
Coming Out as Trans: When HR Takes That Decision Away feat. Leo Yockey
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11/02/21 • 50 min
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In this week’s episode, Leo Yockey (he/him) shares how his first tech job denied him the opportunity to control his narrative. Learn what surprised him about the experience and hear how it shaped the man he is today. We also discuss the "I'm not gay hug." Are you a fan of Tan France from Queer Eye? Leo talks about how reading Tan's memoir was the inverse of his experience, though it helped him find a man to model himself after.
🎙️ Connect with Leo:
- Leo Yockey's website
- The Leo Yockey Show podcast
- Instagram (now private)
- X (also now private)
💻 Sources and resources from this episode:
- Leo’s Instagram post on being shirtless
- Leo has since taken down his blog post on his tech experience
Host Charlie Ocean, MSW (they/them), has a background in LGBTQ+ training, community organizing, and technology. Guest episodes feature at least one allyship tip, including tailored questions based on the guests' unique intersecting identities. You can follow Charlie on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Substack. *You will hear Charlie's former name in this episode and previous ones.*
In this week’s episode, Leo Yockey (he/him) shares how his first tech job denied him the opportunity to control his narrative. Learn what surprised him about the experience and hear how it shaped the man he is today. We also discuss the "I'm not gay hug." Are you a fan of Tan France from Queer Eye? Leo talks about how reading Tan's memoir was the inverse of his experience, though it helped him find a man to model himself after.
🎙️ Connect with Leo:
- Leo Yockey's website
- The Leo Yockey Show podcast
- Instagram (now private)
- X (also now private)
💻 Sources and resources from this episode:
- Leo’s Instagram post on being shirtless
- Leo has since taken down his blog post on his tech experience
Host Charlie Ocean, MSW (they/them), has a background in LGBTQ+ training, community organizing, and technology. Guest episodes feature at least one allyship tip, including tailored questions based on the guests' unique intersecting identities. You can follow Charlie on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Substack. *You will hear Charlie's former name in this episode and previous ones.*
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From Ohio to NYC: Connecting with Queer Community feat. Laura Graving
In this week’s episode, Laura Graving (she/her) shares about how there are tarot decks that are queer and trans-inclusive. Learn what support she offers folks and what values she founded her small business on. We also discuss why LGBTQ+ folks can feel seen and validated by astrology, tarot, and similar practices. Have you ever used white sage to cleanse a space? She talks about how we can ethically source our white sage and what tips can take those practices to the next level.
🎙️ Connect with Laura and learn more about + support her work:
- Eso Cleric
- Her free PDF on Foundations of Tarot (and to sign up for her email newsletter)
💻 Sources and resources from this episode:
- The Dark Exact - Coleman Stevenson’s tarot deck
- Marcella Kroll - Readings and more
- Campus Pride
Host Charlie Ocean, MSW (they/them), has a background in LGBTQ+ training, community organizing, and technology. Guest episodes feature at least one allyship tip, including tailored questions based on the guests' unique intersecting identities. You can follow Charlie on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Substack. *You will hear Charlie's former name in this episode and previous ones.*
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Reparenting Myself: Exploring Gender as an Adult feat. Dr. Kyl Myers
In this week’s episode, Dr. Kyl Myers (they/them, she/her) shares how their gender creative parenting has evolved over the years and that it can look different for each family. Learn how gender creative parenting gave her an opportunity to check in with herself about her own gender and gender expression. We also discuss some of the questions that you asked on Instagram! Are you trying to support friends in your life who have LGBTQ+ kids? Kyl talks about some of what's helped them, which might sound counterintuitive. We also talk about the emotional labor of internet trolls and some of the pressures of a large following on social media.
🎙️ Connect with Kyl:
- Dr. Myers’s website
- YouTube Channel
- Patreon
- Raising Them book - support small + local business by purchasing from Bookshop.org
(Disclaimer: Gender Sexuality Info, LLC may receive a small commission from you purchasing from this link, which helps to provide free educational services like this podcast)
💻 Sources and resources from this episode:
- Dr. Myers’s Essay in TIME
- TEDx Talk “Want Gender Equality? Let’s Get Creative"
- Raising Zoomer Blog and the post on Sasha and Storm
- Raising Zoomer Instagram (doesn’t use this account anymore, but lots of great info)
Host Charlie Ocean, MSW (they/them), has a background in LGBTQ+ training, community organizing, and technology. Guest episodes feature at least one allyship tip, including tailored questions based on the guests' unique intersecting identities. You can follow Charlie on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Substack. *You will hear Charlie's former name in this episode and previous ones.*
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