
You're Not Like Those Other Black People: Confronting Othering feat. Nick Daily
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03/15/22 • 61 min
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This episode is sponsored by Rebecca Minor, LICSW (she/her). For more information about her resource, My Kid Just Came Out: Free Guide for Parents, please visit: https://www.genderspecialist.com/nowwhat/
In this week’s episode, Nick Daily (he/they) shares about what sparked the daily reminders he posts to Instagram to inspire others. Learn about why they’re learning to say “no” and what it means with the nuance of being Black, among their other identities, and practices like not working on their birthday. We also discuss the silliness of people and companies requesting Black History Month and Pride Month events not soon enough. Please request them much, much sooner and not during the actual month! Nick talks about what queer leadership means to him and how he doesn’t believe that our way to freedom and liberation is through the disposability of people.
🎙️ Connect with Nick to learn more about + support their work:
💻 Sources and resources from this episode:
- Camp Pride | Check out this resource I created for more youth, family, and adult LGBTQ+ camps across the US
- D'Loco Kid
- Creating The Black Queer Tarot blog post & @BLKQUEERTAROT + @kendrickdaye on Instagram
- Sonya Renee Taylor
- Mia Mingus
- Intersex Justice Project
- Facts about intersex folks | @pinkmantaray’s Instagram post
- End intersex surgery | @briannavieira’s Instagram post
- We Will Not Cancel Us: And Other Dreams of Transformative Justice | Adrienne Maree Brown
- You Are Your Best Thing: Vulnerability, Shame Resilience, and the Black Experience | Book edited by Tarana Burke and Brené Brown
(Disclaimer: Gender Sexuality Info, LLC may receive a small commission from you purchasing from these two book links, which helps to provide free educational services like this podcast)
Host Charlie Ocean, MSW (they/them), has a background in LGBTQ+ training, community organizing, and technology. Guest episodes feature at least one allyship tip, including tailored questions based on the guests' unique intersecting identities. You can follow Charlie on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Substack. *You will hear Charlie's former name in this episode and previous ones.*
This episode is sponsored by Rebecca Minor, LICSW (she/her). For more information about her resource, My Kid Just Came Out: Free Guide for Parents, please visit: https://www.genderspecialist.com/nowwhat/
In this week’s episode, Nick Daily (he/they) shares about what sparked the daily reminders he posts to Instagram to inspire others. Learn about why they’re learning to say “no” and what it means with the nuance of being Black, among their other identities, and practices like not working on their birthday. We also discuss the silliness of people and companies requesting Black History Month and Pride Month events not soon enough. Please request them much, much sooner and not during the actual month! Nick talks about what queer leadership means to him and how he doesn’t believe that our way to freedom and liberation is through the disposability of people.
🎙️ Connect with Nick to learn more about + support their work:
💻 Sources and resources from this episode:
- Camp Pride | Check out this resource I created for more youth, family, and adult LGBTQ+ camps across the US
- D'Loco Kid
- Creating The Black Queer Tarot blog post & @BLKQUEERTAROT + @kendrickdaye on Instagram
- Sonya Renee Taylor
- Mia Mingus
- Intersex Justice Project
- Facts about intersex folks | @pinkmantaray’s Instagram post
- End intersex surgery | @briannavieira’s Instagram post
- We Will Not Cancel Us: And Other Dreams of Transformative Justice | Adrienne Maree Brown
- You Are Your Best Thing: Vulnerability, Shame Resilience, and the Black Experience | Book edited by Tarana Burke and Brené Brown
(Disclaimer: Gender Sexuality Info, LLC may receive a small commission from you purchasing from these two book links, which helps to provide free educational services like this podcast)
Host Charlie Ocean, MSW (they/them), has a background in LGBTQ+ training, community organizing, and technology. Guest episodes feature at least one allyship tip, including tailored questions based on the guests' unique intersecting identities. You can follow Charlie on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Substack. *You will hear Charlie's former name in this episode and previous ones.*
Previous Episode

Unplugging from the Matrix: Finding Freedom as Trans feat. Trystan Reese
In this week’s episode, Trystan Reese (he/him) shares about his days of being a drag king and how he's been performing as a man since he was a kid. Learn about some of the practices he's adopted to check in with his colleagues so that they're in a continuous feedback loop, including addressing power dynamics and microaggressions. We also discuss a bit of what it's like to be trainers and consultants and the work that goes into it, including figuring out our boundaries and doing the work to know how to facilitate conversations. Trystan talks about how moved he was by Alok's talk on the podcast Man Enough and how well they were able to articulate thoughts that have been circling in his own mind.
🎙️ Connect with Trystan to learn more about + support their work:
- Website
- Collaborate Consulting, LLC
- How We Do Family: From Adoption to Trans Pregnancy, What We Learned about Love and LGBTQ Parenthood - Trystan’s book!
(Disclaimer: Gender Sexuality Info, LLC may receive a small commission from you purchasing from this link, which helps to provide free educational services like this podcast)
💻 Sources and resources from this episode:
- Alok: The Urgent Need for Compassion | The Man Enough Podcast
- Dare to Lead: Brave Work. Tough Conversations. Whole Hearts. - one of Brené Brown’s books
(Disclaimer: Gender Sexuality Info, LLC may receive a small commission from you purchasing from this link, which helps to provide free educational services like this podcast) - ACT UP
- Activism After Stonewall - learn more about the Gay Liberation Front
Host Charlie Ocean, MSW (they/them), has a background in LGBTQ+ training, community organizing, and technology. Guest episodes feature at least one allyship tip, including tailored questions based on the guests' unique intersecting identities. You can follow Charlie on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Substack. *You will hear Charlie's former name in this episode and previous ones.*
Next Episode

Conversation Checkpoint: The Role of a Safety Pause feat. K Strohl
This episode is sponsored by Rebecca Minor, LICSW. For more information about her course, How To Talk To Kids About Gender, please visit: https://www.genderspecialist.com/learn Listeners of this podcast get 10% off with code ALLYSHIP
The Trans Day of Visibility: Nonbinary Visibility panel is now available to watch here: https://youtu.be/mYPQBrBvwrc
In this week’s episode, K Strohl (K's pronouns present day are now they/them) talks about why they freely share their identities and how they want to be centered as a person versus their identities when brought up in conversations. Learn about what a "safety pause" is and some tips on how you may be able to support someone if it comes up in any of your conversations. We also discuss how she has a great practice of sending follow-up emails after networking calls by recalling what was discussed and any next steps. Furthermore, he's amassed a huge list of resources across various topics if folks need more support than he's able to provide related to what came up in the call. Katrina talks about how it feels when people mistake them for an ally of groups they belong to and how they came across the word bisexual thanks to the show A Shot at Love With Tila Tequila, although they're now using queer.
🎙️ Connect with K to learn more about + support their work:
- K’s website
- Absolutely Not! - K’s podcast
💻 Sources and resources from this episode:
- Blair Imani’s Instagram
- A Shot at Love With Tila Tequila | One of Charlie’s favorite contestants on the show was the person in the softball tee in this brief clip
- The National Black Justice Coalition (NBJC) talks about Inviting In
Host Charlie Ocean, MSW (they/them), has a background in LGBTQ+ training, community organizing, and technology. Guest episodes feature at least one allyship tip, including tailored questions based on the guests' unique intersecting identities. You can follow Charlie on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Substack. *You will hear Charlie's former name in this episode and previous ones.*
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