
The best, worst codebase
09/18/24 • 84 min
Jimmy Miller talks to us about his experience with a legacy codebase at his first job as a programmer. The codebase was massive, with hundreds of thousands of lines of C# and Visual Basic, and a database with over 1,000 columns. Let’s just say Jimmy got into some stuff. There’s even a Gilfoyle involved. This episode is all about his adventures while working there.
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Show Notes:
- The best, worst codebase
- Join our Zulip (It’s better than Slack)
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Jimmy Miller talks to us about his experience with a legacy codebase at his first job as a programmer. The codebase was massive, with hundreds of thousands of lines of C# and Visual Basic, and a database with over 1,000 columns. Let’s just say Jimmy got into some stuff. There’s even a Gilfoyle involved. This episode is all about his adventures while working there.
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- Assembly AI – Turn voice data into summaries with AssemblyAI’s leading Speech AI models. Built by AI experts, their Speech AI models include accurate speech-to-text for voice data (such as calls, virtual meetings, and podcasts), speaker detection, sentiment analysis, chapter detection, PII redaction, and more.
- Supabase – Supabase just finished their 12th launch week! Check it out. Or get a month of Supabase Pro (FREE) by going to supabase.com/changelogpod
- Speakeasy – Production-ready, enterprise-resilient, best-in-class SDKs crafted in minutes. Speakeasy takes care of the entire SDK workflow to save you significant time, delivering SDKs to your customers in minutes with just a few clicks! Create your first SDK for free!
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Featuring:
- Jimmy Miller – Website, GitHub, X
- Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
- Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
Show Notes:
- The best, worst codebase
- Join our Zulip (It’s better than Slack)
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!
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Changelog Interviews - The best, worst codebase
Transcript
So we're joined today by Jimmy Miller, host of the Future of Coding podcast. Jimmy, you wrote the best, worst blog post. It was amazing.
Adam Stacoviak:Ha-ha-ha-ha...
Jimmy Miller:Nice little play on words there. Yeah, I recently wrote a blog post talking about my first job in programming, and it's the best worst codebase I ever worked in. And so yeah, it was a really fun post, and ki
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