
CRINGE
01/23/23 • 40 min
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Buckle in, listeners, because we’re diving head-first down the rabbit hole of *cringe*. What does cringe look like these days? How do we embrace it—the good kind? How do cut everyone (ourselves included) some cringe slack?
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Today’s prompt: Nell Diamond’s repost of a tweet from @isabelunraveled. (For more on Nell, founder of Hill House Home, dip into these profiles from New York Magazine and Harper’s Bazaar.)
The Justin Long post. Discuss!
For some cringe backstory: Kaitlyn Tiffany’s story “How Did We Get So ‘Cringe’?” for The Atlantic.
We had to revisit Elizabeth Gilbert’s Big Magic—because avoiding cringe and chasing perfectionism are related...no? See also: Ninth Street Women by Mary Gabriel, David Brandon Geeting’s installment of the Perfectly Imperfect newsletter, and the edition of Kaelen Haworth’s Kael Mail newsletter about ins but no outs.
Check out Her Country by Marissa R. Moss. Among the themes: how Kacey Musgraves, Maren Morris, and Mickey Guyton gave up on wanting people to like them to find success.
On finding affection for your younger self: this Anne Helen Petersen newsletter, Jonah Hill’s doc Stutz, the podcast Mortified, Justin Cooley on his role in Kimberly Akimbo, and Mo Willems in the NYT.
A definition of post-cringe; an example of post-cringe: Kaitlin Phillips.
How are you embracing cringe? Who’s your cringe-spiration? We need your thoughts at 833-632-5463, [email protected], or @athingortwohq—or join our Geneva! For a whole lot more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.
Download the free Zocdoc app and book that doctor’s appointment—now’s the time!
Help out your hair with Nutrafol. Take $15 off your first month’s subscription with the code ATHINGORTWO.
YAY.
Produced by Dear Media
Buckle in, listeners, because we’re diving head-first down the rabbit hole of *cringe*. What does cringe look like these days? How do we embrace it—the good kind? How do cut everyone (ourselves included) some cringe slack?
If you’re not getting our newsletter!
Today’s prompt: Nell Diamond’s repost of a tweet from @isabelunraveled. (For more on Nell, founder of Hill House Home, dip into these profiles from New York Magazine and Harper’s Bazaar.)
The Justin Long post. Discuss!
For some cringe backstory: Kaitlyn Tiffany’s story “How Did We Get So ‘Cringe’?” for The Atlantic.
We had to revisit Elizabeth Gilbert’s Big Magic—because avoiding cringe and chasing perfectionism are related...no? See also: Ninth Street Women by Mary Gabriel, David Brandon Geeting’s installment of the Perfectly Imperfect newsletter, and the edition of Kaelen Haworth’s Kael Mail newsletter about ins but no outs.
Check out Her Country by Marissa R. Moss. Among the themes: how Kacey Musgraves, Maren Morris, and Mickey Guyton gave up on wanting people to like them to find success.
On finding affection for your younger self: this Anne Helen Petersen newsletter, Jonah Hill’s doc Stutz, the podcast Mortified, Justin Cooley on his role in Kimberly Akimbo, and Mo Willems in the NYT.
A definition of post-cringe; an example of post-cringe: Kaitlin Phillips.
How are you embracing cringe? Who’s your cringe-spiration? We need your thoughts at 833-632-5463, [email protected], or @athingortwohq—or join our Geneva! For a whole lot more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.
Download the free Zocdoc app and book that doctor’s appointment—now’s the time!
Help out your hair with Nutrafol. Take $15 off your first month’s subscription with the code ATHINGORTWO.
YAY.
Produced by Dear Media
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Winter Beach Chic, Pegboards, and Some Movie-ish Thoughts
We are rejuvenated-ish from our holiday breaks and are ready to fill you in on winter-wedding dress codes, the pegboard discourse, sexy high school, and, ope!, more Midwest updates.
Our discussion about wedding dress codes brings us back to Kayleen Schaefer’s story for The Cut “The Bride and Groom Formally Request That You Dress Up.” And for actual winter beach dressing, see this 2017 Vogue cover and Harrison Ford’s shorts with sweaters.
We loved this 2019 NYT story about how brand names become generic.
Re: pegboards, Julia Child’s is obv the ultimate, but for mini ones, look to Quark and Little Anana.
If you’re also disillusioned by movie trailers, read this Vox story by Alissa Wilkinson. (Also, we endorse She Said the movie...but She Said the book more.)
Next time you're in the Midwest, get kringle from O&H Danish Bakery or a *kringle single* from Racine Danish Kringles.
What foods are you sneaking into the movies? Let us know 833-632-5463, [email protected], or @athingortwohq—or join our Geneva! And try out a Secret Menu membership for a whole lot more recommendations.
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Take care of your hair with Nutrafol. Take $15 off your first month’s subscription with the code ATHINGORTWO.
YAY.
Produced by Dear Media
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The Consumption-Wary Stylist Lakyn Carlton’s Thingies and Scooped-Out Foodstuffs
We’re giving you the styling and Thingies scoop with our special guest Lakyn Carlton! Bonus scoop: the pros and cons of scooped-out foods.
Introducing the scooped-out pizza, c/o Minnesota’s Hazelwood Food & Drink. And leave it to the New York Post to provide scooped-out bagel commentary in 2010 and 2016.
Get more Lakyn via her fantastic newsletter True Style and her virtual and in-person styling sessions.
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