
Debating the Role of ALP Normalization in PBC: Curbside Consults Podcast
03/24/25 • 21 min
In this podcast, expert faculty, Dr Stuart Gordon and Dr Nancy Reau, use an illustrative patient case to explore the roles of ALP and other biochemical markers in PBC management, and explain what to expect from treatment. Topics covered include:
- How baseline ALP can affect ALP normalization after second-line treatment with elafibranor and seladelpar
- Potential outcomes if ALP normalization cannot be achieved
- The importance of managing fatigue, pruritus, and sleep disturbances independently of the biochemical response
Presenters:
Stuart C. Gordon, MD
Professor of Medicine
Wayne State University School of Medicine
Director, Division of Hepatology
Henry Ford Health
Detroit, Michigan
Nancy Reau, MD
Professor of Medicine
Richard B. Capps Chair of Hepatology
Chief, Section of Hepatology
Associate Director, Solid Organ Transplantation
Rush University Medical Center
Chicago, Illinois
To learn more about PBC management, check out our program, Curbside Consults: Expert Insights on Challenges in PBC Management.
In this podcast, expert faculty, Dr Stuart Gordon and Dr Nancy Reau, use an illustrative patient case to explore the roles of ALP and other biochemical markers in PBC management, and explain what to expect from treatment. Topics covered include:
- How baseline ALP can affect ALP normalization after second-line treatment with elafibranor and seladelpar
- Potential outcomes if ALP normalization cannot be achieved
- The importance of managing fatigue, pruritus, and sleep disturbances independently of the biochemical response
Presenters:
Stuart C. Gordon, MD
Professor of Medicine
Wayne State University School of Medicine
Director, Division of Hepatology
Henry Ford Health
Detroit, Michigan
Nancy Reau, MD
Professor of Medicine
Richard B. Capps Chair of Hepatology
Chief, Section of Hepatology
Associate Director, Solid Organ Transplantation
Rush University Medical Center
Chicago, Illinois
To learn more about PBC management, check out our program, Curbside Consults: Expert Insights on Challenges in PBC Management.
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Managing PBC Therapy for Patients With Cirrhosis: Curbside Consults Podcast
In this podcast, expert faculty, Dr Stuart Gordon and Dr Nancy Reau discuss an illustrative patient case to demonstrate how they individualize primary biliary cholangitis (PBC) therapy for patients with cirrhosis. Topics covered include:
- AASLD guideline recommendations for second-line therapy for PBC
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Presenters:
Stuart C. Gordon, MD
Professor of Medicine
Wayne State University School of Medicine
Director, Division of Hepatology
Henry Ford Health
Detroit, Michigan
Nancy Reau, MD
Professor of Medicine
Richard B. Capps Chair of Hepatology
Chief, Section of Hepatology
Associate Director, Solid Organ Transplantation
Rush University Medical Center
Chicago, Illinois
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Curbside Consults: Expert Insights on Challenges in PBC Management.
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- Managing symptoms
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- Importance of awareness and education
Presenters:
Gideon Hirschfield, MA, MB BChir, FRCP, PhD
Lily and Terry Horner Chair in Autoimmune Liver Disease Research
Professor, Division of Gastroenterology and Hepatology
University of Toronto
Director, The Autoimmune and Rare Liver Disease Programme
Director, Francis Family Liver Clinic
Toronto General Hospital, University Health Network
Ontario, Canada
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American Liver Foundation
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