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09/12/18 • 6 min
I was speaking at a conference of developers and freelancers and presented with this question of meeting face-to-face or everything is virtual.
Being in New York, obviously there are many opportunities to be able to meet people, leads, and potential partners.
When starting out, I did meet lots of leads at coffee shops, their offices, and other places. I’d either get in my car, or hop the train and head on to the location early for the meeting.
NY has traffic and lots of it and the subways have been known to be late from time to time as well, so I always went extra early because I’d rather show up early than be late.
Once there, I’d grab a cup of coffee or drink or whatever for myself and my guest. I especially did this with leads at the first meeting, but would carry that through when they became clients as well.
They would arrive, we’d talk and get to know each other and I would then go ahead and ask whatever questions I needed. Or we would talk about the project tasks and statuses of things. Whatever the purpose of the meeting was.
I’d then hop back into the mode of transportation back home and be on my way with the rest of the day.
Travel time loses profitability
For a one hour meeting, this often times would result in 4 hours of time spent. Between the prep time, travel time, and waiting time, profits literally would fly right out the window.
As I started to notice that an hour spent talking resulted in a half day of actual time, I analyzed that against those meetings that were virtual.
I took into account if they were leads vs clients. And ultimately tracked the time spent and the likelihood of closing the deal.
What I found was that leads that wanted to meet in a coffee shop often would be tire kickers that didn’t result in becoming a client. They were looking to bounce their idea off of me.
Leads that invited me to their office, well they resulted in becoming a client about 65% of the time.
Virtual meetings
Those that I would hold as virtual calls, whether that’s through video or phone, were somewhere in between.
But the virtual conversations I would have took 25% of the time than meeting face-to-face.
I started to key in on the points where I could ask the right questions up front to filter out tire kickers better.
I started to only meet those that had a place in mind to meet me rather than me deciding on a place.
And finally, I would hold kick-off calls when we decided to work together face-to-face.
See the value of the face-to-face can’t be measured to be honest, but it adds to a much higher trust factor that you’ll never get virtually.
Over the course of my career, I honestly haven’t had many local clients, so I when possible, I try and meet face-to-face somehow.
Over time I’ve guarded my time with purpose. I’m only a single person without a sales team. So getting out there and pressing palms as they say, in a sales capacity needs to produce intended results.
For me, it’s unacceptable and hinders the growth of the business to spend a half day to only talk with someone who is looking to get free advice for one hour when they have no intention on paying what I charge.
Lawyers, doctors, and other professionals guard their time, and so I took a page out of their books to do just that.
Most of my meetings now are virtual because I have leads and clients all over the world. That’s not to say though that I don’t meet up with people, I just try and do so as the relationship progresses.
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09/06/18 • 4 min
We’ve all got them right? Even when we are working on client stuff, there are things that we are passionate about, mess around with, even do as a hobby with no real upside to them other than it just makes us happy.
And so I was I was chatting with a friend of mine who has a full-time job and loves it. He asked me, “how do you make time for your side projects?”
I simply replied, “By doing exactly what you said, make time.”
Now we can’t make time and I want to tip my cap to my friend [Curtis](https://curtismchale.ca) for always hitting me on my head with that notion. But he’s right.
How to prioritize your time
What we do though is prioritize time and make room in our every day for the important things.
Time is the only thing we never get back. Once it’s gone, it’s gone. What you do with your time is what you are saying is important to you.
Sure there are times where there are sacrifices to be made and that’s obviously just a way of life. But you can adjust and still cover what you want and need.
Case in point, yesterday at 4 PM I walked out of my office just to grab a drink of water and heard TJ by the front door saying “Daddy, Daddy” as he normally does when he hears me emerge from my office.
I had planned on finishing the day by drafting up a few emails. Which would’ve taken me about 30 more minutes.
My wife said that they were going to go for a walk around the block and asked if I wanted to come.
My answer was simple and quick. “Sure.”
See right there in those few seconds, the priority of the next 30-45 minutes of my day was evaluated and set. Because I do what I do to have the time freedom and flexibility in my schedule to spend time with my family, it was an easy thing to say “yes” to.
Now, what happened to those emails? Well, I woke up a little bit earlier today and wrote them.
So today’s episode is a short one, but I want to leave you with this.
Think about all the things you’ve got going on. All the ideas, projects, and goals you have. Next time you are faced with a choice to make based on the time that you have at the given moment, think about what option aligns with your goals.
Then push the other option aside and if it’s still important enough, create space in your day tomorrow to check it off the list.
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Do I have to be concerned with GDPR?
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05/09/18 • 9 min
As a part of the GDPR, all customers or users will have the right to request the data held on them, the right to have that data deleted if its original purpose has ceased, and the right to have that data transferred to a different provider.
Which means to provide an individual with the right to request, delete, or move their personal data, the individual must be aware that you as a company have the data to begin with. Without their awareness of you using their data, they have no actionable right. So the use of user or customer data through third party providers is likely to become quite complicated.
This would fall under the right-to-be-forgotten laws.
As you can see from the previous 5 sentences alone, there are lots of room for interpretation and questions to be answered. So best to consult your lawyer.
I can’t tell you how to make your business comply with GDPR because there are still so many gray areas (in my opinion) for the EU, that outside of the EU it’s even a darker gray.
What I can tell you is that if you are “doing right” by your email subscribers you are well on your way to being compliant.
What’s “doing right” mean?
It means that:
- you are doing double opt-in
- you are allowing folks to unsubscribe from every email
- if you are sharing email addresses via JV webinars, online summits, partnerships, etc with other businesses, you are sending transitional emails to those subscribers letting them know what you are doing with their email address and giving them an option to opt-out
- you share who else has their data and make sure that you understand (even sign, in some cases) what they are doing with the data. This includes 3rd parties such as Google, Facebook, etc.
- you aren’t selling your email list
In short, you are doing good business with good intentions.
You may also want to update your privacy policy on your website after the conversation with your lawyer.
Further resources:
12 Steps to take now
GDPR Requirements in Plain English
Action Items
- Update your Privacy Policy
- Add a checkbox to any lead magnet form and have the subscriber acknowledge what you intend on doing with their information after the lead magnet delivery
- Find out what else you can do from your own email marketing service
In Drip and ConvertKit, you can segment your list to find those that are within the EU, add in GDPR specific settings into forms, and take actions to comply with the GDPR in other ways.
Here are some other platforms and how they are handling GDPR:
MailChimp
ActiveCampaign
HubSpot
AWeber
Constant Contact
03/01/19 • 7 min
I'm continuing here today with the eleventh and final lesson in the "Finding clients" series.
This is the no-nonsense series of lessons that work in today's market to find clients you want to be working with on a consistent basis.
Group coaching for leads. WHAT?!? 🤔
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You've heard about group coaching before in the context for your business.
I met Lauren Pawell, founder of BixaMedia, a marketing strategy firm, a couple of years ago.
In fact, she was the very first guest on Live In The Feast Season 1 Episode 3.
She inspired this idea of bringing your leads together in one space so that you can then vet the good fit en masse.
Let me explain how this works.
You get a lead as you normally would, but instead of getting on a one-on-one call with them, you get them to an educational webinar.
Get them to sign up and as a group, you run through some educational material for them, provide ridiculous value in a way that allows all the leads to walk away with something beneficial to them.
They also know and understand the type of work that you do, who you help, and if you may be a good fit for them.
Then towards the end of that webinar, you present them with an application for them to be able to work with you.
Lauren shared some of her KPIs that she aims for with registration, attendance, and applications.
The part of this I like the most is that you are spending one hour of time with say 5-10, maybe 20 people and weed out those that aren't a good fit. Rather than one hour with each individual to weed them out.
As a result, you are only spending time on those that raise their hand to want to work with you. But those that don't still walk away with value from you, something that's helpful to them in that moment to move them forward.
Lauren said that of those who fill out the application, she'll close 80% of them.
That's such an amazing use of time.
In fact, she sent me an email just last week that as of January 2nd, she's booked solid for 2019.
The only work that they are taking on is Strategy Sessions.
Since I heard about this idea, I've looked for ways in which I can leverage this in my own business. Because as I said, it's such effective use of time and provides the same amount of value as you would if you continued the sales process as you do today.
A good place to start with this is with past clients. You already know who they are and that you'll want to work with them again.
Remember in lesson 7 we talked about those up level skills? Take the skills that you've learned since working with them and package up something to sell.
Send an email with some registration link and get them all on a call. Practice your delivery and then pitch with that application.
It's as simple as that.
02/20/19 • 4 min
I'm continuing here today with the fourth lesson in the "How to Find Clients" series.
This is the no-nonsense series of lessons that work in today's market to find clients you want to be working with on a consistent basis.
Today's lesson will help you position yourself and share insight into what problems you are solving.
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You are smart and I know that you are constantly learning and evolving your skills and business whether it's on a project you are working on, or in passing as you read articles online when sitting on the couch.
When you come across something new that you've learned, don't hold it back like it's the One Ring. Share that knowledge either in a tweet, Facebook share, or a blog post or video for YouTube even.
When you share your knowledge online, there will be someone who will search for it who doesn't know.
My friend Val Geisler shares teardowns of Saas business' onboarding emails on her blog.
She stated in her 2018 review "I honed my voice and writing skills and got to build a nice little portfolio of spec work while I worked on moving more firmly into this specialization." And she was able to break the 6-figure mark too.
I can also attribute a few clients to one specific article on my site where I break down a number of well-known brands and how they should improve their checkout process. But in there I share how it could be improved as well.
This gives potential clients a sneak peek into what you can do and how you do it.
But it also gives the web the ability to have a piece of content to serve questions like "how do I improve my checkout process?" or "how do I improve my email onboarding sequence?"
By sharing what you know instead of holding it back will position you and your expertise in the world.
Instead of spending a tremendous amount of time figuring out an algorithm on how you can get your profile to outrank other freelancers on a platform, spend that time pushing out a piece of content that gives a sneak peek into your brain.
02/14/19 • 4 min
You are selling a service or product and want to have a system that continuously attracts clients and customers in a predictable way, right?
Can I share with you 11 of my top lessons to do so?
These aren't tips and strategies that are overplayed. These are pretty unique and work amazingly well.
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As you know we are coming up on the magical episode 261 here on Ask Rezzz. And as such, over the next 11 shows I want to share with you 11 of my top "getting clients" lessons.
Thanks to my good friend Mark Asquith for inspiring this series of shows.
Mark, is currently running a series of podcasts on his show The 7-Minute Mentor called 11 Podcasting Lessons To Help You To Become An Audio Influencer in Your Niche.
So how do you get more clients? I thought I'd create a series that does just that.
Over the next 11 episodes, I'm going to share with you my top lessons that are tactful, repeatable, and help you establish yourself as an expert so that you not only clients, but get your clients on a consistent basis to build that pipeline.
There are more freelancers and competition out there in the world than ever before and tactics that you see out there that worked last year, 3 and certainly 5 years ago, just won't work anymore.
Platforms like Upwork and Toptal and others are a race to the bottom. They force you to try and manipulate algorithms and compete with other people on the wrong thing. That's price.
And while these platforms have many companies and opportunities coming to them every single day, those companies are looking for one thing, the cheapest price possible.
What I believe, and with great reason since I did it myself, is that you can build a sustainable business providing services for clients without selling to hundreds and thousands of people.
You certainly do not need to be dropping your prices, racing to the bottom and spend tons of time trying to figure out an algorithm to stand out.
You can build a business that's built around your life and your dreams with a small number of carefully selected clients.
Then you can build a system that continually feeds into your pipeline so that you can build a predictable income.
When I say recurring income, most people, and maybe you as well, think that means providing a monthly service. It's not.
It means that you are selling a service or product that continuously attracts clients and customers in a predictable way.
So that's what I'm going to share with you over the next 11 episodes.
Lessons to build your business with a core type of client and attract those types of clients that you want to have more of.
They are all based on strategies and tactics that have worked for decades in business that I myself still use to this very day that has allowed me to build a profitable and sustainable client services business for close to a decade here in NY.
If you want more, then head on over to rezzz.com and subscribe. No one taught me when I started out, which is why I failed quite often, but I stayed persistent and share with you over at rezzz.com those tips and strategies that work in today's market.
A243 - How to sell strategy?
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02/13/19 • 6 min
First let me say that if you are still working your full-time job or have less than 2 years under your belt as a business owner, this may not be the ideal opportunity for you to try and sell strategy.
Simply because you don't have that experience yet. No doubt you have the skills, but to differentiate yourself as a consultant rather than a developer or designer comes with a proven track record of success.
I'm not saying that you can't sell strategy, in fact, I would suggest selling discovery phases which are strategy sessions of a different sort.
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What I'm saying is that if you want to be a consultant selling strategy to a client, you have to be positioned as an expert in a particular space, understand the hurdles on the track and how to get over them, and most importantly, you have to be sure of certain outcomes of the project.
With that caveat out of the way, let's dive into how to sell strategy
1. Understand the problem
An absolute must to selling strategy is a full understanding of the problem. This means that you have to be able to notice a lead that has this particular problem and then have the solution to that problem.
The most important piece of this is to then connect all the dots in between. You do this by walking through the problem, then the process with milestones attached and then what the dream is on the other side.
2. Your process
The process you use here is important. It needs to illustrate progress to the end goal. The dream of what the client has at the end of the project.
Imagine building a house and as the days and months go by and you don't see the blueprints, plans, permits, foundation being poured, walls going up and so on, you'd no doubt be disappointed.
By explaining during the sales process what the process of getting to the solution will be, you help the client visualize their journey through the strategy and then getting to that implementation.
Illustrating your process will establish that you've been down this road before. Allowing your client to feel that they made the right decision.
3. What's next?
Whether or not you are doing the implementation, that's what will come from your strategy sessions.
To be honest, doing the implementation yourself will further establish you as an expert. You'll simply be able to speak to obstacles that may come up, and you'll be able to fully understand what the next steps in the dream are.
This is the best opportunity to hand off the deliverable as a proposal/contract to your client. Obviously, you've gone through and walked them on every step of the process of the service that is to be implemented, what better person for the job than you, right?
If the strategy and deliverable were outstanding, you should have no problem in closing the deal for the next phase of that project which is the implementation.
02/12/19 • 8 min
Are you providing a solution that allows a potential client to work with you at a lower risk?
Custom work is often times a big ask. It's a big investment for someone to not just pay, but also to spend time on.
Here's why I like having a smaller, more productized option.
- Reduces the risk for the lead
- Reduces the risk for you
- Allows both you and the client to get quick results
This especially works nicely if you are just starting out.
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Are you thinking...
"I would like to have one, but I just don't know what."What this solution could be, starts by listening and observing opportunities.
During a sales conversation simply ask the lead "What would be a quick win for you?"
As you start to hear answers, watch for a pattern. What sort of quick wins are you hearing?
Write them down.
In Ask Rezzz A233 I share with you 3 other questions that you can explore in order to start building out a productized service
In this episode:
- Who will buy my productized service?
- How to do market research for a productized service
- Land that first client
- Are you going to give this a try
There are many more steps in this process, but I wanted to spark some inspiration and direction for you to take if this is something you are considering.
A240 - Why ConvertKit?
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02/08/19 • 15 min
The features of what the application has are exactly what I need for myself and clients.
Yes, I have some [e-commerce clients](https://rezzz.com/services) who may fit better with Drip as their platform, but I have other clients who are non-profits, service-based businesses, coach, and other individuals who are selling only a handful of products that ConvertKit is a perfect fit for.
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I can easily geek out about many things that I like about ConvertKit and some of the ideas that I have, which I dive in head first in this episode
Most certainly I'll be diving into more discoveries and how I'm solving interesting problems as I continue to flex the ConvertKit muscle and boundaries.
If you have any specific questions about my move, ConvertKit, or your business and how ConvertKit may or may not work for you, I'd be happy to chat.
I'll share with you some of what I like and what I'd love to see:
- UI Features
- API + Support
- Feel valued as a customer
- Cleaning up the house
- Handling various integrations
- How I think about and categorize integrations
- ConvertKit excels at
- Sequences and managing those emails within
- Segments
- THE #1 thing...folks get the emails
10/08/18 • 8 min
In business, there is this scenario that gets created during sales that put 2 parties on opposite sides of the table. But the reality of it is that both parties want the same thing. They both want to be successful with the project.
When the objections start popping up, I like to bring this up to them. I simply share something that I’ve said for years and it’s this. “I want to get you where you want to be as efficient as we can together. We are both working towards that same goal and both are successful when that goal is crushed.”
I had a one-hour coaching session with someone (who I got permission to share this on the show) where she wanted to learn more about how to answer objections of clients and get them to commit but in face-to-face conversations and email.
## Need to come into the conversation without bias
The simple reason is that they’re more than likely been here before. Maybe not to the extent or the exact service you are pitching, but the internet is now 20+ years old and no doubt they’ve had their business website up and running before.
When you come into a sales conversation, you should meet the lead where they are, not where you are.
Don’t assume anything.
Don’t assume that they had a great relationship with a past vendor. Don’t assume that they know what it’s like to get a proposal and what to do with it.
Don’t assume they know what the words mean that are coming out of your mouth. Don’t assume that they even have the most basic of information like who they host with on hand.
Which is why it’s so important to get out in front of these questions by way of your project brief or project application. If there is information that you need to better present your solution and you can get that in an online form someplace and allow the lead some time to gather this information, do it.
Be empathic. Don’t make them feel bad by putting them on the spot with a question that they can answer easily given a few minutes of time.
Embrace Objections
Objections are your opportunity in any conversation to connect with the other person, to ultimately solve their problem.
This is where, in the limited time you have here, to build that trust up even further.
So when you start to hear objections or them becoming a bit apprehensive, come from a place of empathy and understand what their concerns are.
Why are they apprehensive and not ready to say “yes” and start the project right now.
What is the ask?
Chris Do, from The Futur worded this best when he said: “Ask them back for clarity.”
What I’ve found to work is to start asking honest, genuine, questions around exactly what it is that the client wants to be done.
You want them to actually use the words they have in their head to explain what it is that they want you to do.
They’ll often say something that is a bit over the top (or as Chris puts it, “ridiculous”).
The idea is to get them to verbalize it because when they do, it’ll hit them, especially as a business owner, that it is just that, ridiculous.
Plain and simple, just get them to state it by asking questions and re-stating back what you hear. And the key part to this, is to ask and shut up. Let them answer and allow them to see that the request may be unreasonable.
## Lower the risk factor
The ridiculousness usually come by way of asking for a lot of service work for a little bit (or no) money.
At that moment, you know they are risk-averse.
It’s now your job to lower that risk. I’ve talked before about how you can lower the risk factor by scaling back and lowering risk is one of the best reasons to niche down your business.
At this moment you want to express your empathy to their situation. If you know they’ve had a difficult time with a previous vendor or it’s a big chunk of money, restate that by saying “I understand and can appreciate your experience with the past developer, but here’s how we are going to mitigate that and why it won’t happen when working with me.”
I would even ask them what happened with the past vendor. Ask them “What happened? What went wrong or what was it that made the project not as successful as it should have been?”
A lot of times, this is easily responded to because you are a professional and don’t flake on your clients, or that you can share with them exactly why that doesn’t happen when working with you.
The big mindset shift you need to make is to look at objections as opportunities. You should get as excited about an objection as you do when someone sends you a referral. Sales is not a “you vs them” scen...
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