
Climate+ | Episode 27 | Mark Chung @ Verdigris
03/06/25 • 29 min
In this thought-provoking episode of Climate+ Podcast, Lincoln engages with Mark Chung, CEO of Verdigris, as they explore the future of artificial intelligence and its pivotal role in addressing the complex challenges of climate change.
Using data center energy management as a jumping-off point, Mark emphasizes that the demand for AI is insatiable, likening it to a new species that cohabits our planet—one that consumes electricity rather than food. As AI continues to evolve, it presents an opportunity to revolutionize how we manage our built environments (like data centers) and mitigate their environmental impact. However, Mark warns that if we fail to navigate this technological advancement carefully, we could jeopardize our own survival.
The conversation takes a deep dive into the intricate relationship between AI, economic prosperity, and sustainable outcomes. Mark suggests that solving the multifaceted problems of our time will require not only technical prowess but also a broader understanding of humanity's place within the ecosystem. He encourages young professionals entering the workforce to cultivate both technical competence and a thoughtful perspective on the ethical implications of technology.
In this thought-provoking episode of Climate+ Podcast, Lincoln engages with Mark Chung, CEO of Verdigris, as they explore the future of artificial intelligence and its pivotal role in addressing the complex challenges of climate change.
Using data center energy management as a jumping-off point, Mark emphasizes that the demand for AI is insatiable, likening it to a new species that cohabits our planet—one that consumes electricity rather than food. As AI continues to evolve, it presents an opportunity to revolutionize how we manage our built environments (like data centers) and mitigate their environmental impact. However, Mark warns that if we fail to navigate this technological advancement carefully, we could jeopardize our own survival.
The conversation takes a deep dive into the intricate relationship between AI, economic prosperity, and sustainable outcomes. Mark suggests that solving the multifaceted problems of our time will require not only technical prowess but also a broader understanding of humanity's place within the ecosystem. He encourages young professionals entering the workforce to cultivate both technical competence and a thoughtful perspective on the ethical implications of technology.
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Climate+ | Episode 26 | Joe Brettell @ Prosody Group
How can we best go from “out of sight, out of mind” to “in sight, in mind” at the intersection of artificial intelligence, energy consumption, and local communities?
Join Climate+ Podcast and expert guest Joe Brettell of Prosody Group to explore the challenges posed by the increasing demand for energy due to AI technologies, the evolving role of utilities, and the need for public-private partnerships to address these issues, including the importance of community relations, job dynamics in renewable energy, and the necessity of a national priority for infrastructure development to maintain competitiveness in the global landscape.
Key Takeaways:
-AI technologies are energy-intensive and impact local communities.
-The fourth industrial revolution is fundamentally changing our way of life.
-Utilities must adapt to increased demand and public scrutiny.
-Community relations are crucial for the success of data centers.
-Job dynamics in renewable energy differ significantly from fossil fuels.
-Investing in education and local communities is essential for long-term benefits.
-Public-private partnerships are key to advancing AI and energy infrastructure.
-National security is tied to maintaining a competitive edge in AI.
-The grid must be modernized to support future technologies.
-A holistic approach is needed to tackle the challenges of AI and energy.
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Climate+ | Episode 28 | Jeremy Shook @ Black & Veatch
Big legacy nukes, small new nukes, and new and seemingly infinite AI – where do we even start to unpack this extraordinary convergence?
In this episode of Climate+, Lincoln Bleveans talks to Jeremy Shook, a principal consultant at power engineering giant Black & Veatch, about the resurgence of nuclear energy in the context of modern demands, particularly fueled by AI. As data centers begin to require unprecedented levels of electricity, the conversation explores how small modular reactors (SMRs) are emerging as innovative solutions to meet these energy needs. Jeremy highlights the significant shifts in the energy sector, emphasizing the importance of understanding the economic drivers and technology options available to clients navigating this new landscape of energy production.
Listeners will gain insight into the convergence of traditional large nuclear power plants with cutting-edge technologies, as Jeremy outlines the commercial industry's roots in naval applications and discusses how these influences shape today's energy strategies. As regulatory mandates push companies toward cleaner energy solutions, the episode provides an informative overview of the opportunities and challenges facing the nuclear sector and the collaboration between various technologies including nuclear, heat pumps, and hydrogen. Tune in to discover how these developments can shape a sustainable energy future amid evolving climate challenges.
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