
Presenting: How to Save a Planet
12/22/20 • 48 min
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We're pleased to introduce an episode of "How to Save a Planet," produced by our friends at Gimlet and Spotify. The show is co-hosted by Ayana Elizabeth Johnson and Alex Blumberg.
"How to Save a Planet" has a lot of similarities to our own, so we think our listeners will like the stories they tell. In this week's episode: a story about the Black Lives Matter Movement and how the fight for black lives connects with the struggle for climate justice.
Find more of their episodes here. And stay tuned for our final episode of the season, coming soon.
We're pleased to introduce an episode of "How to Save a Planet," produced by our friends at Gimlet and Spotify. The show is co-hosted by Ayana Elizabeth Johnson and Alex Blumberg.
"How to Save a Planet" has a lot of similarities to our own, so we think our listeners will like the stories they tell. In this week's episode: a story about the Black Lives Matter Movement and how the fight for black lives connects with the struggle for climate justice.
Find more of their episodes here. And stay tuned for our final episode of the season, coming soon.
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The Stages of Black Climate Grief
This week, we have a special episode featuring activist and researcher Nikayla Jefferson.
Most of us are in the first stage of climate grief: denial.
But what does it feel like to enter the stage of grief? And how is that grief different for black people?
Even if you’ve seen the impacts of climate change up close, even if you’ve felt the tropical winds whip your cheeks, stood in floodwater knee deep in your own home, watched a fire come down the ridge line, said “wow, I can’t remember a summer this hot” -- you are likely stuck in some state of denial.
In this episode, Nikayla shares her journey breaking through denial and into grief. She also talks with
As a black person, grieving for the planet can look different, feel heavier and more immediate.
Featured in this episode: Nikayla Jefferson, Jacqueline Patterson, and Princella Talley.
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A Matter of Degrees is a production of Post Script Audio.
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The ‘Darth Vader’ of Electric Utilities
In 2013, a series of attack ads blitzed television sets across Arizona. They warned of a dire threat to senior citizens. Who was the villain? Solar energy.
These ads came from front groups funded by Arizona Public Service, the state’s largest utility. It was part of a years-long fight against rooftop solar that turned ugly.
“I mean, for Star Wars fans, APS became the Darth Vader of electric utilities in America. I mean, I think you would be hard-pressed to find a utility that behaved as badly as APS did in the last decade,” explains former regulator Kris Mayes.
But APS isn’t alone. It’s a prime example of how monopoly utilities abuse their power to influence regulatory decisions and slow clean-energy progress.
What happens if your electric utility starts doing things you don’t agree with? What if they start attacking solar and proposing to build more and more fossil gas plants? What if they actively resist clean energy progress?
Well, you don’t get a choice. You have to buy electricity, and you have to buy it from them. As a customer you’re funding that.
In this episode, we’ll detail how it happened in Arizona -- and how public pressure forced APS’ to come clean.
Featured in this episode: Ryan Randazzo, Kris Mayes, David Pomerantz.
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A Matter of Degrees is a production of Post Script Audio.
For more episodes and transcripts, visit our website.
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