
Episode 39: Michigan's Secretary of State Sounds off on Democracy
03/01/22 • 20 min
Secretaries of State (SoS) play a key role in preserving election security and access to the ballot. Voters will be casting ballots for their state's SoS in 27 states this year. But, just what is involved in being a SoS? And what should be made of the effort underway to pack these offices with proponents of "the Big Lie"? Lindsay Langholz speaks this week with Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson about the importance of SoS and how listeners can support election integrity in their states. This episode is part of ACS's Run.Vote.Work. initiative, focused on increasing voter education and engagement on down ballot races, including those for Secretary of State.
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Today's Host: Lindsay Langholz, ACS Director of Policy and Programs
Guest: Jocelyn Benson, Michigan Secretary of State
Link: ACS's Run.Vote.Work. Initiative
Link: "Money Pours into State Secretary of State Races," Brennan Center
Link: "State Secretaries of State: Guardians of the Democratic Process," by Jocelyn Benson
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Secretaries of State (SoS) play a key role in preserving election security and access to the ballot. Voters will be casting ballots for their state's SoS in 27 states this year. But, just what is involved in being a SoS? And what should be made of the effort underway to pack these offices with proponents of "the Big Lie"? Lindsay Langholz speaks this week with Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson about the importance of SoS and how listeners can support election integrity in their states. This episode is part of ACS's Run.Vote.Work. initiative, focused on increasing voter education and engagement on down ballot races, including those for Secretary of State.
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Join the Progressive Legal Movement Today: ACSLaw.org
Today's Host: Lindsay Langholz, ACS Director of Policy and Programs
Guest: Jocelyn Benson, Michigan Secretary of State
Link: ACS's Run.Vote.Work. Initiative
Link: "Money Pours into State Secretary of State Races," Brennan Center
Link: "State Secretaries of State: Guardians of the Democratic Process," by Jocelyn Benson
Visit the Podcast Website: Broken Law Podcast
Email the Show: [email protected]
Follow ACS on Social Media: Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | YouTube
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Visit the Podcast Website: Broken Law Podcast
Email the Show: [email protected]
Follow ACS on Social Media: Facebook | Instagram | Bluesky | LinkedIn | YouTube
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Broken Law: About the law, who it serves, and who it doesn’t.
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Production House: Flint Stone Media
Copyright of American Constitution Society 2025.
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Today's Host: Debra Perlin, ACS Director of Policy and Programs
Guest: Stephen Vladeck, Charles Alan Wright Chair in Federal Courts at the University of Texas School of Law
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Broken Law: About the law, who it serves, and who it doesn’t.
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Production House: Flint Stone Media
Copyright of American Constitution Society 2025.
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