How to charge THOUSANDS for SEO consulting | Eli Schwartz (Product-Led SEO)

05/28/24 • 79 min

How can you land big-name clients like Zendesk, Quora, Wordpress, and Shutterstock? And how can you shift to a better-paying structure as a consultant? Eli Schwartz reveals how coining the term "product-led" SEO and writing a book about it opened doors he never thought possible, why it's a mistake to charge by the hour instead of by the product, and why SEOs should be charging more than $100 per hour. He also discusses his 2024 predictions for Google SGE, ChatGPT as a search engine, and whether guest posts will pass any value in the eyes of Google. In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Introduction and Eli's background (02:15) Going Solo and Creating Product-Led SEO (18:16) Holistic SEO vs Product-Led SEO vs Programmatic SEO (24:42) Accepting Clients and Creating SEO Strategies (35:27) How Long Should Client Engagements Be? (39:39) Outbound Marketing and Client Acquisition (44:44) The Unexpected Success of Writing a Book (48:34) The Potential Impact of Google's SGE (56:39) Will ChatGPT Launch a Search Engne? (58:48) Will Google Announce That Guest Posts Pass No Value? (01:06:29) Does SEO Ever Change? (01:13:46) Company Size and Marketing Attribution Where to find Eli: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwartze X: https://x.com/5le Newsletter: https://productledseo.substack.com/ Website: https://www.elischwartz.co/ Where to find Tim: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timsoulo/ X: https://x.com/timsoulo Website: https://www.timsoulo.com/

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Why 99% of Content is TRASH (And What to do Instead) | Peep Laja (CXL, Wynter)

Is content marketing dead? Peep Laja thinks most of it’s garbage. In this episode, the founder of Wynter and CXL breaks down why today’s B2B content fails, how to create messaging that actually converts, why testing beats guessing, and how to know when it’s time to pivot your business model.

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Where to find Peep:

LinkedIn: (https://www.linkedin.com/in/peeplaja/)

X: @peeplaja

Website: https://peeplaja.com/

Where to find Tim:

LinkedIn: (https://www.linkedin.com/in/timsoulo/)

X: @timsoulo

Website: https://www.timsoulo.com/

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Host: Tim Soulo

Podcast Producer: Michelle Lindner

Intro Storyboard & Video Lead: George Dolgikh

Intro Video Animations: Nikita Sych

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