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Claire Mazur & Erica Cerulo

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Gift Guide Round 3: Siblings, Teens, Co-Workers, Friends, and Grandparents!
A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica
11/15/21 • 58 min
Gift Guide Round 3: Siblings, Teens, Co-Workers, Friends, and Grandparents!
Our third gift guide ep already?! We know. There’s so much ahead—and behind if you missed part 1 and part 2—but if you’re still on the present hunt, subscribe to Secret Menu for many more holiday-shopping thoughts ‘n feelings.
Kids and Teens!
Almost 14 year old girl Brooklyn kid
- Art! Ideal Bookshelf 974: Feminists by Jane Mount, The Ten Largest, No. 2, Childhood, Group IV by Hilma af Klint, Krista Marie Young painting, and Amber Vittoria prints
- The start of a charm bracelet, maybe with this Catbird Holy Cannoli charm
- Studs e-gift card
- Lizzie Fortunato Little Candy DIY Kit (for a younger kid: Super Smalls or Susan Alexandra)
- Olive & June mani system
- Dye Kween Sleep mask or socks
- Kule T-shirt
- This Is What I Know About Art by Kimberly Drew
- Macmillan Visual Dictionary
- D C-T! by Joana Avillez and Molly Young
- Donation to Girl Up
- Monogrammed tech accessories from Leatherology
Angsty teenage nephews who already have everything
- Art! Eye Test Chart by George Mayerle, Every Outdoor Basketball Court in Manhattan by Jenny Odell (paired with How to Do Nothing?), or something from Top Posters & Prints
- Via the Public Announcement newsletter: Procure an iPod, load the iPod with music you love, give the iPod to the kid.
- Snacks: Bokksu, Patagonia Provisions, Lani Halliday pop-tarts, Blondery Blondies, or Oreo ID
- Audm subscription
- Courier magazine subscription
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A Butter Sculptor Retires and Kicking Off Oven-Season Baking
A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica
10/25/21 • 47 min
Today, we bring you love and affection for a renowned butter sculptor, complicated feelings about baking, and some pretty sweet recipes for Q4 2021.
The retirement of the Minnesota State Fair butter sculptor, per The StarTribune! Related: the Christopher Guest-ish movie Butter.
Andy Murray and the case of the stolen tennis shoes and wedding ring that were returned.
Dorie Greenspan’s compelling argument for baking in a recent Garden & Gun interview.
Three baking cookbooks Erica loves: The Cake Bible, Cannelle Et Vanille: Nourishing, Gluten-Free Recipes for Every Meal and Mood, and The Four & Twenty Blackbirds Pie Book: Uncommon Recipes.
Some baking recipes we have up our sleeves: Claudia Roden’s Orange and Almond Cake, Julia Turshen’s Afternoon Cake, Smitten Kitchen Strawberry Summer Cake, Yotam Ottolenghi’s Flourless Coconut Cake, Julia Child’s Genoa Almond Cake / Pain de Gênes (page 78 here), Emily Luchetti’s Ginger Cookies (and Emily Luchetti’s Stareos), Ovenly's Salted Peanut Butter Cookies, Dorie Greenspan's 3-Ingredient Almond Crackle Cookies, skillet cookies (with Brutus Bakeshop Miso Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough—or perhaps the Real Simple’s Flourless Chocolate Skillet Cake With Coffee Ice Cream take), NYT’s Mint Chocolate Chip Ice Cream Cake.
Have you made Butter Mochi? Tell us more.
Holiday recipes specifically: NYT's Bourbon Pecan Pie, Lidia Bastianich's Ricotta Cookies, Butter(nut) Balls, Heavenly Hash, Molly Yeh’s Stollen Bars,

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CRINGE
A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica
01/23/23 • 40 min
Buckle in, listeners, because we’re diving head-first down the rabbit hole of *cringe*. What does cringe look like these days? How do we embrace it—the good kind? How do cut everyone (ourselves included) some cringe slack?
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Today’s prompt: Nell Diamond’s repost of a tweet from @isabelunraveled. (For more on Nell, founder of Hill House Home, dip into these profiles from New York Magazine and Harper’s Bazaar.)
The Justin Long post. Discuss!
For some cringe backstory: Kaitlyn Tiffany’s story “How Did We Get So ‘Cringe’?” for The Atlantic.
We had to revisit Elizabeth Gilbert’s Big Magic—because avoiding cringe and chasing perfectionism are related...no? See also: Ninth Street Women by Mary Gabriel, David Brandon Geeting’s installment of the Perfectly Imperfect newsletter, and the edition of Kaelen Haworth’s Kael Mail newsletter about ins but no outs.
Check out Her Country by Marissa R. Moss. Among the themes: how Kacey Musgraves, Maren Morris, and Mickey Guyton gave up on wanting people to like them to find success.
On finding affection for your younger self: this Anne Helen Petersen newsletter, Jonah Hill’s doc Stutz, the podcast Mortified, Justin Cooley on his role in Kimberly Akimbo, and Mo Willems in the NYT.
A definition of post-cringe; an example of post-cringe: Kaitlin Phillips.
How are you embracing cringe? Who’s your cringe-spiration? We need your thoughts at 833-632-5463, [email protected], or @athingortwohq—or join our Geneva! For a whole lot more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.
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Thingies with Laura Stylez (an Icon!!) and Consuming Peripheral Content
A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica
04/11/22 • 49 min
Time for another Thingies ep with a dream guest: We’re graced by Laura Stylez, co-host of the best radio show in all the land, Ebro in the Morning. We talk music, hangover cures, and baby toys—you know how we like a good mix.
Laura’s Thingies: Mombella Mimi Mushroom teether, which both little ones and their parents love, and the ultimate, travel-friendly hangover cure: coconut oil, turmeric, and activated charcoal, all in pill form. On the music front, Rihanna's Anti, Beyonce’s Lemonade and Beyoncé, Kelis's everything, and Lil’ Kim's Hard Core. Laura also recommends God Save the Queens: The Essential History of Women in Hip-Hop by Kathy Iandoli (who also wrote Baby Girl: Better Known as Aaliyah, and Lil’ Kim: The Queen Bee, which is out 2024) and My Voice: A Memoir by Angie Martinez.
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Val Monroe’s Thingies and the Weirdness of Signatures
A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica
02/14/22 • 57 min
Let’s talk about signing your name (hello, strange custom) and dig into Val Monroe’s Thingies! This genius woman—the former beauty director of O, The Oprah Magazine—writes the extremely thoughtful and epically named newsletter How Not to F*ck Up Your Face, and we’re fairly obsessed.
Sign up for Val’s newsletter at valeriemonroe.substack.com immediately. This is the moving installment on Facetiming with her granddaughter.
Val had a bunch of reading (and audiobook-listening) recommendations: the Wolf Hall trilogy by Hilary Mantel, How to Change Your Mind by Michael Pollan, Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl, Astrophysics for People in a Hurry by Neil deGrasse Tyson, Tom Stoppard: A Life by Hermione Lee, Mike Nichols: A Life by Mark Harris (see also: Pictures at a Revolution: Five Movies and the Birth of the New Hollywood by Mark Harris and Rewrites: A Memoir by Neil Simon), The News Sorority by Sheila Weller, The Overstory by Richard Powers, The Hare with Amber Eyes by Edmund de Waal, and All the Light We Cannot See by Anthony Doerr.
For a companion newsletter to Val’s, subscribe to Jessica DeFino’s The Unpublishable.
Beauty-ish things Val raves about: her aminolevulinic acid treatment experience, Colorescience Sunforgettable Total Protection Brush-On Shield SPF 50, the French perfumer Francis Kurkdjian, Laura Geller Baked Foundation, and Tocca Florence Laundry Delicate.
Share your favorite Thingies at 833-632-5463, [email protected], or @athingortwohq. Please!
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Crowd Favorite: Nora McInerny on Supporting People Through the Hard Stuff (and a Gift Idea Too)
A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica
01/02/23 • 59 min
The holidays can be *hard*, and if you need some guidance on figuring out how to show up for the people in your life, Nora McInerny knows what she’s talking about. Fire up this rerun from 2021, and crack open her latest book, Bad Vibes Only, which makes for an excellent way to kick of a strong year of reading.
In case of emergency gifts for grown-ups: consumables (candles, condiments, beauty products!). For babies: Lewis swaddles and Sophies. For kids: Twee chalk, Sunprint Kits, and Omy coloring posters.
Dig into everything Nora McInerny puts out into the world, including the tremendous podcast Terrible, Thanks for Asking and her books It's Okay to Laugh (Crying Is Cool Too), No Happy Endings, and Hot Young Widows Club (and created a Facebook grief support group of the same name).
The NYT piece on the sex educator Justine Ang Fonte and the platinum rule.
The Ring Theory, which we really buy into and talk about a lot!
A Kids Book about Empathy...that’s potentially useful for adults, too.
Friends, this TikTok series from Carly Aquilino on Y2K fashion.
Hit us with your guest noms—or anything else—at 833-632-5463, [email protected], or @athingortwohq. Or join our Geneva! And try out a Secret Menu membership for a whole lot more recommendations.
This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.
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How We're Thinking About Creativity and Shoeless Households
A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica
03/07/22 • 53 min
It’s time for an update on how we’re doing with our (non-work-related) creative practices, and—hey, while we’re at it—we’ll go ahead and share some thoughts on what it's like to live in a shoe household vs. a shoeless one.
Claire’s creative resources: Wendy MacNaughton’s DrawTogether podcast, The Artist's Way (plus this New Yorker interview with the author Julia Cameron), and Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals by Oliver Burkeman.
Erica’s creative resources: Jami Attenberg’s #1000wordsofsummer and Refuse to Be Done: How to Write and Rewrite a Novel in Three Drafts by Matt Bell.
Share your creativity thoughts and feelings (and shoes-in-the-house musings) at 833-632-5463, [email protected], or @athingortwohq.
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Gift Guide Round 1: Moms, Dads, and Significant (or Formerly Significant) Others
A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica
11/08/21 • 56 min
Gift Guide Round 1: Moms, Dads, and Significant (or Formerly Significant) Others
It’s gift-guide season around these parts, and here we are with the first of three—three!—installments to help you along with the hardest-to-shop-for people in your life (hopefully). If you need more ideas, subscribing to Secret Menu might be just the answer.
Moms and Mothers-in-Law!
Single mom by choice to an amazing little girl. Since it's just the two of us and she's a toddler, I need to help her buy her a gift for me. I realize that buying a gift for one's self shouldn't be difficult but I'm saving to buy us a condo and this will be my one quality and/or impractical spend for the foreseeable future. So I want to make it count and I'd love your help. I am willing to spend up to $400.00. I appreciate smart function in design and I have lost zero baby weight, so anything that involves sizing has the potential to make me cry, which feels like it would defeat the purpose. I work about 75 hours a week and am currently doing so remotely. Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks!
- Fused bracelet like a Fewer Finer Eternal Bracelet or an Ochre Objects Permanence one
- Birthstone earrings—maybe one of your birthstone and one of hers. White/Space Francesca studs are sold as solos.
- Earrings/necklace you could build on each year: Scosha charms, Lizzie Fortunato mood necklace with an alphabet charm, and Fewer Finer vintage charms
- Kinn Studio locket
- A break! A one-night staycation or spa day
76 yo mom, super practical, can't throw stuff away, just lost her husband of 60+ years.
- Tidy Tova Virtual Tidiness
- Organizing accessories: Hay, Open Spaces, and Yamazaki Home
- POJ Studio Kintsugi Kit
- Mending kit: Merchant & Mills Rapid Repair Kit and Purl Soho Cotton Mending Thread
- Yuns Hardware gift certificate
- Dims Watering Can + Via Citrus tree
- Monthly flower delivery—you can make any bouquet a subscription with Farmgirl Flowers
- Miriam Toews novel: Fight Night or Women Talking
- Donation to her local library
My new step mom who has very good taste and loves thrifting
- Summersill & Bishop alphabet napkins
- Vintage calendar from 2011, 2005, 1994, 1983, 1977, 1966, 1955, 1949, 1938, or 1927
- Greystone Needlepoint book cover
- Back issues of a favorite magazine—Gourmet?
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Holidays and Giving with Caroline Moss (and the New Illustrated Us!)
A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica
12/06/21 • 57 min
Caroline Moss, host of the podcast Gee Thanks, Just Bought It!, brings joy to everything she does, and we’re jazzed to ride her wave of holiday-giving enthusiasm straight through December and into 2022. Another thing we’re taking into next year is our new mantra: What happens if you don’t?
Julie Houts did the wonderful new illustration of us ya see in our podcast art! You’ve gotta check out her Instagram! Ooh, and shop her prints!
Related content: Erica waiting for Claire in fitting rooms.
If you don’t listen to Caroline’s podcast Gee Thanks, Just Bought It! yet, you’re in for a treat. Our Black Friday ep with her could be a good starting point. Don’t sleep on her gift guides either—or the book she co-wrote Hey Ladies!: The Story of 8 Best Friends, 1 Year, and Way, Way Too Many Emails.
Caroline’s go-to Hallmark holiday movie: The Christmas List.
A few holiday giving initiatives Caroline supports and you can too (like, this year—not at all too late!): Operation Santa (there’s a doc, Dear Santa, about it, even) and Transanta.
Vulture on the Christmas ep of Ted Lasso.
Re: Venmo and taxes, this Forbes piece.
“What Mutual Aid Can Do During a Pandemic” by Jia Tolentino for The New Yorker.
Tell us all of your thoughts! At 833-632-5463, [email protected], or @athingortwohq!
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Content We Feel Great About Right Now
A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica
01/31/22 • 39 min
We’re in need of things to enjoy—no, relish: Bring on the comfort content! Please! If you have recs, share ‘em with us at 833-632-5463, [email protected], or @athingortwohq.
Read more about CUNY’s anonymous cash donor in the New York Times.
Check out Lewis Miller’s Flower Flash book, his Instagram, all of it.
To watch All That Jazz (not on a Delta flight), it’s all about the Criterion Collection.
Listen to Once Upon a Time...at Bennington College podcast for all the hot 1980s undergrad goss about literary icons. (Check out the oral history that inspired the podcast, too.)
Everything Mindy Kailing touches is gold, and we’re especially sweating The Sex Lives of College Girls (what a name).
As for things we’re excited for in the future? Season 2 of Starstruck, Season 2 of White Lotus, and a Marcel the Shell with Shoes On movie!
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A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica currently has 399 episodes available.
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The podcast is about Society & Culture, Podcasts and Arts.
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The episode title 'A Butter Sculptor Retires and Kicking Off Oven-Season Baking' is the most popular.
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The average episode length on A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica is 42 minutes.
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The first episode of A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica was released on Dec 2, 2015.
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