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Accidental Gods - Be More Hawk!  Being the courage to follow what's right with Rachel Musson of ThoughtBox Education

Be More Hawk! Being the courage to follow what's right with Rachel Musson of ThoughtBox Education

03/19/25 • 73 min

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The old systems are no longer fit for purpose. What does an education system look like that's fit for the twenty-first century - where we put self care, people care, earth care at the heart of what we do?

This week's guest, Rachel Musson, has made it her life's work to fashion ways of learning for all ages that put this Triple Wellbeing principle into action. In everything she does, from leading ThoughtBox Eduction, to creating the Transforming Leadership Course, to writing her glorious, inspiring children's books, to her podcast, Two Inconvenient Women, with her fellow Thoughtboxer Holly Everett, she is being the change we need in the world. At this time where the old is breaking apart and the worst are full of passionate intensity, Rachel is a living example of the fact that the best of us can also be full of passionate intensity and that this can sow seeds of change that ripen into something close to miraculous transformation.

Rachel is a beacon of inspiration and optimism, of how we can connect to the web of life and build networks of mycelial change in our personal and collective lives.

ThoughtBox Education: https://thoughtboxeducation.com/
Transforming Leadership Course: https://thoughtboxeducation.com/leadership
The next online course after recording starts 4th June 2025
Order Story Books https://thoughtboxeducation.com/storykit
Rachel on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-musson/
Rachel and Holly's podcast Two Inconvenient Women https://thoughtboxeducation.com/tiw-podcast
Episode 52 of Accidental Gods https://accidentalgods.life/living-to-learn/

Triple Wellbeing Practitioner Course in London on April 1st 2025 https://thoughtboxeducation.msnd24.com/tracking/lc/a318407c-86a0-4fd3-990e-3614925cc90a/392b9a45-f2f3-44aa-bf90-0afdc15fb732/dfaf176f-fc9c-4809-5698-0c04d852d104/

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The old systems are no longer fit for purpose. What does an education system look like that's fit for the twenty-first century - where we put self care, people care, earth care at the heart of what we do?

This week's guest, Rachel Musson, has made it her life's work to fashion ways of learning for all ages that put this Triple Wellbeing principle into action. In everything she does, from leading ThoughtBox Eduction, to creating the Transforming Leadership Course, to writing her glorious, inspiring children's books, to her podcast, Two Inconvenient Women, with her fellow Thoughtboxer Holly Everett, she is being the change we need in the world. At this time where the old is breaking apart and the worst are full of passionate intensity, Rachel is a living example of the fact that the best of us can also be full of passionate intensity and that this can sow seeds of change that ripen into something close to miraculous transformation.

Rachel is a beacon of inspiration and optimism, of how we can connect to the web of life and build networks of mycelial change in our personal and collective lives.

ThoughtBox Education: https://thoughtboxeducation.com/
Transforming Leadership Course: https://thoughtboxeducation.com/leadership
The next online course after recording starts 4th June 2025
Order Story Books https://thoughtboxeducation.com/storykit
Rachel on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-musson/
Rachel and Holly's podcast Two Inconvenient Women https://thoughtboxeducation.com/tiw-podcast
Episode 52 of Accidental Gods https://accidentalgods.life/living-to-learn/

Triple Wellbeing Practitioner Course in London on April 1st 2025 https://thoughtboxeducation.msnd24.com/tracking/lc/a318407c-86a0-4fd3-990e-3614925cc90a/392b9a45-f2f3-44aa-bf90-0afdc15fb732/dfaf176f-fc9c-4809-5698-0c04d852d104/

If you want to share the journey with us, we're here:
Accidental Gods Gatherings https://accidentalgods.life/gatherings-2025/
Accidental Gods Membership https://accidentalgods.life/join-us/

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undefined - Miraculous Carbon: Celebrating the Book of Life, Death and Potential with author Paul Hawken

Miraculous Carbon: Celebrating the Book of Life, Death and Potential with author Paul Hawken

How do we step past the magical thinking of the elites that says we can either use AI to 'Solve for Climate' - or just ignore the entire climate and ecological emergency completely?

This week's guest, Paul Hawken, has been at the forefront of intelligent responses to the entire meta-crisis for decades. He has been profiled or written in hundreds of articles in the biggest newspapers across the world and has written nine books, six of which have become bestsellers, including Blessed Unrest, Regeneration: Ending the Climate Crisis in One Generation and Drawdown: The Most Comprehensive Plan Ever Proposed to Reverse Global Warming. He’s the founder of both Project Drawdown and Project Regeneration, which is the world’s largest, most complete listing and network of solutions to the climate crisis, describing by agency, what each level of society can do, starting from the individual. If you're in the UK and waiting for Paul's new book to come out in August, then I'd thoroughly recommend you explore Regeneration as a good place to start.

For those of you in the US, Paul's new book comes out on the 18th of March so you can get your pre-orders in now. This book is 'Carbon: The Book of Life' and truly, it's one of those books you'll read in a single sitting and then pass round to your family and friends so they can know the things you now know.

I learned so much in this book: how supernovas are formed, how some really brilliant people worked out the formation of carbon - and one of them was knocked off the Nobel Prize because he began to believe there must be some kind of organising principle behind the formation of life. I learned the horrors of how we are destroying the ecosphere, but I also learned some of the wonders of humanity - how the Mi'kmaq tribe in Canada name large pine trees by the sound of the wind moving through the branches one hour before sunset in October - and then can return decades later and will know if trees have been damaged by comparing their names to the sound they hear. How other tribes in Alaska can predict the weather two years in advance by listening to the patterns in the web of life around them... Truly, this is a beautiful book, beautifully written and it contains within it, the seeds of hope that we speak of often on this podcast - that human creativity and compassion endure and are our gifts to the world.

“Endlessly endlessly fascinating! Human beings, over the millennia, have come up with a thousand ways to carefully observe the world around us, and Paul Hawken has managed to collect and synthesize these observations—from the sweat lodge to the satellite—in a way that helps us see what now must be done. There’s information, and then there’s wisdom—and this book is a compendium of the latter.” BILL MCKIBBEN

Paul's Website https://paulhawken.com/
Paul's LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-hawken-0792b
The link to purchase the book is here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/316928/carbon-by-paul-hawken/
Project Regeneration https://regeneration.org/

If you want to share the journey with us, we're here:
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undefined - Now Then!  Building networks of citizen power with James Lock of Opus in Sheffield

Now Then! Building networks of citizen power with James Lock of Opus in Sheffield

We all know the current system of predatory capitalism is not fit for purpose. We don't (yet) all agree on how to fix it, but for sure, no problem is solved from the mindset that created it. So how do we begin to compost the debris of the failing system to grow something constructive, generative, connected communities that can act as a bridge from where we are towards that future we'd be proud to leave behind?

James Lock is the Co-Founder and Managing Director of Opus Independents Ltd, a not-for-profit social enterprise, working in culture, politics and the arts. Opus works to encourage and support participation, systemic activism and creativity with project strands that include Now Then Magazine & App, Festival of Debate. Opus Distribution, the River Dôn Project and Wordlife.

I met James and other members of Opus in Sheffield last summer when we were all part of the Sheffield Social Enterprise Network summer conference and I was really blown away by their understanding of systemic thinking, by their absolute commitment to total systemic change and by the flexibility of their thinking. Here were people who were taking the concepts that we talk about and making them real, amongst real people in a real place. So we agreed that we'd talk first to James for an overview of what Opus is and does, how the thinking comes together and how we can each take ideas from here and scale them up and out in the places we live. Clearly each city, town, village, street is unique, but some principles are universal and I think we can all learn from the ways James thinks about things as he strives to create the bridges towards a new system.

Links

Opus https://www.weareopus.org/
Festival of Debate https://festivalofdebate.com/
Opus 2024 Report https://www.weareopus.org/opus-annual-report-2024
Opus on LInkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/opusindependents/
Fairness on the 83 https://fairnessonthe83.nowthenmagazine.com/
Citizen Network https://citizen-network.org/
Dark Matter Labs Cornerstone Indicators https://darkmatterlabs.org/initiatives/cornerstone-indicators
Plum Village podcast w Kate Raworth https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/mindful-economics-in-conversation-with-kate-raworth/id1579910767?i=1000669364849

James is Co Founder & Director at Opus

Co Founder of Now Then Magazine

Co Founder of the UBI Lab Network

Co Founder of Festival of Debate

Co Founder of Foundations Earth

Co Founder of The River Don Project

Voluntary Roles:

Social Entrepreneur In Residence at Sheffield Hallam University

Advisory Board Member on SYMCA Local Nature Recovery Strategy

General Secretary of the Independent Media Association

South Yorkshire Social Enterprise Place Steering Group Member

Advisory Board Yorkshire & Humber Office for Data Analytics

If you want to share the journey with us, we're here:
Accidental Gods Gatherings https://accidentalgods.life/gatherings-2025/
Accidental Gods Membership https://accidentalgods.life/join-us/

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