We ain't afraid of no Ghostty!
12/18/24 • 102 min
Mitchell Hashimoto joins the show to discuss Ghostty, the newest terminal in town. Mitchell co-founded HashiCorp, took it all the way to IPO, exited in 2023—and now he’s working on a terminal emulator called Ghostty. Ghostty is set to 1.0 this month, so we sat down to talk through all the details.
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Featuring:
- Mitchell Hashimoto – Website, GitHub, X
- Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
- Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
Show Notes:
- First episode with Mitchell Hashimoto! Changelog Interviews #72: Vagrant and virtualized environments
- Ghostty 1.0 is Coming and more at Ghostty 👻.
- Zig - Zig is a general-purpose programming language and toolchain for maintaining robust, optimal and reusable software.
- Warp
- Changelog & Friends #53: There’s a TUI for that
- Changelog Interviews #511: The terminal as a platform
- Changelog Interviews #555: Back to the terminal of the future
- Michael Flarup runs Pixel Resort and created the Ghostty icon
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!
Mitchell Hashimoto joins the show to discuss Ghostty, the newest terminal in town. Mitchell co-founded HashiCorp, took it all the way to IPO, exited in 2023—and now he’s working on a terminal emulator called Ghostty. Ghostty is set to 1.0 this month, so we sat down to talk through all the details.
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Sponsors:
- Fly.io – The home of Changelog.com — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. Check out the speedrun to get started in minutes.
- Eight Sleep – Up to $600 off Pod 4 Ultra — Go to eightsleep.com/changelog and use the code CHANGELOG. You can try it for free for 30 days - but we’re confident you will not want to return it (we love ours). Once you experience AI-optimized sleep, you’ll wonder how you ever slept without it. Currently shipping to: United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Europe, and Australia.
- Wix Studio – Wix Sudio is for devs who build websites, sell apps, go headless, or manage clients. Integrate, extend and write custom scripts in a VS code-based IDE. Leverage zero set up dev, test and production environments. Ship faster with an AI code assistant. And work with Wix headless API’s on any tech stack.
- Retool – The low-code platform for developers to build internal tools — Some of the best teams out there trust Retool...Brex, Coinbase, Plaid, Doordash, LegalGenius, Amazon, Allbirds, Peloton, and so many more – the developers at these teams trust Retool as the platform to build their internal tools. Try it free at retool.com/changelog
Featuring:
- Mitchell Hashimoto – Website, GitHub, X
- Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
- Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
Show Notes:
- First episode with Mitchell Hashimoto! Changelog Interviews #72: Vagrant and virtualized environments
- Ghostty 1.0 is Coming and more at Ghostty 👻.
- Zig - Zig is a general-purpose programming language and toolchain for maintaining robust, optimal and reusable software.
- Warp
- Changelog & Friends #53: There’s a TUI for that
- Changelog Interviews #511: The terminal as a platform
- Changelog Interviews #555: Back to the terminal of the future
- Michael Flarup runs Pixel Resort and created the Ghostty icon
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!
Previous Episode
Building the developer cloud
Kurt Mackey is back for a deep dive into what it takes to build the developer cloud. Kurt joins Adam to discuss the alliance between companies and cloud, something Kurt refers to as the “Rebel Alliance,” cloud complexity vs usability, Fly’s future with Postgres and why they’ve waited, thoughts on Neon and Supabase (Kurt shares a hot take), and our CDN saga and plan to build a simple CDN on Fly called Pipely (still a Pipedream).
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- Wix Studio – Wix Sudio is for devs who build websites, sell apps, go headless, or manage clients. Integrate, extend and write custom scripts in a VS code-based IDE. Leverage zero set up dev, test and production environments. Ship faster with an AI code assistant. And work with Wix headless API’s on any tech stack.
Featuring:
Show Notes:
- Founders Talk #80
- Tigris
- Upstash
- Supabase
- Neon
- Retool
- DHH shade on Fly
- Percona
- vantage.sh/cloud-cost-report
- Pipedream
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!
Next Episode
The power of the button
Rachel Plotnick joins us for the first show of 2025 to discuss her book “Power Button” and the research she did, and why we love/hate buttons so much. We also discuss her upcoming book “License to Spill” as well as the research she’s doing on energy drinks.
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- DeleteMe – Text CHANGELOG to 64000 to join DeleteMe. They make it quick, easy, and safe to remove your personal data online.
Featuring:
- Rachel Plotnick – Website, LinkedIn, Bluesky
- Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
- Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
Show Notes:
- RachelPlotnick.com
- Touchscreens Are Out, and Tactile Controls Are Back.
- Power Button
- License To Spill
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!
Changelog Interviews - We ain't afraid of no Ghostty!
Transcript
We're here with Mitchell Hashimoto. Mitchell, it's been literally forever, in literally the sense how Adam says it literally; not how I use it, but how he uses it.
Adam Stacoviak:Oh, gosh...
Jerod Santo:Literally forever. Welcome back, man. Welcome to the show.
Mitchell Hashimoto:Thank you. Yeah, it's been 10 years since the last show, and then the first time, the
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