ENCORE Something A-foot in White Sands National Monument with Dr. Shane Miller and Dr. Jesse Tune - Ep 119
08/01/22 • 77 min
1 Listener
ENCORE: Something's afoot. There is, yet again, another controversial preclovis find. This time, away from the West Coast and in New Mexico. The controversy surrounds human footprints found in White Sands National Park that are dated between 23 and 21 kya.
To discuss these possible pre-Clovis footprints, we invited Dr. Jesse Tune and Dr. Shane Miller on the show to contextualize the data. We begin with an open discussion about the recent published report and try to understand what the researches found at the site. We then chat about their controversy, how it’s hit the mainstream media, and what the ramifications of the repaint are for archaeology.
The conversation then turns into a open dialogue about scientific biases, as well as the role of Indigenous oral traditions and their incorporation into scientific theories.
If you have left a review of the podcast on iTunes or Spotify, please email us at [email protected] so we can get shipping information to send you a sticker.
If you are listening to this episode on the "Archaeology Podcast Network All Shows Feed," please consider subscribing to the "A Life in Ruins Podcast" channel to support our show. Listening to and downloading our episodes on the A Life in Ruins channel helps our podcast grow. So please, subscribe to the A Life in Ruins Podcast, hosted by the Archaeology Podcast Network, on whichever platform you are using to listen to us on the "All Shows Feed." Support our show by following our channel.
Literature recommendations
- 2020, Bennett et al., Walking in mud: Remarkable Pleistocene human trackways from White Sands National Park (New Mexico), Quaternary Science Reviews
- 2018 Bustos et al., Footprints preserve terminal Pleistocene hunt? Human-sloth interactions in North America, Supplmentary Materials, Science Advances
- 2021 Rachal et al., Lake levels and trackways: An alternative model to explain the timing of human-megafauna trackway intersections, Tularosa Basin, New Mexico, Quaternary Science Advances
- 2021 Bennett et al., Evidence of humans in North Americaduring the Last Glacial Maximum, Science
- 2020 Ardelean et al., Evidence of human occupation in Mexico around the Last Glacial Maximum, Nature
Links
- Earliest evidence of human activity in the Americas found at White Sands National Park
- Oldest human footprints in North America found
- The White Sands discovery only confirms what Indigenous people have said all along
Contact
- Email: [email protected]
- Instagram: @alifeinruinspodcast
- Facebook: @alifeinruinspodcast
- Twitter: @alifeinruinspod
- Website: www.alifeinruins.com
ENCORE: Something's afoot. There is, yet again, another controversial preclovis find. This time, away from the West Coast and in New Mexico. The controversy surrounds human footprints found in White Sands National Park that are dated between 23 and 21 kya.
To discuss these possible pre-Clovis footprints, we invited Dr. Jesse Tune and Dr. Shane Miller on the show to contextualize the data. We begin with an open discussion about the recent published report and try to understand what the researches found at the site. We then chat about their controversy, how it’s hit the mainstream media, and what the ramifications of the repaint are for archaeology.
The conversation then turns into a open dialogue about scientific biases, as well as the role of Indigenous oral traditions and their incorporation into scientific theories.
If you have left a review of the podcast on iTunes or Spotify, please email us at [email protected] so we can get shipping information to send you a sticker.
If you are listening to this episode on the "Archaeology Podcast Network All Shows Feed," please consider subscribing to the "A Life in Ruins Podcast" channel to support our show. Listening to and downloading our episodes on the A Life in Ruins channel helps our podcast grow. So please, subscribe to the A Life in Ruins Podcast, hosted by the Archaeology Podcast Network, on whichever platform you are using to listen to us on the "All Shows Feed." Support our show by following our channel.
Literature recommendations
- 2020, Bennett et al., Walking in mud: Remarkable Pleistocene human trackways from White Sands National Park (New Mexico), Quaternary Science Reviews
- 2018 Bustos et al., Footprints preserve terminal Pleistocene hunt? Human-sloth interactions in North America, Supplmentary Materials, Science Advances
- 2021 Rachal et al., Lake levels and trackways: An alternative model to explain the timing of human-megafauna trackway intersections, Tularosa Basin, New Mexico, Quaternary Science Advances
- 2021 Bennett et al., Evidence of humans in North Americaduring the Last Glacial Maximum, Science
- 2020 Ardelean et al., Evidence of human occupation in Mexico around the Last Glacial Maximum, Nature
Links
- Earliest evidence of human activity in the Americas found at White Sands National Park
- Oldest human footprints in North America found
- The White Sands discovery only confirms what Indigenous people have said all along
Contact
- Email: [email protected]
- Instagram: @alifeinruinspodcast
- Facebook: @alifeinruinspodcast
- Twitter: @alifeinruinspod
- Website: www.alifeinruins.com
Previous Episode
ENCORE: If a Yoda, Archaeology had: A Philosophical Discussion with our Mentor Dr. Robert L. Kelly - Ep 118
On this episode, we are taking our first vacation. We are going to leave you with a classic episode of ours. Enjoy!
On Episode 27 of A Life in Ruins Podcast, we interview Dr. Robert L. Kelly. Dr. Kelly was all the cohosts thesis advisor at the University of Wyoming. Dr. Robert L. Kelly wrote the book, The Lifeways of Hunter-Gatherers: The Foraging Spectrum, on hunter-gatherer archaeology and the mathematical proofs behind it.
He was involved in early research at Gatecliff Rockshelter and then he continued on to influence archaeological theory for the rest of his career. He writes a regular textbook with Dr. David Hurst Thomas named “Archaeology” (latest edition).
He has also written a book on the future of archaeology called The Fifth Beginning.
We have a super interesting philosophical conversation about archaeology and its meaning. Bob recounts his early life and how he found his way out in the desert with David Hurst Thomas during his first days as an archaeologist.
We then discuss his transition from Cornell to the University of New Mexico and the University of Michigan, and have a lengthy discussion about his mentor, Lewis Binford and his eccentric life.
The majority of the podcast however, is an in-depth conversation about anthropology, how the field has changed over the years, and what it means to be human.
Robert L Kelly Email: [email protected]
Contact
- Email: [email protected]
- Instagram: @alifeinruinspodcast
- Facebook: @alifeinruinspodcast
- Twitter: @alifeinruinspod
- Website: www.alifeinruins.com
- Ruins on APN: https://www.archaeologypodcastnetwork.com/ruins
- Store: https://www.redbubble.com/people/alifeinruins/shop
ArchPodNet
- APN Website: https://www.archpodnet.com
- APN on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/archpodnet
- APN on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/archpodnet
- APN on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/archpodnet
- Tee Public Store
Next Episode
ENCORE: Down Unda' the Sea with Dr. Maddy McAllister - Ep 120
On this episode of A Life in Ruins Podcast, we interview Dr. Maddy McAllister, a maritime archaelogist with the Museum of Tropical Queensland. Dr. McAllister is known for her educational Instagram account, @shipwreckmermaid. As Dr. McAllister is an Aussie, we naturally first have a conversation about the differences between our endemic wildlife and the hazards of working in the wild. This is followed by a discussion of how Dr. McAllister, and other underwater archaeologists, plan out their projects, record data, and conduct their research. We also have some salty discussions of sailing stories, shipwrecks, and other things that blow Connors and Carlton's minds. David was literally born on an island -he gets it.
If you have left a review of the podcast on iTunes or Spotify, please email us at [email protected] so we can get shipping information to send you a sticker.
If you are listening to this episode on the "Archaeology Podcast Network All Shows Feed," please consider subscribing to the "A Life in Ruins Podcast" channel to support our show. Listening to and downloading our episodes on the A Life in Ruins channel helps our podcast grow. So please, subscribe to the A Life in Ruins Podcast, hosted by the Archaeology Podcast Network, on whichever platform you are using to listen to us on the "All Shows Feed." Support our show by following our channel.
Book Recommendations:
• 2005 ‘Beneath the Seven Seas’ (edited by George Bass)
• 1980 Archaeology underwater – Keith Muckleroy
• 2004 Maritime Archaeology: a technical handbook, Jeremy Green
• 1986 Maritime Archaeology in Australia – Graeme Henderson
• 2008 Unfinished Voyages – Graeme Henderson
• 2007 Shipwreck Archaeology in Australia – Mike Nash
Guest Contact
Dr. McAllister's Instagram: @shipwreckmermaid
Dr. McAllister's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/maddy.mcallister.10 and https://www.facebook.com/shipwreckmermaid/
Contact
- Email: [email protected]
- Instagram: @alifeinruinspodcast
- Facebook: @alifeinruinspodcast
- Twitter: @alifeinruinspod
- Website: www.alifeinruins.com
Affiliates
If you like this episode you’ll love
Episode Comments
Generate a badge
Get a badge for your website that links back to this episode
<a href="https://goodpods.com/podcasts/a-life-in-ruins-147833/encore-something-a-foot-in-white-sands-national-monument-with-dr-shane-22392324"> <img src="https://storage.googleapis.com/goodpods-images-bucket/badges/generic-badge-1.svg" alt="listen to encore something a-foot in white sands national monument with dr. shane miller and dr. jesse tune - ep 119 on goodpods" style="width: 225px" /> </a>
Copy