Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry
Ted Seides – Allocator and Asset Management Expert

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Mike Trigg – Defying the Fade at WCM (Capital Allocators, EP.162)
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11/02/20 • 58 min
You may remember my popular first meeting from a few years ago with Paul Black of WCM, then a $25 billion asset manager in Laguna Beach, CA. Since then, WCM has gone up and to the right in every way, they sold a minority piece of the business to Natixis, continue to put big numbers on the board, and have grown to north of $66 billion, defying the fade of active management outflows. My guest on today’s show is Mike Trigg, a partner and portfolio manager of WCM’s Focused International Growth strategy that comprises the majority of the firm’s assets. We discuss Mike’s background, arrival at WCM in 2005, near implosion of the firm shortly thereafter, and the rising of the international strategy from those ashes. We then dive in deeper to the core tenants of WCM’s approach, discussing how the firm analyzes widening moats and cultures tied to competitive advantage. Lastly, we talk about how WCM’s growth has impacted the firm.
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11/02/20 • 58 min


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Chris Voss – Listening, Human Nature, and Negotiations (Capital Allocators, EP.252)
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05/30/22 • 43 min
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Chris Voss is the founder of the Black Swan Group, where he works with individuals, teams, and companies in the art of negotiation. Chris is the author of best seller “Never Split the Difference” and learned his trade in his 24 years in the FBI, during which he served as the FBI’s lead international kidnapping negotiator, the lead Crisis Negotiator for the NYC Division, and as a member of the NYC Joint Terrorist Task Force. Our conversation covers techniques in listening and conversation that evolve from Chris’ deep understanding of human nature, including setting the stage, mirroring, labeling, decision fatigue, “no” oriented questions, and overcoming fear. We then turn to preparing for a negotiation, reconciling negatives, and positive demeanor.
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Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
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07/17/23 • 93 min
Seth Klarman is a legendary value investor and CEO and Portfolio Manager of The Baupost Group, an investment firm founded in 1982 that manages $27 billion. Seth authored the very out-of-print Margin of Safety and edited the recently released 7th edition of Graham and Dodd’s value investing classic, Security Analysis. Our conversation covers Seth’s early experience in business and investing, path to Baupost, timeless value investing principles and those that have changed over time. We discuss Baupost’s application of value investing across sourcing, diligence, portfolio construction, and risk management. We then turn to Seth’s thoughts illiquidity, international investing, the weird current environment, positioning portfolios for it, alignment with clients, succession at Baupost, and his updated perspectives on Securities Analysis and Margin of Safety. We close discussing Seth’s personal investments in the Boston Red Sox, horse racing, and philanthropy. Seth generally stays away from the public eye, so I was particularly grateful to share this conversation some twenty-five years after we first met. For full show notes, visit the episode webpage here. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at @tseides or LinkedIn Subscribe to the mailing list Access Transcript with Premium Membership
07/17/23 • 93 min


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The Bet with Buffett (Capital Allocators, EP.05)
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05/02/17 • 70 min
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Today’s show is a little different from my ongoing series of conversations with Capital Allocators. As you probably know, about 91⁄2 years ago I made a bet with a certain Oracle, in Omaha, that pitted the performance of a group of five hedge fund of funds against the S&P 500. In this year’s annual letter to Berkshire Hathaway shareholders, Warren wrote extensively about his views. You can find that letter at www.berkshirehathway.com/letters. Now I haven’t said a lot about the bet, although fairly often I’m asked how it came about, why I made the bet, what I really think about hedge funds and the market, and of course, who's winning. I thought long and hard about whether to share my views publicly, and had been leaning towards staying out of the limelight. But my guest on Episode 2 of this podcast, André Perold, convinced me that I should share the many other investment lessons the public can learn from this exercise. I thought a podcast would be a perfect venue to discuss my thoughts, so I asked my friend Patrick O’Shaughnessy to discuss the bet with me, and that conversation follows. Before we dive in, I thought it might help to let you know where to find answers to some of those common questions I’m asked. For starters, Carol Loomis, the legendary and recently retired Fortune columnist, wrote a wonderful piece called “Buffett’s Big Bet” back in 2008 that described in detail how the bet came to pass. You can find her piece at www.capitalallocatorspodcast.com/bet. On that same page, you can find links to some of my written thoughts – both at the time of the bet’s inception and two years ago. Next week, I’ll add another link with some concluding thoughts.
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05/02/17 • 70 min

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Taimur Hyat – After the Great Lockdown (Capital Allocators, EP.149)
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07/20/20 • 59 min
Taimur Hyat is the Chief Operating Officer at PGIM, a $1.3 trillion asset manager across public equity and fixed income, private credit, real estate and alternative strategies. Alongside President and CEO, David Hunt, Taimur distills insights from across PGIM’s portfolio teams and shares long-term views on the investment implications of global megatrends annually. Their most recent Megatrends piece, After the Great Lockdown, is the subject of our conversation. We cover Taimur’s lessons from academic research in economics, management consulting, and Lehman Brothers through the financial crisis, PGIM’s business, and the Megatrends series. We then turn to the latest Megatrends piece and discuss the impact of the pandemic on supply chains, inventory management, weightless firms, commercial and residential real estate, remote work, and purposeful firms. We close with a discussion of investment opportunities coming out of the pandemic. If you’re as intrigued as I was, you can see all the previous Megatrends reports at pgim.com.
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07/20/20 • 59 min

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Scott Malpass – The Fighting Irish’s Twelfth Man (Capital Allocators, EP.25)
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09/18/17 • 80 min
Scott Malpass is the esteemed Vice President and CIO of Notre Dame, where he oversees the University’s $12 billion endowment. Scott earned his B.A. and M.B.A. degrees at Notre Dame, and returned to South Bend at the ripe age of 26 following a brief stint on Wall Street. His track record for almost 30 years, as defined by both performance and impact, place him indisputably in rare company at the very top of the field.
Among his many accolades, Scott received Institutional Investor’s Endowment Manager of the Year award, NACUBO’s Rodney H. Adams Award, and CIO Magazine’s Lifetime Achievement Award. He has taught students at Notre Dame since 1995 and among other directorships and advisory councils, he serves on the Boards of the Vatican Bank, Vanguard, and TIFF, and previously served on the Investment Advisory Committee for Major League Baseball.
In 2014, Scott became part of the founding group for Catholic Investment Services, Inc., a not-for-profit offering top tier investment solutions to Catholic organizations nationally.
Our conversation is a full-blown master class on endowment management, including the benefits of a long tenured team, asset allocation frameworks, passive management, preparing for dislocations, the state of venture capital, sourcing, monitoring and exiting managers, incremental process improvements, professional and personal development, and education and alignment across constituencies. It’s hard not to be in awe of Scott’s combination of humility, experience, and success.
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Show Notes
3:26 – How Scott got started at Notre Dame
6:22 – Why tenure of the staff is so long on Scott’s team
8:26 – How did he handle bad hires among such a tight knit team
9:37 – Committee makeup
11:18 – How the continuity and depth of institutional knowledge allowed them to make better decisions
12:51 – Their first single asset real estate investment
14:21 – What is the best use of time for the investment team, managing a direct investment or researching new managers
15:07 – Core investment beliefs from Scott’s past that drive the portfolio
17:28 – Core investment beliefs that drive the portfolio today
20:43 – How does Scott think about portfolio construction techniques
22:49 – Factors they like to tilt towards
23:36 – Any concerns about the focus on active managers in a world that is moving towards passive
26:02 – How much of the US investing market should be indexed-based
27:37 – The baseline that Scott has to consider when making investment decisions
29:43 – Their focus on emerging and middle markets, particularly Europe
34:01 – Pricing in the venture capital markets today
36:31 – Implications of all of this new money moving into private market investing
37:40 – Do private equity owners make better decisions for businesses
39:52 – Scott’s manager selection process
41:44 – How much time does Scott spend with managers before making a decision to invest with them
43:14 – Jim Dunn podcast episode
44:04 – What has Scott learned about the behaviors of making that final decision on a manager
45:39 – Mistakes that Scott has learned from and corrected over the years
49:36 – Creative ways to monitor managers in the portfolio
52:08 – Scott sharing how special the managers in the portfolio are to them
54:49 – How would Scott think about an investment portfolio of $1,000,000,000 of cash
56:57 – Benefits and drawbacks of direct vs co-investments
59:43 – Biggest current subject of debate on an investment topic in the office
1:01:47 – Lessons from their annual offsite meetings
1:04:31 – Biggest concerns about the markets today and over the next 10 years
1:07:52 – Closing Questions
09/18/17 • 80 min

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Matthew Granade – Inside Data Science at Point72 (First Meeting, EP.22)
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08/03/20 • 47 min
Matthew Granade is Chief Market Intelligence Officer at Point72 and the Managing Partner of Point72 Ventures. Matthew oversees all proprietary research and data efforts at the firm, manages several of the internal systematic strategies, leads early stage venture investing, and recently launched Hyperscale, a new strategy that invests in AI-driven startups and connects them with operating companies to build model-driven businesses. Before joining Point72, Matthew started his investment career at Bridgewater and later was a co-founder of Domino Data Lab, a business that develops systems-of-record for enterprise data science teams across industries. Our conversation covers Matthew’s work optimizing the research process at Bridgewater, creating Domino Data, and leaving the company to join Point72. We turn to his tackling research and data science at Point72, blending the power of computers and humans, and overseeing Point72 ventures and Hyperscale.
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08/03/20 • 47 min

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Michael Schwimer – Moneyball as an Investment Strategy (Capital Allocators, EP.72)
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10/15/18 • 55 min
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Michael Schwimer is the CEO of Big League Advance, a company that makes investments in Minor League baseball players in exchange for an agreed-upon percentage of their future earnings. Before founding BLA, Michael was a professional baseball player, working his way through the minors and reaching the majors as a pitcher for the Philadelphia Phillies. A shoulder injury left him pondering what to do next, which led to the creation of BLA.
Our conversation discusses Michael’s career as a player, the difficult life of Minor Leaguers, and his mission to improve their fortunes. We discuss his passion for statistics, application of Sabremetrics, and development of a team of All-Stars in the game of sports analytics. We close with a look into the future of BLA and Michael’s prediction for this year’s World Series Champion. Whether his bet proves right or wrong, Michael’s rationale exemplifies second order thinking through the lens of data analytics that is never far from his mind.
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10/15/18 • 55 min

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Morgan Housel – The Psychology of Money (Capital Allocators, EP.155)
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09/07/20 • 63 min
Morgan Housel is a partner at Collaborative Fund and one of my favorite writers about investing. Morgan recently released his first book, The Psychology of Money, and I’ll go on record and predict it will be a best-seller in short order. Our conversation starts with Morgan’s non-traditional education, his path to writing, and his process for writing each week. We then turn to the book and discuss some anecdotes about luck and risk, greed, compounding, patience, and tail events. We close with two of Morgan’s personal stories – one about his own investing and the other, which seems inconceivable as you listen, about his lifelong challenge with stuttering.
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09/07/20 • 63 min

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Annie Duke – Decision Making in a Crisis (Capital Allocators, EP.132)
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04/20/20 • 35 min
My friend Brian Portnoy recently put together a Zoom call where he and Jonathan Novy interviewed Annie Duke about decision making in the crisis.
Brian was a long-time fund investor and has authored two books in the field of behavioral finance. He and I discussed his second book, The Geometry of Wealth, on Episode 57 that follows on the feed. He is currently a financial wellness consultant for advisors, corporations, and industry associations.
Jonathan is a financial advisor at Ritholtz Wealth Management, a prominent and fast-growing RIA.
And Annie is a regular on the show. She’s a poker legend, decision-making theorist and best selling author. And, she’s releasing a new book later this year entitled How To Decide, but that’s subject matter for another show down the road
What follows is the segment of their call pertaining to the crisis. They discuss the difference between complicated and complex decisions, the tradeoff between time and certainty when making decisions, the process of preparing clients to make good investment decisions today, and decision-making education for children.
Please enjoy Brian and Jonathan’s conversation with Annie Duke.
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04/20/20 • 35 min

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