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b Cause Work Doesn't Have to Suck - 60: bCause Black Lives Matter

60: bCause Black Lives Matter

06/16/20 • 60 min

b Cause Work Doesn't Have to Suck
Erin and Nicole sit down, in light of the death of George Floyd, to discuss a truly pressing topic; how do we hold institutions and ourselves authentically accountable for basic and supposed inalienable rights, like equality, racial justice, and diversity? Erin and Nicole - while acknowledging the conversations being between two white women of means - reflect on the very nature of racism and recognizing it in ourselves as something as simple as passive indifference, inaction or avoidance. From there, they consider how we all get to a place where black and brown communities, first and foremost, are treated with dignity and value by default. Nicole and Erin take on a tough conversation about centers of power and institutions; which just like corporations need to consider what continuous improvement and systematic change looks like - especially when people's lives depend on it. They also consider the power of incentives and creating places and spaces where people can come together individually and collectively to see each other as people, while recognizing what investing in each other really looks like. And while it may not be that hard in theory, they know that shifting mindset and human behavior long term is very hard to do. But because even a global health crisis, massive economic disruption and global social unrest can't keep Erin's positive energy from flowing, she announces that she has reached a career "bucket list" goal: Being selected to give TEDx Talk on October 10th in New York. Erin and Nicole find humor in the ambiguous process even to apply to TEDx, with Erin ultimately finding that making it a family affair served her authentically to bring her right to the TEDx stage! If you like jammin' with us on the podcast, b sure to join us for more fun and inspiration! Here are some options... Check out the b BRILLIANT career coaching program @ b Cause Podcast Facebook group @ We share even more crazy stuff here (you probably thought that was impossible). Take our simple, fun and insightful "What Kind of Dog Are You At Work?" by going to We have so much fun stuff going on...we wouldn't want you to miss out - join the authenticity movement and our community by adding your email just about anywhere @ Check out our blog for more of our no-BS career advice @ We have fun and inspiring t-shirts @ DISCLAIMER: This episode is not explicit, though contains mild swearing that may be unsuitable for younger audiences. Tweetable Comments: "I feel for the first time in a long time, that I need to have a good honest conversation with myself about the choices I am making, and the kind of citizen that I'm being and how I am rising up diverse people." "It comes down to: how do you spend your money, who do you have at your kitchen table...it's really that simple." "Racism is...passive indifference. Or inaction. It's a form of ignorance. It's not even showing up." "If we're going to hold ourselves to a higher standard, let's actually hold ourselves to a higher standard." "There's no reason why, in this country, people shouldn't have a level of support." "Minority groups have buying power, speaking power, and you need to consider how to gain their trust." "I don't know how to tell anybody to think anything or do anything. But I know I can do things in my own life that allow me to walk around the earth in a more open way." "Everything is amplified. The good is great, and the bad...friggen sucks." "The reason we have a gender diversity issue is because the best talent is opting out, out of fear of compromise." "The only thing that had time to go through my head was "Thank frickin' lord I showered today." "If I'm the selection out of spite, I'll take it."
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Erin and Nicole sit down, in light of the death of George Floyd, to discuss a truly pressing topic; how do we hold institutions and ourselves authentically accountable for basic and supposed inalienable rights, like equality, racial justice, and diversity? Erin and Nicole - while acknowledging the conversations being between two white women of means - reflect on the very nature of racism and recognizing it in ourselves as something as simple as passive indifference, inaction or avoidance. From there, they consider how we all get to a place where black and brown communities, first and foremost, are treated with dignity and value by default. Nicole and Erin take on a tough conversation about centers of power and institutions; which just like corporations need to consider what continuous improvement and systematic change looks like - especially when people's lives depend on it. They also consider the power of incentives and creating places and spaces where people can come together individually and collectively to see each other as people, while recognizing what investing in each other really looks like. And while it may not be that hard in theory, they know that shifting mindset and human behavior long term is very hard to do. But because even a global health crisis, massive economic disruption and global social unrest can't keep Erin's positive energy from flowing, she announces that she has reached a career "bucket list" goal: Being selected to give TEDx Talk on October 10th in New York. Erin and Nicole find humor in the ambiguous process even to apply to TEDx, with Erin ultimately finding that making it a family affair served her authentically to bring her right to the TEDx stage! If you like jammin' with us on the podcast, b sure to join us for more fun and inspiration! Here are some options... Check out the b BRILLIANT career coaching program @ b Cause Podcast Facebook group @ We share even more crazy stuff here (you probably thought that was impossible). Take our simple, fun and insightful "What Kind of Dog Are You At Work?" by going to We have so much fun stuff going on...we wouldn't want you to miss out - join the authenticity movement and our community by adding your email just about anywhere @ Check out our blog for more of our no-BS career advice @ We have fun and inspiring t-shirts @ DISCLAIMER: This episode is not explicit, though contains mild swearing that may be unsuitable for younger audiences. Tweetable Comments: "I feel for the first time in a long time, that I need to have a good honest conversation with myself about the choices I am making, and the kind of citizen that I'm being and how I am rising up diverse people." "It comes down to: how do you spend your money, who do you have at your kitchen table...it's really that simple." "Racism is...passive indifference. Or inaction. It's a form of ignorance. It's not even showing up." "If we're going to hold ourselves to a higher standard, let's actually hold ourselves to a higher standard." "There's no reason why, in this country, people shouldn't have a level of support." "Minority groups have buying power, speaking power, and you need to consider how to gain their trust." "I don't know how to tell anybody to think anything or do anything. But I know I can do things in my own life that allow me to walk around the earth in a more open way." "Everything is amplified. The good is great, and the bad...friggen sucks." "The reason we have a gender diversity issue is because the best talent is opting out, out of fear of compromise." "The only thing that had time to go through my head was "Thank frickin' lord I showered today." "If I'm the selection out of spite, I'll take it."

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undefined - 59: Flattening the Curve on Bullshit

59: Flattening the Curve on Bullshit

If there's one thing we've all learned during these crazy times, it's that our lives were/are full of unnecessary bullshit. Whether it's meetings at work where most people are probably watching cat videos on Youtube or endless personal calendar commitments that weren't serving anyone, now is the time to flatten the curve on the BS in your life. Nicole Licata Grant and Erin Hatzikostas sit down for another catch-up episode, where they discuss communities slowly coming out of quarantine and what this could mean. For example. do we have to all go back to wearing underwear and tidying up in case guests visit? Nicole discusses her promotion and how much response she's gotten from others in the b Cause Facebook community. She talks about how she's sharing her "template" for success that she used to ask for a promotion at work. If you need some guidance, please join the b Cause Facebook group! Nicole also discusses what work-life is like for her right now, including how some important work got deprioritized behind a story on pets in quarantine. Working from home has its perks, but how much are we affected by a lack of human interaction? Do we have the same experience by video, are we losing a big part of our work, or do we just need to find ways to adapt? Most importantly, Nicole and Erin discuss the opportunities we all have to capitalize on the changes we're all faced with. How can we use this time to cut out the things that don't matter? And just as importantly, how can we use this time to leverage the new ways of life (hello, video conferencing?!) Erin and Nicole discuss it all, as well as their ideas for some new business buzzwords that we're likely to all see post COVID. If you like jammin' with us on the podcast, b sure to join us for more fun and inspiration! Here are some options... Check out the b BRILLIANT career coaching program @ b Cause Podcast Facebook group @ We share even more crazy stuff here (you probably thought that was impossible). Take our simple, fun and insightful "What Kind of Dog Are You At Work?" by going to We have so much fun stuff going on...we wouldn't want you to miss out - join the authenticity movement and our community by adding your email just about anywhere @ Check out our blog for more of our no-BS career advice @ We have fun and inspiring t-shirts @ DISCLAIMER: This episode is not explicit, though contains mild swearing that may be unsuitable for younger audiences. Tweetable Comments: "Ok so the world opens today, and I'm supposed to greet it with open arms...and put on shoes and underwear?" "No Food, No Booze, No Blunts." "A lot of the work I do is cyclical, so a lot of my crazy is cyclical too." "What are greetings going to be like? There won't be hugs, there won't be handshakes." "Do we actually have any lessons to teach today?" "You can't say 'I don't get on video'. That's bullshit. think of all the people you could connect with." "You can do everyone!" "Let's use this as an opportunity to cut out some of the bullshit." "We're flattening the curve on meetings." "Talk to the hand, just don't touch it." "There are some meetings that are just bullshit." "Who gets to write the business casual rules for mask-wear?" "You might have meeting fatigue, so get rid of some of what you don't need."

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undefined - 61: The Weight of a Whisper: Erin Interviews Rafat Fields

61: The Weight of a Whisper: Erin Interviews Rafat Fields

Life often whispers at you. If you don't listen, it gets louder and louder. But what if you not only listened, but used it as the thing that powered you to rise to new heights? This week, Erin interviews Rafat Fields, Founder of Powered to Rise. Rafat is a woman small in stature but gigantic in spirit. They discuss everything from her career ups and downs to her son's autism to her journey from obesity to competitive USA weightlifting. Rafat also helps you to see that your personal brand is the key to unlocking success for you and your company. Rafat tells us that she has an addiction to being in control, something that's likely relatable to a lot of us. She talks about a time in her life where she felt a lack of talent or ability, of always trying to live up to standards expected of her (or of herself), and how it had massive negative effects on her mindset and quality of life at work. So, Erin asks her to discuss why she started feeling this way. She discusses her son's autism, how that affected decisions at the time involving work and where to settle. She moves on to discuss her weight, and her journey from being obese to becoming a competitive athlete. They also talk about the power that your own values and personal brand can have on your success within your own company, whether you're the CEO, a sales person, or just about anyone in the company. Finally, Erin and Rafat discuss how she is feeling, as a black woman living in America, in light of recent events. "Exhausted", Rafat replies. Rafat is an incredibly humble and inspiring soul. This is not an episode you want to miss! Follow Rafat @ Facebook: Linkedin: If you like jammin' with us on the podcast, b sure to join us for more fun and inspiration! Here are some options... Check out the b BRILLIANT career coaching program @ b Cause Podcast Facebook group @ We share even more crazy stuff here (you probably thought that was impossible). Take our simple, fun and insightful "What Kind of Dog Are You At Work?" by going to We have so much fun stuff going on...we wouldn't want you to miss out - join the authenticity movement and our community by adding your email just about anywhere @ Check out our blog for more of our no-BS career advice @ We have fun and inspiring t-shirts @ DISCLAIMER: This episode is not explicit, though contains mild swearing that may be unsuitable for younger audiences. Tweetable Comments: "I think what shaped me most in my youth was being an only child." "You had an addiction to being in control." "There's this conditioning and training, that you'll have to work twice as hard, to get half as far." "There was a point where I couldn't think of a single thing I was good at." "Weightlifting in general, I do five or six times a week. And for me it's about breathing, the music I play. Giving myself time to relieve tension." "The soundtrack to my life is 50% Beyoncé, 50% gospel music." "It's not just the values of the organization, it's the values of the leader." " if you want people to connect with your company, tell a story." "Systemic racism is there, but we can't live that emotion every day and still function, so we compartmentalize, we keep moving forward." "I do not see myself as an expert at solving the problem, but I've always been good at building relationships and connecting people." "I think a lot of people see silence as complicit behavior."

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