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AI + a16z

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Artificial intelligence is changing everything from art to enterprise IT, and a16z is watching all of it with a close eye. This podcast features discussions with leading AI engineers, founders, and experts, as well as our general partners, about where the technology and industry are heading.

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Goodpods has curated a list of the 10 best AI + a16z episodes, ranked by the number of listens and likes each episode have garnered from our listeners. If you are listening to AI + a16z for the first time, there's no better place to start than with one of these standout episodes. If you are a fan of the show, vote for your favorite AI + a16z episode by adding your comments to the episode page.

a16z partners Guido Appenzeller and Matt Bornstein join Derrick Harris to discuss the state of the generative AI market, about 18 months after it really kicked into high gear with the release of ChatGPT — everything from the emergence of powerful open source LLMs to the excitement around AI-generated music.

If there's one major lesson to learn, it's that although we've made some very impressive technological strides and companies are generating meaningful revenue, this is still a a very fluid space. As Matt puts it during the discussion:
"For nearly all AI applications and most model providers, growth is kind of a sawtooth pattern, meaning when there's a big new amazing thing announced, you see very fast growth. And when it's been a while since the last release, growth kind of can flatten off. And you can imagine retention can be all over the place, too . . .

"I think every time we're in a flat period, people start to think, 'Oh, it's mature now, the, the gold rush is over. What happens next?' But then a new spike almost always comes, or at least has over the last 18 months or so. So a lot of this depends on your time horizon, and I think we're still in this period of, like, if you think growth has slowed, wait a month and see it change."

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AI + a16z - The Future of Image Models Is Multimodal
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06/07/24 • 37 min

In this episode, Ideogram CEO Mohammad Norouzi joins a16z General Partner Jennifer Li, as well as Derrick Harris, to share his story of growing up in Iran, helping build influential text-to-image models at Google, and ultimately cofounding and running Ideogram. He also breaks down the differences between transformer models and diffusion models, as well as the transition from researcher to startup CEO.

Here's an excerpt where Mohammad discusses the reaction to the original transformer architecture paper, "Attention Is All You Need," within Google's AI team:
"I think [lead author Asish Vaswani] knew right after the paper was submitted that this is a very important piece of the technology. And he was telling me in the hallway how it works and how much improvement it gives to translation. Translation was a testbed for the transformer paper at the time, and it helped in two ways. One is the speed of training and the other is the quality of translation.

"To be fair, I don't think anybody had a very crystal clear idea of how big this would become. And I guess the interesting thing is, now, it's the founding architecture for computer vision, too, not only for language. And then we also went far beyond language translation as a task, and we are talking about general-purpose assistants and the idea of building general-purpose intelligent machines. And it's really humbling to see how big of a role the transformer is playing into this."

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Investing in Ideogram

Imagen

Denoising Diffusion Probabilistic Models

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In this archive episode from 2015, a16z's Sonal Chokshi, Frank Chen, and Steven Sinofsky discuss DeepMind's breakthrough AlphaGo system, which mastered the ancient Chinese game Go and introduced the public to reinforcement learning.

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In this episode, Inngest cofounder and CEO Tony Holdstock-Brown joins a16z partner Yoko Li, as well as Derrick Harris, to discuss the reality and complexity of running AI agents and other multistep AI workflows in production. Tony also why developer tools for generative AI — and their founders — might look very similar to previous generations of these products, and where there are opportunities for improvement.

Here's a sample of the discussion, where Tony shares some advice for engineers looking to build for AI:
"We almost have two parallel tracks right now as, as engineers. We've got the CPU track in which we're all like, 'Oh yeah, CPU-bound, big O notation. What are we doing on the application-level side?' And then we've got the GPU side, in which people are doing like crazy things in order to make numbers faster, in order to make differentiation better and smoother, in order to do gradient descent in a nicer and more powerful way. The two disciplines right now are working together, but are also very, very, very different from an engineering point of view.

"This is one interesting part to think about for like new engineers, people that are just thinking about what to do if they want to go into the engineering field overall. Do you want to be on the side using AI, in which you take all of these models, do all of this stuff, build the application-level stuff, and chain things together to build products? Or do you want to be on the math side of things, in which you do really low-level things in order to make compilers work better, so that your AI things can run faster and more efficiently? Both are engineering, just completely different applications of it."

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The Modern Transactional Stack

The LLM App Stack

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AI + a16z - The Best Way to Achieve AGI Is to Invent It
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11/04/24 • 38 min

Longtime machine-learning researcher, and University of Washington Professor Emeritus, Pedro Domingos joins a16z General Partner Martin Casado to discuss the state of artificial intelligence, whether we're really on a path toward AGI, and the value of expressing unpopular opinions. It's a very insightful discussion as we head into an era of mainstream AI adoption, and ask big questions about how to ramp up progress and diversify research directions.

Here's an excerpt of Pedro sharing his thoughts on the increasing cost of frontier models and whether that's the right direction:

"if you believe the scaling laws hold and the scaling laws will take us to human-level intelligence, then, hey, it's worth a lot of investment. That's one part, but that may be wrong. The other part, however, is that to do that, we need exploding amounts of compute.

"If if I had to predict what's going to happen, it's that we do not need a trillion dollars to reach AGI at all. So if you spend a trillion dollars reaching AGI, this is a very bad investment."

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The Master Algorithm

2040: A Silicon Valley Satire

The Economic Case for Generative AI and Foundation Models

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AI + a16z - Augmenting Incident Response with LLMs
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07/26/24 • 40 min

In this episode of the AI + a16z podcast, Command Zero cofounder and CTO Dean de Beer joins a16z's Joel de la Garza and Derrick Harris to discuss the benefits of training large language models on security data, as well as the myriad factors product teams need to consider when building on LLMs.

Here's an excerpt of Dean discussing the challenges and concerns around scaling up LLMs:

"Scaling out infrastructure has a lot of limitations: the APIs you're using, tokens, inbound and outbound, the cost associated with that — the nuances of the models, if you will. And not all models are created equal, and they oftentimes are very good for specific use cases and they might not be appropriate for your use case, which is why we tend to use a lot of different models for our use cases . . .

"So your use cases will heavily determine the models that you're going to use. Very quickly, you'll find that you'll be spending more time on the adjacent technologies or infrastructure. So, memory management for models. How do you go beyond the context window for a model? How do you maintain the context of the data, when given back to the model? How do you do entity extraction so that the model understands that there are certain entities that it needs to prioritize when looking at new data? How do you leverage semantic search as something to augment the capabilities of the model and the data that you're ingesting?

"That's where we have found that we spend a lot more of our time today than on the models themselves. We have found a good combination of models that run our use cases; we augment them with those adjacent technologies."

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The Cuckoo's Egg

1995 Citigroup hack

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AI + a16z - Scoping the Enterprise LLM Market
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04/12/24 • 44 min

Naveen Rao, vice president of generative AI at Databricks, joins a16z's Matt Bornstein and Derrick Harris to discuss enterprise usage of LLMs and generative AI. Naveen is particularly knowledgeable about the space, having spent years building AI chips first at Qualcomm and then as the founder of AI chip startup Nervana Systems back in 2014. Intel acquired Nervana in 2016.

After a stint at Intel, Rao re-emerged with MosaicML in 2021. This time, he focused on the software side of things, helping customers train their own LLMs, and also fine-tune foundation models, on top of an optimized tech stack. Databricks acquired Mosaic in July of 2023.

This discussion covers the gamut of generative AI topics — from basic theory to specialized chips — to although we focus on how the enterprise LLM market is shaping up. Naveen also shares his thoughts on why he prefers finally being part of the technology in-crowd, even if it means he can’t escape talking about AI outside of work.

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LLMs at Databricks

Mosaic Research

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AI + a16z - Can AI Agents Finally Fix Customer Support?
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12/18/24 • 44 min

In this episode of the AI + a16z podcast, Decagon cofounder/CEO Jesse Zhang and a16z partner Kimberly Tan discuss how LLMs are reshaping customer support, the strong market demand for AI agents, and how AI agents give startups a a new pricing model to help disrupt incumbents.

Here's an excerpt of Jesse explaining how conversation-based pricing can win over customers who are used to traditional seat-based pricing:

"Our view on this is that, in the past, software is based per seat because it's roughly scaled based on the number of people that can take advantage of the software.

"With most AI agents, the value . . . doesn't really scale in terms of the number of people that are maintaining it; it's just the amount of work output. . . . The pricing that you want to provide has to be a model where the more work you do, the more that gets paid.

"So for us, there's two obvious ways to do that: you can pay per conversation, or you can pay per resolution. One fun learning for us has been that most people have opted into the per-conversation model . . . It just creates a lot more simplicity and predictability.

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"It's a little bit tricky for incumbents if they're trying to launch agents because it just cannibalizes their seat-based model. . . . Incumbents have less risk tolerance, naturally, because they have a ton of customers. And if they're iterating quickly and something doesn't go well, that's a big loss for them. Whereas, younger companies can always iterate a lot faster, and the iteration process just inherently leads to better product. . .

"We always want to pride ourselves on shipping speed, quality of the product, and just how hardcore our team is in terms of delivering things."

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RIP to RPA: The Rise of Intelligent Automation

Big Ideas in Tech for 2025

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In this bonus episode, recorded live at our San Francisco office, security-startup founders Dean De Beer (Command Zero), Kevin Tian (Doppel), and Travis McPeak (Resourcely) share their thoughts on generative AI, as well as their experiences building with LLMs and dealing with LLM-based threats.

Here's a sample of what Dean had to say about the myriad considerations when choosing, and operating, a large language model:

"The more advanced your use case is, the more requirements you have, the more data you attach to it, the more complex your prompts — ll this is going to change your inference time.

"I liken this to perceived waiting time for an elevator. There's data scientists at places like Otis that actually work on that problem. You know, no one wants to wait 45 seconds for an elevator, but taking the stairs will take them half an hour if they're going to the top floor of . . . something. Same thing here: If I can generate an outcome in 90 seconds, it's still too long from the user's perspective, even if them building out and figuring out the data and building that report [would have] took them four hours . . . two days."

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For this holiday weekend (in the United States) episode, we've stitched together two archived episodes from the a16z Podcast, both featuring General Partner Anjney Midha. In the first half, from December, he speaks with Mistral cofounder and CEO Arthur Mensch about the importance of open foundation models, as well as Mistral's approach to building them. In the second half (at 34:40), from February, he speaks with Stanford's Stefano Ermon about the state of the art in video models, including how OpenAI's Sora might work under the hood.

Here's a sample of what Arthur had to say about the debate over how to regulate AI models:

"I think the battle is for the neutrality of the technology. Like a technology, by a sense, is something neutral. You can use it for bad purposes. You can use it for good purposes. If you look at what an LLM does, it's not really different from a programming language. . . .

"So we should regulate the function, the mathematics behind it. But, really, you never use a large language model itself. You always use it in an application, in a way, with a user interface. And so, that's the one thing you want to regulate. And what it means is that companies like us, like foundational model companies, will obviously make the model as controllable as possible so that the applications on top of it can be compliant, can be safe. We'll also build the tools that allow you to measure the compliance and the safety of the application, because that's super useful for the application makers. It's actually needed.

"But there's no point in regulating something that is neutral in itself, that is just a mathematical tool. I think that's the one thing that we've been hammering a lot, which is good, but there's still a lot of effort in making this strong distinction, which is super important to understand what's going on."

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AI + a16z currently has 30 episodes available.

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The podcast is about Venture Capital, Entrepreneurship, Startups, Podcasts, Technology, Business, Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning.

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The episode title 'Building Production Workflows for AI Applications' is the most popular.

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The average episode length on AI + a16z is 41 minutes.

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Episodes of AI + a16z are typically released every 7 days.

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The first episode of AI + a16z was released on Apr 8, 2024.

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