"Doors To Grief" Ep. 1: Asteroid City
02/11/25 • 27 min
“In this movie you've got this guy who's, by all accounts, trying really hard to just keep everything together...That ends up being a much more potent thing for communicating this message than something that's more directly trying to address grief.”
- Andrew Clinnin
Hi, Julia Mark here. I'm honored to share the first installment of my Breathing Wind miniseries called “Doors to Grief.” In this episode, I talk with Andrew Clinnin about how Asteroid City—a visually playful Wes Anderson film—became an unexpected lens for understanding his experience as a young widower.
I know today’s guest, Andrew Clinnin through the online grief group he formed via The Dinner Party. Andrew he has created a wonderful space for people in their 20s and 30s who have experienced partner loss. It was a privilege to learn more about his unique journey.
Whether you’ve seen the film or not, this episode offers a fresh perspective on how stories—both on-screen and in our own lives—shape the way we grieve and grow.
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About Andrew Clinnin:
Andrew Clinnin lives in San Francisco, trying to survive outside his natural midwestern habitat. He’s most often spotted mumbling to himself behind his work computer, camera, or sewing machine. Andrew’s wife Ellen was a stage actor and playwright who died in 2022 after two COVID-cursed years with gastric cancer. But she doesn’t want us to remember her by that last bit.
Mentioned in this episode:
Sarah’s conversation with the co-founder of The Dinner Party, Lennon Flowers on Apple Podcasts and Spotify (Season 1, Episode 13)
doesthedogdie.com: a database of categorized content warnings for movies, television shows, books, video games and more!
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“In this movie you've got this guy who's, by all accounts, trying really hard to just keep everything together...That ends up being a much more potent thing for communicating this message than something that's more directly trying to address grief.”
- Andrew Clinnin
Hi, Julia Mark here. I'm honored to share the first installment of my Breathing Wind miniseries called “Doors to Grief.” In this episode, I talk with Andrew Clinnin about how Asteroid City—a visually playful Wes Anderson film—became an unexpected lens for understanding his experience as a young widower.
I know today’s guest, Andrew Clinnin through the online grief group he formed via The Dinner Party. Andrew he has created a wonderful space for people in their 20s and 30s who have experienced partner loss. It was a privilege to learn more about his unique journey.
Whether you’ve seen the film or not, this episode offers a fresh perspective on how stories—both on-screen and in our own lives—shape the way we grieve and grow.
Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Android Devices | RSS
About Andrew Clinnin:
Andrew Clinnin lives in San Francisco, trying to survive outside his natural midwestern habitat. He’s most often spotted mumbling to himself behind his work computer, camera, or sewing machine. Andrew’s wife Ellen was a stage actor and playwright who died in 2022 after two COVID-cursed years with gastric cancer. But she doesn’t want us to remember her by that last bit.
Mentioned in this episode:
Sarah’s conversation with the co-founder of The Dinner Party, Lennon Flowers on Apple Podcasts and Spotify (Season 1, Episode 13)
doesthedogdie.com: a database of categorized content warnings for movies, television shows, books, video games and more!
Like this episode? Show it some love.
Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Leave a rating or review.
Connect with us on social media: Instagram
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This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.breathingwind.com
Previous Episode
A Farewell and a Hello
“We need to stay open to this very natural response to how we experience the big losses changes in our lives. And if we can do that — it doesn’t come at once, it doesn’t come in big ahas — but there there is transformation, and there’s healing and wisdom and creative inspiration and new perspectives. There’s so much that we have access to that we may never be moved by or never encounter if we avoid or shut down our grief.”
~ Naila Francis
In this farewell episode, Sarah and Naila revisit the emotionally rich journey of their podcast, celebrating the support and community that has been built. They share poignant clips from past episodes, including conversations with guests like Benjamin Gunning, Lennon Flowers, and Naila Francis, reflecting on themes of grief, resilience, and creativity. As they pass the torch to new potential host Julia Mark, they discuss their future creative endeavors and express deep gratitude to their listeners. The episode emphasizes the importance of allowing grief to be a shared, evolving conversation.
Show notes
Mentioned in this episode:
Episode 2: Never Alone with Benjamin Gunning
Episode 13: The Space to Be Messy with Lennon Flowers
Naila’s first appearance on the podcast, interviewed by Deborah Szeto
Episode 77: Honoring the Full Range of Grief with Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer
Episode 82: Surfer Dan Fischer is Shaping an Active Grief Memorial through One Last Wave Project
Episode 84: Love is the Mother of Grief with Nnenna Freelon
Episode 68: The Possibility of Pleasure with Oceana Sawyer
Season 2 Trailer: What is Healing?
Season 3 Trailer: What is Joy?
Throwing the Bones with Dr. JoAnne Dodgson
This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.breathingwind.com
Next Episode
"Doors To Grief" Ep. 2: Breathwork
“Your body already knows how to ride the waves. I think we’ve gotten so used to only trusting our minds and not trusting our bodies to do what’s good for them, and I think our body has a deep knowing.”
~ Erin Collins
Hi! Guest host Julia Mark here.
In this second episode of the Doors to Grief miniseries, we hear from the insightful Erin Collins about her journey to becoming a breathwork guide and sound healer.
Erin Collins offers both a scientific and spiritual perspective on how breathwork can be used as a tool for releasing stuck emotions. Our personal stories about navigating grief are woven throughout.
Whether you’re a breathwork enthusiast or wondering (like Erin’s grandfather), “Now, why would you need to teach someone how to breathe??” I hope this episode opens new doors for you.
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About Erin Collins
Erin is a breathwork meditation guide on Vashon Island near Seattle, WA. Through years of training in mental health and certification as a breathwork guide, Erin comes alongside you to provide loving support as you meditate deeply through conscious connected breathwork. Her presence is gentle and supportive, guiding you to self-knowledge, empowerment, and deep healing.
Mentioned in this episode (and related links)
“What Is Breathwork?” (via the Cleveland Clinic)
A style of breathwork called Transformational Breathing
Radical Acceptance as described in Dialectical Behavior Therapy
Article discussing how animals release energy after truama
The Grieving Body (interview with author Dr. Mary-Frances O’Connor)
Research on the power of sound to heal
Exploring anger and grief
The 5 Stages of Death by Elizabeth Kubler-Ross, which was later formed into the concept of “5 Stages of Grief” (which are definitely not linear!)
Other Breathing Wind episodes related to somatic practices and processing emotions:
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