
The Cloud to Code Dilemma - Let's Talk
09/09/23 • 24 min
Is it code to cloud or cloud to code with Harshil Parikh from Tromzo: A lot of leaders today face the inevitable question of should i start with the code or the cloud first. Harshil Parikh from Tromzo was kind enough to share his CISO experience on the topic on what each of these are and what can CISOs priortise in their programs.
Episode YouTube: Video Link
Host Twitter: Ashish Rajan (@hashishrajan)
Guest Socials: Harshil's Linkedin (Harshil Parikh)
Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod
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(00:00) Introduction
(02:51) Harshil's path into cybersecurity
(04:30) What is code to cloud?
(05:19) What is cloud to code?
(06:29) How was cybersecurity done traditionally?
(08:28) What should CISOs prioritise?
(09:43) How different sectors are impacted?
(10:56) Where should CISOs start?
(12:30) Application vs Cloud vs Product Security
(14:44) Is application security becoming cloud security?
(16:43) What does maturity look like?
(20:18) The fun questions
See you at the next episode!
Is it code to cloud or cloud to code with Harshil Parikh from Tromzo: A lot of leaders today face the inevitable question of should i start with the code or the cloud first. Harshil Parikh from Tromzo was kind enough to share his CISO experience on the topic on what each of these are and what can CISOs priortise in their programs.
Episode YouTube: Video Link
Host Twitter: Ashish Rajan (@hashishrajan)
Guest Socials: Harshil's Linkedin (Harshil Parikh)
Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod
If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels:
Cloud Security Newsletter
- Cloud Security BootCamp
Spotify TimeStamp for Interview Question
(00:00) Introduction
(02:51) Harshil's path into cybersecurity
(04:30) What is code to cloud?
(05:19) What is cloud to code?
(06:29) How was cybersecurity done traditionally?
(08:28) What should CISOs prioritise?
(09:43) How different sectors are impacted?
(10:56) Where should CISOs start?
(12:30) Application vs Cloud vs Product Security
(14:44) Is application security becoming cloud security?
(16:43) What does maturity look like?
(20:18) The fun questions
See you at the next episode!
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CISO Perspective: Josh Lemos, CISO of Gitlab
Josh Lemos former CISO of Block and the current CISO of GitLab comes from a pentester background and made his way to become a CISO. We were lucky enough to interview him during the hacker summer camp on his journey, his experience in AI, takeaway from BH CISO summit and types of CISOs & more. Episode YouTube: Video Link
Host Twitter: Ashish Rajan (@hashishrajan)
Guest Socials: Josh's Linkedin (Josh Lemos)
Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod
If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels:
Cloud Security Newsletter
- Cloud Security BootCamp
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(00:00) Introduction
(01:47) A bit about Josh Lemos
(03:48) What does cloud security mean to Josh?
(04:53) What to look out for with AI/ML?
(07:03) CISO perspective on AI/ML
(08:13) What should a CISO roadmap look like in 2023?
(10:39) Takeaways from BlackHat CISO Summit
(12:24) CISO for B2B vs B2C
(13:43) Hardware vs Software Security
(14:41) Skills needed to become a CISO
(15:48) What is cloud pentesting?
(17:20) Fun Questions
See you at the next episode!
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Data Security RoadMap in 2023
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Episode YouTube: Video Link
Host Twitter: Ashish Rajan (@hashishrajan)
Guest Socials: Yotam's Linkedin (Yotam Segev)
Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod
If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels:
Cloud Security Newsletter
- Cloud Security BootCamp
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(00:00) Introduction
(04:32) Why is data security getting attention?
(05:46) How was data security done before?
(06:43) Cloud native way of managing data
(07:31) What triggers a data security project?
(08:35) At what stage should you start data security?
(10:06) Challenges with starting data security projects
(13:02) What does success look like?
(15:02) Does the CISO own data security?
(16:03) The right skill set for data security
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