audio quality!)
- “Lessons Learned from Cloud Compromise” podcast at The Defender’s Advantage
- “Cloud compromises: Lessons learned from Mandiant investigations” in 2023 from Next 2024
- EP174 How to Measure and Improve Your Cloud Incident Response Readiness: A New Framework
- EP103 Security Incident Response and Public Cloud - Exploring with Mandiant
- EP162 IAM in the Cloud: What it Means to Do It 'Right' with Kat Traxler
Next Episode

EP179 Teamwork Under Stress: Expedition Behavior in Cybersecurity Incident Response
Guests:
- Robin Shostack, Security Program Manager, Google
- Jibran Ilyas, Managing Director Incident Response, Mandiant, Google Cloud
Topics:
- You talk about “teamwork under adverse conditions” to describe expedition behavior (EB). Could you tell us what it means?
- You have been involved in response to many high profile incidents, one of the ones we can talk about publicly is one of the biggest healthcare breaches at this time. Could you share how Expedition Behavior played a role in our response?
- Apart from during incident response which is almost definitionally an adverse condition, how else can security teams apply this knowledge?
- If teams are going to embrace an expeditionary behavior mindset, how do they learn it? It’s probably not feasible to ship every SOC team member off to the Okavango Delta for a NOLS course. Short of that, how do we foster EB in a new team?
- How do we create it in an existing team or an under-performing team?
Resources:
- EP174 How to Measure and Improve Your Cloud Incident Response Readiness: A New Framework
- EP103 Security Incident Response and Public Cloud - Exploring with Mandiant
- EP98 How to Cloud IR or Why Attackers Become Cloud Native Faster?
- “Take a few of these: Cybersecurity lessons for 21st century healthcare professionals” blog
- Getting More by Stuart Diamond book
- Who Moved My Cheese by Spencer Johnson book
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