
They Saw the Dark Side of Globalization Twenty Years Ago
11/25/19 • 18 min
In 2019, a global trade war fueled by populist nationalism has raised fears of recession and is forcing businesses to re-think decades-long supply chains. If businesses want to understand this backlash to globalization, they first need to understand it’s been decades in the making. Academics and protesters warned of it in the nineties, culminating in the Battle for Seattle on November 30, 1999. So if the warning of a backlash to globalization was loud and clear twenty years ago, why wasn’t it heeded? And what happens next?
Guests: Rosabeth Moss Kanter, Jia-Ching Chen, Susan Ariel Aaronson, Richard Edelman
Host: Michelle Harven
Written by Keith Schumann with input from T.A. Frank, Miguel Padró, Felicia Davis, and the Business & Society Team.
Recorded by Ben Eyler & Amina Akhtar and edited by Jesse Krinsky.
The Business & Society team wishes to thank the audio technicians and everyone involved in the production of this episode, including:
- Russell Simons
- Craig McDonald
- Kathryn Barnes
- Chiquita Paschal
- Jennifer York
- Michael Bush
- Paige Bloom
Music Samples Featured in this Episode:
Chad Crouch – Algorithms (Excerpted form of the track; used under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 License)
Weightlessness by Daniel Birch (www.danielbirchmusic.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Say It Again, I’m Listening by Daniel Birch (www.danielbirchmusic.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Everywhereby Lee Rosevere (https://leerosevere.bandcamp.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Thought Bubbles by Lee Rosevere (https://leerosevere.bandcamp.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Low Force by Daniel Birch www.danielbirchmusic.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Tobacco Road – Storyblocks Audio
Archival Audio:
https://archive.org/details/ddtv_186_b_showdown_in_seattle
https://archive.org/details/ddtv_186_e_showdown_in_seattle
https://archive.org/details/PeppersprayProductions-IndymediaPresents371ShowdownInSeattleWTOpart2979
In 2019, a global trade war fueled by populist nationalism has raised fears of recession and is forcing businesses to re-think decades-long supply chains. If businesses want to understand this backlash to globalization, they first need to understand it’s been decades in the making. Academics and protesters warned of it in the nineties, culminating in the Battle for Seattle on November 30, 1999. So if the warning of a backlash to globalization was loud and clear twenty years ago, why wasn’t it heeded? And what happens next?
Guests: Rosabeth Moss Kanter, Jia-Ching Chen, Susan Ariel Aaronson, Richard Edelman
Host: Michelle Harven
Written by Keith Schumann with input from T.A. Frank, Miguel Padró, Felicia Davis, and the Business & Society Team.
Recorded by Ben Eyler & Amina Akhtar and edited by Jesse Krinsky.
The Business & Society team wishes to thank the audio technicians and everyone involved in the production of this episode, including:
- Russell Simons
- Craig McDonald
- Kathryn Barnes
- Chiquita Paschal
- Jennifer York
- Michael Bush
- Paige Bloom
Music Samples Featured in this Episode:
Chad Crouch – Algorithms (Excerpted form of the track; used under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 License)
Weightlessness by Daniel Birch (www.danielbirchmusic.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Say It Again, I’m Listening by Daniel Birch (www.danielbirchmusic.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Everywhereby Lee Rosevere (https://leerosevere.bandcamp.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Thought Bubbles by Lee Rosevere (https://leerosevere.bandcamp.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Low Force by Daniel Birch www.danielbirchmusic.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Tobacco Road – Storyblocks Audio
Archival Audio:
https://archive.org/details/ddtv_186_b_showdown_in_seattle
https://archive.org/details/ddtv_186_e_showdown_in_seattle
https://archive.org/details/PeppersprayProductions-IndymediaPresents371ShowdownInSeattleWTOpart2979
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