Better Offline CES 2025: Day 3 - Pt. 2
01/09/25 • 94 min
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Welcome to Better Offline’s coverage of the 2025 Consumer Electronics Show - a standup radio station in the Venetian with an attached open bar where reporters, experts and various other characters bring you the stories from the floor. In the second episode,
In this episode Ed Zitron is joined by David Roth of Defector, reporter Edward Ongweso Jr., Ed Niedermeyer of the Autonocast, and tech freelancer Jared Newman to talk about the consequences of spending days at the Consumer Electronics Show, how a show gets away with having so many booths that don’t actually seem to sell things to consumers, and an idea for generative AI that I deeply apologize for.
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Welcome to Better Offline’s coverage of the 2025 Consumer Electronics Show - a standup radio station in the Venetian with an attached open bar where reporters, experts and various other characters bring you the stories from the floor. In the second episode,
In this episode Ed Zitron is joined by David Roth of Defector, reporter Edward Ongweso Jr., Ed Niedermeyer of the Autonocast, and tech freelancer Jared Newman to talk about the consequences of spending days at the Consumer Electronics Show, how a show gets away with having so many booths that don’t actually seem to sell things to consumers, and an idea for generative AI that I deeply apologize for.
David Roth: https://bsky.app/profile/davidjroth.bsky.social
Jared Newman: https://bsky.app/profile/advisorator.com
Ed Ongweso Jr: https://bsky.app/profile/bigblackjacobin.bsky.social
Ed Niedermeyer: https://bsky.app/profile/niedermeyer.io
The Autonocast: https://www.autonocast.com/
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Better Offline CES 2025: Day 3 - Pt. 1
Welcome to Better Offline’s coverage of the 2025 Consumer Electronics Show - a standup radio station in the Venetian with an attached open bar where reporters, experts and various other characters bring you the stories from the floor. In the second episode, Ed Zitron is joined by Jesse Farrar and Michael Hale of Your Kickstarter Sucks, Henry Casey of CNN Underscored, Max Cherney of Reuters, Matt Binder of Mashable, Tom McKay of ITBrew and journalist Ed Ongweso Jr. to talk about trying to find something useful that AI does in a show where everybody uses AI so liberally that it's effectively stopped meaning anything.
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Ed Ongweso Jr: https://bsky.app/profile/bigblackjacobin.bsky.social
Max Cherney: https://www.reuters.com/authors/max-a-cherney/
Matt Binder: https://bsky.app/profile/mattbinder.bsky.social
Henry Casey: https://bsky.app/profile/henrytcasey.net
Tom McKay: https://bsky.app/profile/catturd2.bsky.social
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Better Offline CES 2025: Day 4 - Pt. 1
Welcome to Better Offline’s coverage of the 2025 Consumer Electronics Show - a standup radio station in the Venetian with an attached open bar where reporters, experts and various other characters bring you the stories from the floor.
In Part 1 of our 4th day covering CES, Ed Zitron is joined by Senior Review of Wearable Tech Victoria Song of The Verge, Ed Ongweso Jr, David Roth of Defector and Devindra Hardawar of Engadget to talk about the male-centric coverage of CES, personal nuclear reactors, useful wearables and tech companies that fantasize about making all of our decisions for us.
Victoria Song: https://www.theverge.com/authors/victoria-song
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Ed Ongweso Jr.: https://bsky.app/profile/bigblackjacobin.bsky.social
The Tech Bubble Newsletter: https://thetechbubble.substack.com/
David Roth, Defector: https://bsky.app/profile/davidjroth.bsky.social
Defector: Defector.com
It’s Christmastown Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-christmastown/id1407429849
Devindra Hardawar, Engadget: https://bsky.app/profile/devindra.bsky.social
https://www.engadget.com/about/editors/devindra-hardawar/
Devindra’s coverage of the ASUS Zenbook A14 https://www.engadget.com/computing/laptops/asus-unveiled-the-zenbook-a14-at-ces-2025-and-its-the-macbook-air-competitor-ive-been-dreaming-of-173026277.html
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https://www.funraniumlabs.com/
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Better Offline - Better Offline CES 2025: Day 3 - Pt. 2
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A media scorn by some, hated by all, welcomes a better offline. I'm your host ed Zichron. We are still at the Consumer Electronics Show. Due to events beyond my control. We are recording at like eight pm, which means we're all feeling great, but thankfully, thankfully, we're now joined by David Roth of DEFECTA.
Speaker 2Hi, how's it going?
Speaker 3Yeah, he'
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