
Lillie Heigl On Listening To And Advocating For Disabled Voices
06/20/23 • 71 min
In this week’s episode I sat down with Lillie Heigl. Lillie is an education policy analyst, focusing on disability, at New America, a new kind of think and action tank: a civic platform that connects a research institute, technology lab, solutions network, media hub and public forum. We discuss what it means to her to be disability adjacent, her work in disability advocacy, what it means for her to be a non-disabled person, that has grown up in the disability space, to be working in the disability space, the evolution of learning and listening to disabled voices, and much more.
Follow Lillie: Instagram: @lheigl LinkedIn: Lillie Heigl
Follow New America: Twitter: @NewAmerica LinkedIn: New America Website: https://www.newamerica.org
Follow Me: Instagram: @jill_ilana , @alwayslookingup.podcast Website: https://www.jillianilana.com Email: [email protected]
This episode was edited and produced by Ben Curwin.
In this week’s episode I sat down with Lillie Heigl. Lillie is an education policy analyst, focusing on disability, at New America, a new kind of think and action tank: a civic platform that connects a research institute, technology lab, solutions network, media hub and public forum. We discuss what it means to her to be disability adjacent, her work in disability advocacy, what it means for her to be a non-disabled person, that has grown up in the disability space, to be working in the disability space, the evolution of learning and listening to disabled voices, and much more.
Follow Lillie: Instagram: @lheigl LinkedIn: Lillie Heigl
Follow New America: Twitter: @NewAmerica LinkedIn: New America Website: https://www.newamerica.org
Follow Me: Instagram: @jill_ilana , @alwayslookingup.podcast Website: https://www.jillianilana.com Email: [email protected]
This episode was edited and produced by Ben Curwin.
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To start I would like to issue a trigger warning. In this episode we talk about bullying, sexual harassment and sexual assault. If these are triggers for you please feel free to skip this episode. For context, this conversation was recorded on Thursday, June 15, 2023.
I sat down with Aubrey Smalls. Aubrey is an actor and filmmaker with dwarfism. This episode was recorded a day after Little People of America, LPA, on social media and in an official press release, raised awareness on recent online and in-person bullying events directed towards the little person community. We provide greater context as to what was happening, discuss what those in the little person community, the disabled community at large, and allies can do to protect little people when this behavior occurs, and emphasize that no one and no platform has the right to tell a little person that they do not have the right to feel safe, to exist.
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This episode was edited and produced by Ben Curwin.
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Follow Miriam: Instagram: @miriamhaart Tiktok: @miriamhaart Website: https://www.miriamhaart.com
Follow Me: Instagram: @jill_ilana , @alwayslookingup.podcast Website: https://www.jillianilana.com Email: [email protected]
This episode was edited and produced by Ben Curwin.
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